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  • nemesis04
    RIP Ty My Buddy
    • Feb 2004
    • 13530

    #91
    Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

    Originally posted by PhlliesPhan6
    I didn't see this asked or answered anywhere. Will Quick Counts be on both the PS4 and the PS3 Versions? Or is it only a PS4 feature?
    Both!.......
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    • HustlinOwl
      All Star
      • Mar 2004
      • 9713

      #92
      Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

      Verducci agrees with a lot of you
      Start every batter with a 1-and-1 count. This is too radical for my tastes. You essentially would be changing strikeouts to two strikes and walks to three balls. This is a common tactic for amateur coaches in scrimmages to improve the pace of play to get more repetitions for hitters, pitchers and fielders -- and it does work toward creating a faster game. I just don't believe baseball requires something this drastic.

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      • NDAlum
        ND
        • Jun 2010
        • 11453

        #93
        Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

        I 100% support Quick Counts and love it. As for it being polarizing? There's an option to turn it on/off so there shouldn't be any type of "bashing" on this feature. Those who don't want to use it should simply ignore the QC threads and move on.
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        • kehlis
          Moderator
          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #94
          Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

          Originally posted by JoeCoolMan24
          To be fair though, for people like me who, when on offense, swing pretty much everything, this really won't speed up that part of the game too much, since a lot of my at-bats were ending after 1 or 2 pitches anyway.
          But it will speed up the game when the CPU is batting.

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          • Fuos1988
            Rookie
            • Jan 2014
            • 47

            #95
            Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

            Originally posted by NDAlum
            I 100% support Quick Counts and love it. As for it being polarizing? There's an option to turn it on/off so there shouldn't be any type of "bashing" on this feature. Those who don't want to use it should simply ignore the QC threads and move on.
            I imagine we will see the QC topic come up in other threads and my hope is it will be discussed passionately but without "bashing". Thankfully we haven't seen any bashing at all, only civil discussion
            Michigan Man

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            • HustlinOwl
              All Star
              • Mar 2004
              • 9713

              #96
              Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

              Following my statement last year we can expect a lot of comeback or unfairness talk with this feature when released

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              • KingV2k3
                Senior Circuit
                • May 2003
                • 5881

                #97
                Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                Well, the "implementation" is always going to be subject to debate, but you can always "toggle on / toggle off" to your liking...

                The more I think about it though, the more I'd like to see the rare 0-0 and some 0-1 / 1-0 counts added to the mix for varieties sake...

                Tied into individual batter's plate discipline, etc...

                Oh well, fine by me for now...at least in theory...

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                • Fuos1988
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 47

                  #98
                  Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                  Originally posted by KingV2k3
                  The more I think about it though, the more I'd like to see the rare 0-0 and some 0-1 / 1-0 counts added to the mix for varieties sake...


                  Somewhere in this thread it was confirmed 0-1 and 1-0 pitches are in the mix.
                  Michigan Man

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                  • nemesis04
                    RIP Ty My Buddy
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 13530

                    #99
                    Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                    Originally posted by Fuos1988
                    Somewhere in this thread it was confirmed 0-1 and 1-0 pitches are in the mix.
                    The only count you are not seeing is 0-0.
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                    • RGmoney
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 4681

                      #100
                      Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                      Originally posted by nemesis04
                      The only count you are not seeing is 0-0.
                      Yes. As confirmed by Russell in answering another question:

                      Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                      Negative you will never see a 0-0 count. There will always be at least one ball and one strike for every quick count.

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                      • KBLover
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 12172

                        #101
                        Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                        Originally posted by KingV2k3

                        I swear, I have NO idea how anyone gets a game finished in under an hour before this feature's existence...

                        Do you guys enable that "Fast Play" option and / or skip the cut scenes?
                        I don't use Fast Play, but I probably skip (or shorten, i.e. let it start to see if there's some commentary and/or an overlay going to start, listen to commentary/read overlay, then hit X) more cutscenes than most who don't just outright skip/Fast Play.

                        As for sizing up the pitcher - I usually hit select, check his ratings and pitches. Maybe step out once in a while (don't know if that does anything besides buy some time) - otherwise, I probably would need to turn down the pacing the CPU uses when pitching. Sometimes it's almost like quick pitches! Some guys work VERY fast.
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                        • Russell_SCEA
                          SCEA Community Manager
                          • May 2005
                          • 4161

                          #102
                          Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                          Originally posted by Fuos1988
                          Somewhere in this thread it was confirmed 0-1 and 1-0 pitches are in the mix.
                          You won't see those counts either, you will only see mid or late counts.

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                          • JoeCoolMan24
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 1255

                            #103
                            Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                            Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                            You won't see those counts either, you will only see mid or late counts.
                            Earlier you had said every count will start with at least 1 ball or 1 strike. But to be more specific, every count will start with at least 2 pitches thrown, yes?

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                            • KingV2k3
                              Senior Circuit
                              • May 2003
                              • 5881

                              #104
                              Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                              Originally posted by Fuos1988
                              Somewhere in this thread it was confirmed 0-1 and 1-0 pitches are in the mix.
                              Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                              You won't see those counts either, you will only see mid or late counts.
                              Thanks for the confirmation Russell!

                              So, I gotta ask:

                              Why did you guys decide against those types of counts AND is there a possibility that the feature may be retooled to include them in the future?

                              I'd love to see an option to choose "Normal" (no GC) "Quick" (includes early counts) and "Fast" (mid or late counts only) in the long run...for example...

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                              • HustlinOwl
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 9713

                                #105
                                Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                                Originally posted by KingV2k3
                                Thanks for the confirmation Russell!

                                So, I gotta ask:

                                Why did you guys decide against those types of counts AND is there a possibility that the feature may be retooled to include them in the future?

                                I'd love to see an option to choose "Normal" (no GC) "Quick" (includes early counts) and "Fast" (mid or late counts only) in the long run...for example...
                                Answered earlier in thread

                                Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                                You answered your own question, but I'll elaborate a little further. The original design for Quick Counts was beholden to three pillars.

                                1. Cut the game times in half
                                2. Fun factor, regardless of what we did it had to be fun
                                3. Simulation stats, regardless of what we did the box score needed to look like the average MLB game.

                                So everything and anything that didn't fit into those three pillars was removed from the feature. The original prototype was just that a completely random pitch count. However that didn't cut down on the game times at all so it had to go. The feature continued to evolve from there until we had something that was fun, fast, and still resembled a normal game in terms of statistics.

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