What are your expectations for Generated Counts

[ripwalk]

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Me and B ma didn't like the pitch counts getting so high so we spent the past two weeks working on a little something something.

Fast forward two weeks..............................

Your pitchers will now have final counts very close to what you would normally see in regular game.

How did you manage to get them down?

Reading this thread got me a little less excited for the feature as from a realism standpoint it will be difficult to play games where you will never be in a situation where you have a 1-0 or 2-0 count at any point in an at bat.. I can't imagine the time saving from having these two counts excluded would be significant, yet it`s a major swing away from realism and also perhaps slants thing a bit in the favour of the pitchers?

This still sounds good though, but in future I would love to see it be less random and more tied to ratings (good pitchers ahead in the count more often, bad pitchers behind more often and same thing for good and bad hitters and hitters who are free swingers/work the count).

[Knight165]

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I was under the impression it would be this way.

From what I get...it is.
It's randomly generated, but dictated by pitcher/batter ratings.
Of course....there has to be some sort of "die roll" as well or you would always get a good pitcher getting a good pitchers count...etc.

M.K.
Knight165

[ripwalk]

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From what I get...it is.
It's randomly generated, but dictated by pitcher/batter ratings.
Of course....there has to be some sort of "die roll" as well or you would always get a good pitcher getting a good pitchers count...etc.

M.K.
Knight165

Seems more random than tied to ratings ... From first page of thread ...

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</td> <td style="background-image: url('/forums/images/quotes/00.gif');width:100%;height:1px;" width="100%"> I would assume better pitchers are going to be a "pitchers count" for the most part, while the not so good pitchers pitching behind in a hitters count.
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</td> <td width="18"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> Ramon's response: Not really for elite hitters/pitchers they will on occasion get a count that's favored for them. But it's a very minor boost otherwise C.Kershaw would always have a pitchers count. etc.....

[Knight165]

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Ha...I wouldn't have had to read very far to get that one!

M.K.
Knight165

[MrOldboy]

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I wasn't actually aware that the pitch counts were expected to be higher with quick counts on, but that's awesome that the devs want to get that right. I just hope going forward they do eventually add in a "full" option or something that has every count a possibility, for those that want to use it. It might not be as fast as it could, but for those who want those counts while also speeding up the game a bit it would be there as an option.

nvm: no RTTS

[ripwalk]

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I'm still probably going to use this as my primary method to play RTTS, especially early on to speed things up. I already turn fielding and running off when in AA and part of AAA as well. Should make the early grind a lot faster.

Russell has already stated the game mode is not available in RTTS.

[MrOldboy]

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Russell has already stated the game mode is not available in RTTS.

Yeah, shame. Perhaps defeats my interest in the option. I thought remembered him saying its available in every mode, but I must have been thinking of something else. Maybe he dynamic cameras or something.

[SilverBullet1929]

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Loving what im hearing but still not much clarification on sacrifice bunts? My number eight hitter hits a double to leadoff the inning, pitcher comes to the plate, I'm thinking bunt and suddenly I look up and the count is 1-2? Ugh that would make me punch a wall.

I understand the purpose of quick counts and I love the option being available but any chance that maybe it can be shut on and off during a game for situations like that where I absolutely need an 0-0 count?

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[MrOldboy]

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Loving what im hearing but still not much clarification on sacrifice bunts? My number eight hitter hits a double to leadoff the inning, pitcher comes to the plate, I'm thinking bunt and suddenly I look up and the count is 1-2? Ugh that would make me punch a wall.

I understand the purpose of quick counts and I love the option being available but any chance that maybe it can be shut on and off during a game for situations like that where I absolutely need an 0-0 count?

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Its one of the issues people have with the mode, but it doesn't seem like it'll change anytime soon. I'd like to see 0-0 counts for pitchers that have poor batting ratings be an option at least. From what's been posted by Ramone 0-0 counts are impossible to encounter with QC's on.

[nomo17k]

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Its one of the issues people have with the mode, but it doesn't seem like it'll change anytime soon. I'd like to see 0-0 counts for pitchers that have poor batting ratings be an option at least. From what's been posted by Ramone 0-0 counts are impossible to encounter with QC's on.

It is the first iteration of the implementation, so I think we should be hopeful that after we get to actually use it and the developers receive feedback they will be used for future improvements. I do want to see all the counts personally, but Ramone made it clear what the devs' perspectives were on going with the implementation that has been described.

I think for this kind of thing to be useful, something needs to be sacrificed/compromised. I don't think there is one approach that works for all intentions, even if we want the game to stay sim while letting us hit/pitch (rather than CPU doing all its work, in which case it may be possible).

For example, I'm already an extremely patient hitter, so I probably won't benefit much from starting from a deeper count for the sake of having realistic amount of Ks and walks. It may make the game shorter for me, but is the shorter game time worth it when I actually enjoying working the counts? Probably not, so I might not go for that compromise. But others may benefit.

I think the main thing with "Quick Counts" is what the name implies... the game wanted something that accelerated the pace of the game. And the sim aspect probably has been compromised a bit.

It remains to see how we respond to the mode, but we know the devs are looking for feedback all the time, we should just see how it goes....

[NDAlum]

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I think for this kind of thing to be useful, something needs to be sacrificed/compromised. I don't think there is one approach that works for all intentions, even if we want the game to stay sim while letting us hit/pitch (rather than CPU doing all its work, in which case it may be possible).

Exactly. There has to be some type of compromise with a feature like this.

[MrOldboy]

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It remains to see how we respond to the mode, but we know the devs are looking for feedback all the time, we should just see how it goes....

Exactly, it's something I hope they look into next year as I really like the idea of quick counts. It's why I hope in the future we'll be given a choice between what's offered now and a less compromising option (all counts). I would love for games to be quicker, but I also don't want to sacrifice certain aspects of the baseball experience. We all know the devs listen and appreciate it greatly. It's why people voice their opinions on here.

[ripwalk]

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Loving what im hearing but still not much clarification on sacrifice bunts? My number eight hitter hits a double to leadoff the inning, pitcher comes to the plate, I'm thinking bunt and suddenly I look up and the count is 1-2? Ugh that would make me punch a wall.

I understand the purpose of quick counts and I love the option being available but any chance that maybe it can be shut on and off during a game for situations like that where I absolutely need an 0-0 count?

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I guess you'll just have to take what you are given and it's a two-strike count, make believe that your pitcher wasn't able to get the first two pitches down, and now you have to deal with it!

[THESHAMISASHAME]

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I guess you'll just have to take what you are given and it's a two-strike count, make believe that your pitcher wasn't able to get the first two pitches down, and now you have to deal with it!

For better or worse this mode will be situational for me almost a compressed game with high drama every bat kinda like going off a script we can help write without all the thats just baseball stuff to the hilt and then the smoke clears two hours plus later .

Since the game really hasnt changed much in years gameplay wise other than visuals and not that it needed it Im counting on GC to help breath some life into this series for me as its just to drawn out at times .

Oh does anyone know if this mode will effect the games presentation ? like will it be on Fast play

[nemesis04]

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Oh does anyone know if this mode will effect the games presentation ? like will it be on Fast play

I believe you are not stuck with only fast play for presentation, you can use the other type.