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  • Bluejaysfan65
    MVP
    • Jun 2011
    • 4784

    #646
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
    Not really sure Moises Sierra is an upgrade for them. He'd kind of get stuck in that Maxwell/Martinez^2 OF. What about a pitching prospect like Danny Barnes? Wesley Wright is sadly one of Houston's best trade chips...
    I don't think Danny Barnes are in my rosters. I don't even know who he is lol.
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    • BOSKY!
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      • Aug 2010
      • 319

      #647
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      After testing out a few teams in franchise mode with budgets on, I've found out that loading up on cheap, B's and A's potential players and trading them for studs is more valuable than Free Agency. Visa Versa, trading your veteran or highly priced guys for multiple A's and B's, regardless of position (I almost always trade for pitching, can't have enough) you can quickly build a winner.

      Just started the Twins franchise which I'll play till Knights rosters come out, just made a good trade to dump salary as we're 18 games out.

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      3 A rated SP's from Rays, ie, my future starting rotation.
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      • BBallcoach
        MVP
        • Dec 2012
        • 1524

        #648
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
        You know the "near matching" of trade value is actually a good question, and I think that's the place where human input in this thread can be most valuable. For example, low C = low C is easy enough math to do, but what about in trades with uneven numbers of players, and surely a low-c for mid-c might make sense sometimes. Those gray areas I think is where this feedback is most helpful.

        As for your Johan Santana question, I think it would matter who exactly you were going for, then it could be discussed. But, I'm not sure hi C + hi C could get up to hi B even if you add a D as filler. I feel like the scale gets steeper the closer you get to A territory, imo.

        And some other ideas for rebuilding teams would be Cubs/Marlins/Twins/Pirates/Mariners/Rockies. Each has their own specific (dis)advantages. If you want to have a franchise hitter to start with, the Marlins (Stanton), Pirates (McCutchen), or Rockies (CarGo) might make sense. King Felix (SEA) would be that guy if you wanted a franchise ace. The Twins and Cubs are kind of in limbo right now but also offer some signature players in Mauer or Castro. And it could come down to which farm system you like best. I feel the Astros obviously give the biggest challenge on all fronts!
        Ok Solid B then with a D throw in... Sounds plausible?

        I want a team in total disarray the Stros in AL fit the bill perfectly and the Mets and Miami fit it in the NL, but the problem Miami might be a good one too at least I would have a young stud to build around... But I think I'm going Mets... seems really intriguing.
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        • WaitTilNextYear
          Go Cubs Go
          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #649
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
          I don't think Danny Barnes are in my rosters. I don't even know who he is lol.
          OK, well Danny Barnes is a pitcher who had a nice showing at high A ball Dunedin for the Jays last year after coming on nicely in A ball in 2011. He's a 23-y/o righty out of Princeton with some nasty strikeout stuff who projects to the pen. He's currently ranked the #19 best prospect in the Toronto Blue Jays farm system according to Jonathan Mayo at mlb.com. So, that may have been a slight overpay anyhow.

          But since he's not in your game yet anyway, which he won't be until OSFM; if you want to do that deal now, maybe Brett Cecil would do for Wesley Wright? If you use Cecil, you could probably just swap the lefty reliever Perez you don't want with Wright, as they are approximately equal according to the spreadsheet. Luis Perez is a bit less established but had a nice year last year and he comes a bit cheaper than Wright, which would appeal to HOU. What do the Astros need a relatively expensive lefty specialist for this year anyway other than to trade?
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          • WaitTilNextYear
            Go Cubs Go
            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #650
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by BBallcoach
            Ok Solid B then with a D throw in... Sounds plausible?

            I want a team in total disarray the Stros in AL fit the bill perfectly and the Mets and Miami fit it in the NL, but the problem Miami might be a good one too at least I would have a young stud to build around... But I think I'm going Mets... seems really intriguing.
            Yeah, sounds good man. You could probably get, imo, mid B + low C for Johan I'd guess depending on where you send him. Best destinations for Johan would be a contending team with deep pockets short by one starter. I just figured a hi B might be stretching it just a tad, though the right team might be willing to do that in the right situation i.e. in contention near the trade deadline. Although you might want to pull the trigger on a deal soon because the charade Santana and the Mets are engaging in right now isn't helping his trade value AT ALL!
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            • jjd06e
              Rookie
              • Oct 2008
              • 48

              #651
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              I downloaded a roster with a bunch of prospects named and rated, I was able to complete the following trades with the Tigers

              Omar Infante - 2b - 31 years old - 88 overall - B
              Octavio Dotel - RP - 39 years old - 87 overall - A
              Jordan Lennerton - 1b - 27 years old - 74 overall - B

              for

              Jurickson Profar - SS - 20 years old - 90 overall - A
              Neftali Feliz - RP - 24 years old - 86 overall - A
              Julio Rodriguez - 3B - 74 overall - A

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              • jjd06e
                Rookie
                • Oct 2008
                • 48

