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  • rjackson
    MVP
    • Apr 2005
    • 1661

    #7951
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    CWS should accept the Starlin for Alexei deal I would hope, assuming he can play SS? I am not sure if STL would agree to that though, tbh.

    On Norris, check his service time--arb eligibles show up as "1/1" in the contract columns in the game.

    PS It would have been CMart and who knows what for Peavy and Alexei--you might be able to work off of that. CWS always want near MLB ready talent or people who are athletic but not possessive of any actual baseball skills! STL actually plans ahead for who is leaving and when, if that helps.
    Last edited by rjackson; 07-25-2013, 09:38 AM.

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    • bwoodring9
      Pro
      • May 2012
      • 683

      #7952
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by rjackson
      CWS should accept the Starlin for Alexei deal I would hope, assuming he can play SS? I am not sure if STL would agree to that though, tbh.

      On Norris, check his service time--arb eligibles show up as "1/1" in the contract columns in the game.

      PS It would have been CMart and who knows what for Peavy and Alexei--you might be able to work off of that. CWS always want near MLB ready talent or people who are athletic but not possessive of any actual baseball skills! STL actually plans ahead for who is leaving and when, if that helps.
      Hmm, so for Norris you think Adam Morgan an Cloyd? Realistically, I think it's pretty much guaranteed that Norris gets dealt irl. Also, I figured the cards would want Ramirez because they have no production from any shortstops, like in real life, and Ramirez could fill the void. I've heard interest about peavy to stl but in game they don't really need him.

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      • Deuce2223
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 12571

        #7953
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by bwoodring9
        I agree, this just wouldn't happen as the giants are getting no value in return

        Okay you being a Phillies fan, is there anywhere good to send Ryan Howard. Yes his contract sucks, but with Posey and Pence both out, the Giants could use his middle of the order/power bat.

        I added Young and Mayberry because both could fit current holes they need to fill plus be bench upgrades when Pence comes back.

        Lincecum was 0-8 in his first 10 starts so I moved him to the bullpen and he has picked up 3 wins to be 3-8. So I don't really value him as high as the spreadsheet says as He makes almost 5 mil a year which is a lot for a guy who isn't even in the rotation anymore., so I figure he would be someone that the Phillies could take on hoping to get him back to where he once was, as Holliday and Lee are most likely on the next train out of town, as I try and help the Phillies climb out of the NL East cellar.

        I believe you did a Phillies rebuild, so I am curious where you sent guy's like Howard, Rollins, Hamels, Lee, Holliday? If I remember right you dealt Lee to Texas for prospects, but in my Franchise most of those guy's are already gone to Miami for Stanton.

        I honestly thought about dealing Lee back to the M's, but I just don't have the cap space to do it.

        The only teams that have money are either small market like the Twins, or the evil empire's of the Yankees or Angels. Howard isn't a fit for either of them, but I am looking at moving a SP to each of them possibly. Only issue with the Angels is they don't have a ton of prospects,

        but figuring if I move Howard, I could do something like Trumbo to 1B in Philly for Lee, and maybe a package of prospects and maybe Granderson to the Phillies for Hamels or Holliday.
        Last edited by Deuce2223; 07-25-2013, 11:50 AM.

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        • RogueHominid
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2006
          • 10900

          #7954
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Re: Howard, I do recall hearing/reading that his troubles against lefties are rendering him a very expensive platoon player, which is not a good thing and may suggest a drop in his long-term value to the team.

          Manuel said that he's not convinced "yet" that he's a platoon guy, but the performance warrants the consideration of that possibility, so to my mind, it's not out of the question entirely. It seems like more value is placed on Utley.

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          • bwoodring9
            Pro
            • May 2012
            • 683

            #7955
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Deuce2223
            Okay you being a Phillies fan, is there anywhere good to send Ryan Howard. Yes his contract sucks, but with Posey and Pence both out, the Giants could use his middle of the order/power bat.

            I added Young and Mayberry because both could fit current holes they need to fill plus be bench upgrades when Pence comes back.

            Lincecum was 0-8 in his first 10 starts so I moved him to the bullpen and he has picked up 3 wins to be 3-8. So I don't really value him as high as the spreadsheet says as He makes almost 5 mil a year which is a lot for a guy who isn't even in the rotation anymore., so I figure he would be someone that the Phillies could take on hoping to get him back to where he once was, as Holliday and Lee are most likely on the next train out of town, as I try and help the Phillies climb out of the NL East cellar.

            I believe you did a Phillies rebuild, so I am curious where you sent guy's like Howard, Rollins, Hamels, Lee, Holliday? If I remember right you dealt Lee to Texas for prospects, but in my Franchise most of those guy's are already gone to Miami for Stanton.

            I honestly thought about dealing Lee back to the M's, but I just don't have the cap space to do it.

            The only teams that have money are either small market like the Twins, or the evil empire's of the Yankees or Angels. Howard isn't a fit for either of them, but I am looking at moving a SP to each of them possibly. Only issue with the Angels is they don't have a ton of prospects,

            but figuring if I move Howard, I could do something like Trumbo to 1B in Philly for Lee, and maybe a package of prospects and maybe Granderson to the Phillies for Hamels or Holliday.
            I've actually done two different franchises, but I wasn't very happen with how the first one turned out. I didn't trade Howard in either for sakes of realism and the fact that I highly doubt any team would honestly want him at this point. His contract is more than sucks, it's in discussion for worst of all time, along with A-Roid. In my first franchise, I sent Rollins to Boston for Iglesias and Junichi Tazawa, but I didn't move him in the second one for the sake of realism. As far as Lee, I sent him to Texas both times, in m first chise for Leonys Martin, Cody Buckel, Martin Perez, and Jorge Alfaro. IN my second I got Olt, Perez, Alfaro, and Feriraband (however you spell it, C SP prospect). I think Lee to either LAA or NY could work, but I don't think they'd target Trumbo if they were getting rid of Lee. Getting rid of Lee would mean they want to build for later, not get a guy entering his prime now. I think Cowart would be the only guy they'd want from LAA. As far as NY, I think either Gary Sanchez (highly unlikely) or Mason Williams would get the center of the package. More likely Williams along with maybe Betances and/or Banuelos, maybe even Joba too. I actually did trade for Trumbo in my first franchise, sending over Biddle and a few RPs in an attempt to contend, but it never worked out. I sent Halladay to LA for Seager and a SP that escapes my memory at the moment, but I also sent Utley to LA for Dee Gordon. However those were both in my first chise. I don't plan on moving either of them for two reasons. For Halladay, his value has taken a huge hit and he's probably worth AT BEST 2 mid B's, but I'd rather try and hold on to him for the year. With Utley, he's adored by all of Philly and I want to atleast keep him around as a role player for the rest of his career. Hamels hasn't gone anywhere in either franchise, and even if they Phillies want to have a fire sale there's no way they'd move him, they value him too much, plus his huge contract. Michael Young is a guy a contender like Boston or NYY might want for a B (his value in my opinion). I sent him to LAA for Conger and Nick Maronde in my franchise. Sorry for the late reply and the long post, there's just a lot of information I thought would be helpful for you.

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            • bwoodring9
              Pro
              • May 2012
              • 683

              #7956
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Altered some of my trades in my franchise, just looking for some last minute opinions here. Even though I think it's a bit much, I am willing to send Adam Morgan (3.63 ERA in AAA) and CLoyd ( 2.97 ERA out of Long relief) for Bud Norris, who in my opinion will be moved in real life sometime in the next week and I think the Astros would like 2 young arms for him. I've also thought about sending Aramis Ramirez to NYY. They are completely out of contention this year, but that's because of the injuries. I figured since Ramirez's contract goes through next year, they'd make a deal for him to help compete for next season. Maybe sending someone like Corban Joseph to the Brewers? Also, still trying to work out the Alexei Ramirez trade to STL, but I think he'd go there for Starlin Rodriguez, or maybe even Wong if you guys think STL would massively overpay for a SS. I have thought about send Peavy to Toronto because they are first place in the wild card and 4 games back of Tampa in the AL East. I was thinking maybe sending AJ Jiminez and Moises Sierra to Chicago. What do you guys think about these trades?

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              • KomicJ
                Pro
                • Aug 2006
                • 625

                #7957
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Seattle Mariners, Year 1, July 1st.

                Injuries hit the team pretty hard, especially in the outfield, and I'm currently 3rd in the division, 13.5 behind the Angles and the A's, who are tied at 52-31. So I'm looking to unload a few vets, and keep building for the future.