                #652
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Also Carl Crawford is someone that if you include in any trade with LAD, you can take them. I did this

                Jhonny Peralta - SS - 75 overall - C - 30 years old

                for

                Joc Pederson - CF - 72 overall - A - 20 years old
                Carl Crawford - LF - 82 overall - B - 31 years old
                Hanley Ramirez - SS - 88 overall - B - 29 years old

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                • BBallcoach
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1524

                  #653
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                  Yeah, sounds good man. You could probably get, imo, mid B + low C for Johan I'd guess depending on where you send him. Best destinations for Johan would be a contending team with deep pockets short by one starter. I just figured a hi B might be stretching it just a tad, though the right team might be willing to do that in the right situation i.e. in contention near the trade deadline. Although you might want to pull the trigger on a deal soon because the charade Santana and the Mets are engaging in right now isn't helping his trade value AT ALL!
                  Yeah I was going to shop Santana during the spring, and see what wright is doing in july. Never been a big David Wright guy. But he just signed a new deal... So I don't think it's realistic to trade him this year.
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                  • Bluejaysfan65
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 4784

                    #654
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                    OK, well Danny Barnes is a pitcher who had a nice showing at high A ball Dunedin for the Jays last year after coming on nicely in A ball in 2011. He's a 23-y/o righty out of Princeton with some nasty strikeout stuff who projects to the pen. He's currently ranked the #19 best prospect in the Toronto Blue Jays farm system according to Jonathan Mayo at mlb.com. So, that may have been a slight overpay anyhow.

                    But since he's not in your game yet anyway, which he won't be until OSFM; if you want to do that deal now, maybe Brett Cecil would do for Wesley Wright? If you use Cecil, you could probably just swap the lefty reliever Perez you don't want with Wright, as they are approximately equal according to the spreadsheet. Luis Perez is a bit less established but had a nice year last year and he comes a bit cheaper than Wright, which would appeal to HOU. What do the Astros need a relatively expensive lefty specialist for this year anyway other than to trade?
                    I have the OSFM Opening Day rosters since I'm still playing my MLB 12 The Show franchise and Danny Barnes isn't there. Anyways so Luis Perez for Wesley Wright is good???
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                    • AC
                      Win the East
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14951

                      #655
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                      OK, well Danny Barnes is a pitcher who had a nice showing at high A ball Dunedin for the Jays last year after coming on nicely in A ball in 2011. He's a 23-y/o righty out of Princeton with some nasty strikeout stuff who projects to the pen. He's currently ranked the #19 best prospect in the Toronto Blue Jays farm system according to Jonathan Mayo at mlb.com. So, that may have been a slight overpay anyhow.
                      TL;DR he's a solid relief prospect putting up great numbers with a weak arm but great command that you should probably know about and is worth more than Wesley Wright

                      Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
                      I have the OSFM Opening Day rosters since I'm still playing my MLB 12 The Show franchise and Danny Barnes isn't there. Anyways so Luis Perez for Wesley Wright is good???
                      Pretty sure he said that opposite of that but give them Ryan Goins and be done with it
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                      • Marino
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 18113

                        #656
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by jjd06e
                        Also Carl Crawford is someone that if you include in any trade with LAD, you can take them. I did this

                        Jhonny Peralta - SS - 75 overall - C - 30 years old

                        for

                        Joc Pederson - CF - 72 overall - A - 20 years old
                        Carl Crawford - LF - 82 overall - B - 31 years old
                        Hanley Ramirez - SS - 88 overall - B - 29 years old
                        Dodgers would laugh at that trade. That is a horrible trade.

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                        • TheNumber35
                          Just Bad at Everything
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2708

                          #657
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Marino
                          Dodgers would laugh at that trade. That is a horrible trade.
                          I try so hard to avoid replying to trades like that one...and I think many of the more respected posters in this thread try to just ignore those ones as well.
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                          • MattGarza13
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 438

                            #658
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by ACMilan99
                            Realistic, not fair



                            Gotta give much more than that tbh

                            Alright, what else would I have to add besides Alex Meyer, Max Kepler, Joe Benson, and Travis Harrsion to get Jemile Weeks and Brett Anderson?

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                            • jcabler24
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 141

                              #659
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Playing as the Pirates, and looking to acquire one of Oaklands young SP in either AJ Griffin or Tom Millone, since the A's have no problem dealing for more youth.

                              Could I REALISTICALLY get one of theses guys by avoiding trading Cole or Taillon?

                              Could Kyle McPherson/Andrew Oliver/Nick Kingham be the central piece of the puzzle, or do I need to think bigger?
                              Last edited by jcabler24; 03-13-2013, 11:31 AM.
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                              • hradekbr
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 245

                                #660
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by MattGarza13
                                Alright, what else would I have to add besides Alex Meyer, Max Kepler, Joe Benson, and Travis Harrsion to get Jemile Weeks and Brett Anderson?
                                I'd think Meyer and Benson are pretty close to what Anderson would be worth, Weeks is kind of a toss up.

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