                I've got a a few SPs in the minor who did really well, and might be open (although, I'm not desperately looking) to trade Felix Hernandez, who had an average season, but lack of offense really hurt his record (he's 3-7, 3.32 ERA, 107 SO, 41 BB, 1.40 WHIP).

                Players I'd like to trade:

                SP - H.Iwakuma: 5-6, 3.89 ERA, 86 SO, 29 BB, 1.10 WHIP
                SP - A.Harang: 5-2, 3.82 ERA, 42 SO, 33 BB, 1.59 WHIP
                LF - J.Bay: .359, 7 HR, 17 RBI, .433 OBP, .692 SLG% (Mostly used as PH)
                LF - R.Ibanez: .203, 1 HR, 14 RBI, .263 OBP, .273 SLG%

                J.Montero, K.Morales, D.Ackley, B.Ryan, F.Gutierrez and M.Saunders...I'm open to keep for another year, but I'm also open to trade them if they're necessary for a good trade. Morse can't be traded, he's out for the year.

                Most of my young pitchers and infielders are progressing well...so I'm mostly looking for outfield help...that can be part of the future for my franchise.

                STANDINGS (10 games behind or less)
                AL EAST: Toronto, Boston (0.5), New York (7.5), Baltimore (8.0)
                AL CENTRAL: Detroit, Minnesota (7.0), Kansas City (7.0), Cleveland (7.5)
                AL WEST: Oakland, Los Angeles
                AL WILDCARD: Los Angeles, Boston (1.5), New York (8.5), Baltimore (9.0)

                NL EAST: Atlanta, Washington (9.0), Philadelphia (9.5)
                NL CENTRAL: Cincinnati, Milwaukee (5.5), Chicago (8.0)
                NL WEST: San Francisco, Arizona (2.5)
                NL WILDCARD: Arizona, Milwaukee, Washington (2.5), Chicago (2.5), Philadelphia (3.0), Colorado (6.0), St.Louis (6.0), St.Louis (6.5), New York (7.0), Los Angeles (7.0), Pittsburgh (9.5).

                Any fit I should explore first ?

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                • rjackson
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 1661

                  #7958
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by bwoodring9
                  Altered some of my trades in my franchise, just looking for some last minute opinions here. Even though I think it's a bit much, I am willing to send Adam Morgan (3.63 ERA in AAA) and CLoyd ( 2.97 ERA out of Long relief) for Bud Norris, who in my opinion will be moved in real life sometime in the next week and I think the Astros would like 2 young arms for him. I've also thought about sending Aramis Ramirez to NYY. They are completely out of contention this year, but that's because of the injuries. I figured since Ramirez's contract goes through next year, they'd make a deal for him to help compete for next season. Maybe sending someone like Corban Joseph to the Brewers? Also, still trying to work out the Alexei Ramirez trade to STL, but I think he'd go there for Starlin Rodriguez, or maybe even Wong if you guys think STL would massively overpay for a SS. I have thought about send Peavy to Toronto because they are first place in the wild card and 4 games back of Tampa in the AL East. I was thinking maybe sending AJ Jiminez and Moises Sierra to Chicago. What do you guys think about these trades?
                  On the Norris trade:
                  Alexei for Starlin: CWS likes Beckham and he has good value defensively. They also have another 2B coming up who looks good. No need for Wong but getting a SS in return would be good. Maybe throw in a RP with C potential but some velocity going to STL.
                  For Peavy, give them something similar to what the Cubbies got for Garza. CWS would most desire OFers, 3B, 1B, & SP.
                  Last edited by rjackson; 07-25-2013, 11:59 PM.

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                  • Deuce2223
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 12571

                    #7959
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by KomicJ
                    Seattle Mariners, Year 1, July 1st.

                    Injuries hit the team pretty hard, especially in the outfield, and I'm currently 3rd in the division, 13.5 behind the Angles and the A's, who are tied at 52-31. So I'm looking to unload a few vets, and keep building for the future.

                    I've got a a few SPs in the minor who did really well, and might be open (although, I'm not desperately looking) to trade Felix Hernandez, who had an average season, but lack of offense really hurt his record (he's 3-7, 3.32 ERA, 107 SO, 41 BB, 1.40 WHIP).

                    Players I'd like to trade:

                    SP - H.Iwakuma: 5-6, 3.89 ERA, 86 SO, 29 BB, 1.10 WHIP
                    SP - A.Harang: 5-2, 3.82 ERA, 42 SO, 33 BB, 1.59 WHIP
                    LF - J.Bay: .359, 7 HR, 17 RBI, .433 OBP, .692 SLG% (Mostly used as PH)
                    LF - R.Ibanez: .203, 1 HR, 14 RBI, .263 OBP, .273 SLG%

                    J.Montero, K.Morales, D.Ackley, B.Ryan, F.Gutierrez and M.Saunders...I'm open to keep for another year, but I'm also open to trade them if they're necessary for a good trade. Morse can't be traded, he's out for the year.

                    Most of my young pitchers and infielders are progressing well...so I'm mostly looking for outfield help...that can be part of the future for my franchise.

                    STANDINGS (10 games behind or less)
                    AL EAST: Toronto, Boston (0.5), New York (7.5), Baltimore (8.0)
                    AL CENTRAL: Detroit, Minnesota (7.0), Kansas City (7.0), Cleveland (7.5)
                    AL WEST: Oakland, Los Angeles
                    AL WILDCARD: Los Angeles, Boston (1.5), New York (8.5), Baltimore (9.0)

                    NL EAST: Atlanta, Washington (9.0), Philadelphia (9.5)
                    NL CENTRAL: Cincinnati, Milwaukee (5.5), Chicago (8.0)
                    NL WEST: San Francisco, Arizona (2.5)
                    NL WILDCARD: Arizona, Milwaukee, Washington (2.5), Chicago (2.5), Philadelphia (3.0), Colorado (6.0), St.Louis (6.0), St.Louis (6.5), New York (7.0), Los Angeles (7.0), Pittsburgh (9.5).

                    Any fit I should explore first ?

                    Not sure if you read USSMariner, but it's a great website. As far as Harang and Bay they are not worth much, maybe a C prospect at best. Ibanez would be worth something to a team needing a DH if he was putting up decent #'s but he isn't so you are probably better off just letting him retire a Mariner.

                    I am running a M's Franchise as well. Won the World Series last year, and I am leading the Division this year at July 1st by 7 games. So a trip to the playoffs is likely.

                    You can deal Iwakuma if you want but if you want to keep things realistic, you can deal Felix. He just signed a 7-year extension and is the face of the franchise. Had he not signed the deal, then yes I could've seen him dealt.

                    As far as what Iwakuma is worth, I would look at the spreadsheet.

                    As far as other deals, I would look at getting rid of Ryan, Morales, and Montero. I don't see any of the 3 on the M's next season. Montero and Morales could next you some B prospects, well Ryan is probably worth a C maybe high C to a team really needing a SS. Twins and Cardinals are your best teams to look at. Montero and Morales need to go to teams looking for a 1B/DH hitter. Montero defense sucks behind the plate, but can be used there in a pinch similar to R. Doumit of the Twins.

                    I believe the M's will make a huge push for Ellsbury in the offseason, he is a Pacific Northwest local who played college ball at Oregon State. You might keep that in mind as you look for what to add now and what to add in the offseason. I tried to go after Ellsbury in mine, but the Redsox resigned him. I ended up trading for A. Either who helped me win the Series but now he too is in Boston as I dealt him for some pitching help after T. Walker and J. Paxton proved they were not ready for "The Show" to start 2014.

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                    • Deuce2223
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 12571

                      #7960
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Okay I am up to July 13th in my M's Franchise. The Padres have just jumped into 1st Place by a half a game over the Diamondbacks.

                      They are currently using a combo of J. Hairston Jr and R. Furcal at SS but both are hitting below .230 with no HR's between them.

                      Their rotation is currently

                      A. Cashner 4-4 4.73 ERA
                      E. Santana 12-3 2.52 ERA
                      E. Stults 6-3 2.96 ERA
                      T. Stauffer 5-4 4.89 ERA
                      C. Kelly 8-4 3.92 ERA

                      I was thinking of making a deal with the Whitesox for Peavy (7-5 3.42 EA) and SS A. Ramirez (.272 12 HR 41 RBI).

                      I was thinking LHP M. Fried (5-0 3.74 ERA in AAA) Padres #1 prospect, RHP J. Wieland (9-1 2.66 AA) #6 prospect, LHP R. Erlin (7-2 4.06 ERA AA) #8 prospect as key players going back. Or maybe Fried and Wieland with 1B/OF Y. Alonso rated (80A) who hit .306 with 8 HR's last year and is hitting .286 with 6 HR's this year.

                      Whitesox are currently using A. Dunn at 1B, but could easily move him to DH where they have Casper Wells and move Wells to the OF and play Alonso at 1B.

                      I would then move Jesus Guzman to 1B for the Padres or maybe acquire a replacement via another trade.

                      Chicago is 10 games out and have gone 2-8 in the past 10 games. Floyd just came off the DL so he could take Peavy spot in the rotation.

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                      • WaitTilNextYear
                        Go Cubs Go
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #7961
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by KomicJ
                        Seattle Mariners, Year 1, July 1st.

                        Injuries hit the team pretty hard, especially in the outfield, and I'm currently 3rd in the division, 13.5 behind the Angles and the A's, who are tied at 52-31. So I'm looking to unload a few vets, and keep building for the future.

                        I've got a a few SPs in the minor who did really well, and might be open (although, I'm not desperately looking) to trade Felix Hernandez, who had an average season, but lack of offense really hurt his record (he's 3-7, 3.32 ERA, 107 SO, 41 BB, 1.40 WHIP).

                        Players I'd like to trade:

                        SP - H.Iwakuma: 5-6, 3.89 ERA, 86 SO, 29 BB, 1.10 WHIP
                        SP - A.Harang: 5-2, 3.82 ERA, 42 SO, 33 BB, 1.59 WHIP
                        LF - J.Bay: .359, 7 HR, 17 RBI, .433 OBP, .692 SLG% (Mostly used as PH)
                        LF - R.Ibanez: .203, 1 HR, 14 RBI, .263 OBP, .273 SLG%

                        J.Montero, K.Morales, D.Ackley, B.Ryan, F.Gutierrez and M.Saunders...I'm open to keep for another year, but I'm also open to trade them if they're necessary for a good trade. Morse can't be traded, he's out for the year.

                        Most of my young pitchers and infielders are progressing well...so I'm mostly looking for outfield help...that can be part of the future for my franchise.

                        STANDINGS (10 games behind or less)
                        AL EAST: Toronto, Boston (0.5), New York (7.5), Baltimore (8.0)
                        AL CENTRAL: Detroit, Minnesota (7.0), Kansas City (7.0), Cleveland (7.5)
                        AL WEST: Oakland, Los Angeles
                        AL WILDCARD: Los Angeles, Boston (1.5), New York (8.5), Baltimore (9.0)

                        NL EAST: Atlanta, Washington (9.0), Philadelphia (9.5)
                        NL CENTRAL: Cincinnati, Milwaukee (5.5), Chicago (8.0)
                        NL WEST: San Francisco, Arizona (2.5)
                        NL WILDCARD: Arizona, Milwaukee, Washington (2.5), Chicago (2.5), Philadelphia (3.0), Colorado (6.0), St.Louis (6.0), St.Louis (6.5), New York (7.0), Los Angeles (7.0), Pittsburgh (9.5).

                        Any fit I should explore first ?
                        First of all, I really wouldn't trade Felix if I were you. He's one of those guys that should play his full career in one spot. He's a generational talent, and his trade value (although incredibly high) doesn't begin to capture what he means to that org. Without concocting some extravagant backstory, there's no way to move him with even a shred of realism.

                        Secondly, you're looking for OFs? The only guy on your list that would get you a top prospect is Iwakuma. You might explore the D'Backs depending on their rotation for someone like Parra, Eaton, or Pollock.

                        There aren't many good fits of teams that need a SP now and have a solid OF to give you.

                        Originally posted by Deuce2223
                        Okay I am up to July 13th in my M's Franchise. The Padres have just jumped into 1st Place by a half a game over the Diamondbacks.

                        They are currently using a combo of J. Hairston Jr and R. Furcal at SS but both are hitting below .230 with no HR's between them.

                        Their rotation is currently

                        A. Cashner 4-4 4.73 ERA
                        E. Santana 12-3 2.52 ERA
                        E. Stults 6-3 2.96 ERA
                        T. Stauffer 5-4 4.89 ERA
                        C. Kelly 8-4 3.92 ERA

                        I was thinking of making a deal with the Whitesox for Peavy (7-5 3.42 EA) and SS A. Ramirez (.272 12 HR 41 RBI).

                        I was thinking LHP M. Fried (5-0 3.74 ERA in AAA) Padres #1 prospect, RHP J. Wieland (9-1 2.66 AA) #6 prospect, LHP R. Erlin (7-2 4.06 ERA AA) #8 prospect as key players going back. Or maybe Fried and Wieland with 1B/OF Y. Alonso rated (80A) who hit .306 with 8 HR's last year and is hitting .286 with 6 HR's this year.

                        Whitesox are currently using A. Dunn at 1B, but could easily move him to DH where they have Casper Wells and move Wells to the OF and play Alonso at 1B.

                        I would then move Jesus Guzman to 1B for the Padres or maybe acquire a replacement via another trade.

                        Chicago is 10 games out and have gone 2-8 in the past 10 games. Floyd just came off the DL so he could take Peavy spot in the rotation.
                        I don't particularly think it's a good idea for San Diego to deal their best prospect. There are only a handful of guys I could see that working for, and Peavy and Ramirez aren't on that list. They're both older players, even moreso that you're in 2014. The Padres aren't really flush with cash either, so if they were to deal for an arm, it would be a reasonably-priced mid-level arm. The beauty of Petco, though, is they might just take a chance with whichever hot, near-ready prospect in AAA they have and not make a deal at all. Too bad they dealt Everth, that would've taken care of their SS issue. They could try to get by with Forsythe and Amarista. Maybe an Erlin for Alexei deal would make sense if Alexei's salary isn't too high. I don't recommend they trade Fried though.
                        Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 07-26-2013, 02:43 AM.
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                        • rjackson
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1661

                          #7962
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          I am thinking of trading Edinson Volquez to a team who is desperate for pitching. What else would I have to give up just so the other team would take him?
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                          • Deuce2223
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 12571

                            #7963
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread


                            I don't particularly think it's a good idea for San Diego to deal their best
                            prospect. There are only a handful of guys I could see that working for, and
                            Peavy and Ramirez aren't on that list. They're both older players, even moreso that you're in 2014. The Padres aren't really flush with cash either, so if they were to deal for an arm, it would be a reasonably-priced mid-level arm. The beauty of Petco, though, is they might just take a chance with whichever hot, near-ready prospect in AAA they have and not make a deal at all. Too bad they dealt Everth, that would've taken care of their SS issue. They could try to get by with Forsythe and Amarista. Maybe an Erlin for Alexei deal would make sense if Alexei's salary isn't too high. I don't recommend they trade Fried though.
                            They didn't deal E. Carbera or Forsythe, they just both left via Free Agency.

                            I agree the price of dealing Fried is steep and that's why I posted it here. The only advantage of being in 2014 vs 2013, is Peavy is in the last year of his deal, so basically it would be a 1 year rental unless they could get him at a cheaper rate next year. He is only 32 so realistically they could sign him to a 3 yr deal after the season and I would think still be okay, if they could get him for about half of the 6.5 mil he is making this year.

                            Ramirez is the same 32, but already has a 3 year 5.4 mil per season deal in place.

                            I actually like the idea of Peavy back to the Padres most, but without Ramirez in the deal, maybe do it for Alonso and Wieland or maybe a guy like A. Bass who is a (78C) currently in AAA but is 10-5 with a 2.62 ERA. Bass is 26, so he could be a guy that could slide in the Sox's rotation at the end.

                            However on the money end, dealing Alonso, Bass, Wieland would be sending 12.31 mil in salary over the Chicago and taking back Peavy and Ramirez would be 11.79 mil this season.


                            Guess I need to look at the spreadsheet and figure out maybe a better combo of players. that would make sense for the Padres to give up for a possible 1 year rental to win the NL West.

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                            • njdevils14
                              Pro
                              • May 2012
                              • 611

                              #7964
                              Pretty broad/generic question: Who are some good/cheap 1st Basemen to target as a backup?

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                              • Alfonsori
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 136

                                #7965
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by njdevils14
                                Pretty broad/generic question: Who are some good/cheap 1st Basemen to target as a backup?
                                Mark Reynolds, Dan Johnson, Carlos Pena. Although they dont tend to hit for AVG. Casey Kotchman is also a possibility but he doesnt hit for much power.
                                Maybe Brandon Moss if the A's are out of it.

                                Garret Jones, Gaby Sanchez, James Loney, Justin Smoak.
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