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  • cardinalbird5
    MVP
    • Jul 2006
    • 2814

    #211
    Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

    Originally posted by Born Again
    Most people say don't swing on a 3-0 count. Is there a strategy to other counts? On an 0-2 count use contact swing?
    Depends honestly...

    If it is 0-2 with an important run on 3rd with less than 2 outs...then yeah I'd use contact.

    If no one is on I'd still use power/normal, unless the guy had no power then I'd just use normal.

    I never swing 3-0 unless the GW run is in scoring position or something.
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    • Born Again
      Rookie
      • Feb 2014
      • 94

      #212
      Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

      It is really hard to lay off some of those 3-0 pitches. Sometimes those will be the best pitches you see all game. If it is early in the game I am going to be on that 3-0 pitch like a fat kid on a doughnut.
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      • cardinalbird5
        MVP
        • Jul 2006
        • 2814

        #213
        Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

        I am just not a believer unless it is my 3/4 hitter with RISP. I'd rather make the pitcher work early on.
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        • Shakedowncapo
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 4031

          #214
          Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

          Originally posted by Born Again
          It is really hard to lay off some of those 3-0 pitches. Sometimes those will be the best pitches you see all game. If it is early in the game I am going to be on that 3-0 pitch like a fat kid on a doughnut.
          Generally, just try to get ahead in the count...That's it bottom line. You'll see pitches just as good on 2-1 as you would see on 3-1, 3-0. This is the reason why its so important to train yourself to work counts and gauge the break of a pitchers breaking ball within the first few innings.

          Everyone is different in regards to camera angles but for me, using a zoomed back camera allows the ball to travel deeper and let me pick up on its break. I think its one of the aides that people forget to use when they get frustrated with picking up pitches.

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          • MrOldboy
            MVP
            • Feb 2011
            • 2653

            #215
            Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

            The more I think about quick counts the more I'm starting to feel I might not like using them. Since not all counts are represented it means that I would never be able to hit a first pitch with quick counts on. Its something that occurs in actual baseball so I would miss it. It would be awesome if they offered some options with quick counts. Even just a fast play and full version, wherein the full version has all counts, but considering the balance work that would need to be done I don't expect anything like that going forward. I guess I'll have to sacrifice hitting an 0-0 meatball for faster games. I hope I do enjoy using them since I often fast forward games to get through them.

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            • bronxbombers21325
              MVP
              • Mar 2012
              • 3058

              #216
              Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

              Originally posted by MrOldboy
              The more I think about quick counts the more I'm starting to feel I might not like using them. Since not all counts are represented it means that I would never be able to hit a first pitch with quick counts on. Its something that occurs in actual baseball so I would miss it. It would be awesome if they offered some options with quick counts. Even just a fast play and full version, wherein the full version has all counts, but considering the balance work that would need to be done I don't expect anything like that going forward. I guess I'll have to sacrifice hitting an 0-0 meatball for faster games. I hope I do enjoy using them since I often fast forward games to get through them.
              I honestly don't ever see myself using quick counts. I really don't care if it is in or not. Just my opinion.

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              • Willis135
                Pro
                • Jan 2010
                • 601

                #217
                Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                Lets not forget about the other side of generated pitch counts, that being the pitching side of it. I am looking forward to the challenge of pitching from behind in the count more often due to generated pitches.

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                • Born Again
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 94

                  #218
                  Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                  Originally posted by Willis135
                  Lets not forget about the other side of generated pitch counts, that being the pitching side of it. I am looking forward to the challenge of pitching from behind in the count more often due to generated pitches.
                  I nibble them corners so much I have never had an issue with throwing too few pitches and not handing out a lot of BB's.
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                  • Willis135
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 601

                    #219
                    Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                    Originally posted by Born Again
                    I nibble them corners so much I have never had an issue with throwing too few pitches and not handing out a lot of BB's.
                    Not me, in an effort to make games go faster, I generally pitch to contact. Won't be an issue this year.

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                    • Rdrunner
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 263

                      #220
                      Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                      Originally posted by MrOldboy
                      The more I think about quick counts the more I'm starting to feel I might not like using them. Since not all counts are represented it means that I would never be able to hit a first pitch with quick counts on. Its something that occurs in actual baseball so I would miss it. It would be awesome if they offered some options with quick counts. Even just a fast play and full version, wherein the full version has all counts, but considering the balance work that would need to be done I don't expect anything like that going forward. I guess I'll have to sacrifice hitting an 0-0 meatball for faster games. I hope I do enjoy using them since I often fast forward games to get through them.

                      Ted Williams said he would never swing at the first pitch, but what did he know. lol

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #221
                        Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                        Originally posted by Rdrunner
                        Ted Williams said he would never swing at the first pitch, but what did he know. lol

                        True.

                        I think Blzer brought up my biggest concern: the sacrifice bunt.

                        Then again, even with 0-0 counts in there, there's no guarantee you'd actually get the count so you could attempt to sacrifice effectively.


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                        • Armor and Sword
                          The Lama
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21785

                          #222
                          Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                          This feature looks really cool and it has been requested for years. Now i am not one to play with generated counts. I love baseball with a passion and the dual...the mind game, the tension of every pitch is what I love so much about the best sport in the world.

                          However.....if I am in a pinch for time and want to get in a quick game....no doubt I will toggle this on and play a 20-30 minute game.


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                          • WahooWisher
                            Rookie
                            • May 2010
                            • 12

                            #223
                            Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                            I apologize in advance if this has already been answered, but I'm wondering if the generated count is exclusively for when you're batting or will it also be in play when you're on the mound? For example, as a pitcher, will you begin at-bats three pitches deep as well?

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #224
                              Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                              Originally posted by Armor & Sword
                              This feature looks really cool and it has been requested for years. Now i am not one to play with generated counts. I love baseball with a passion and the dual...the mind game, the tension of every pitch is what I love so much about the best sport in the world.

                              However.....if I am in a pinch for time and want to get in a quick game....no doubt I will toggle this on and play a 20-30 minute game.


                              Love that we have that option. Thank you SCEA!!!!
                              Yea I don't know how much or how often I will use it if at all but I love the option being in there.

                              There have been many times when the night is starting to get late that I've wanted to play one more game but just couldn't stay up another hour and half and to expidite seasons I may try playing with it in the third game of a series.

                              I agree that I wish 0-0 was a possibility but I understand why they are leaving that out and am okay with it.

                              Just love the option.

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                              • Russell_SCEA
                                SCEA Community Manager
                                • May 2005
                                • 4161

                                #225
                                Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                                Originally posted by WahooWisher
                                I apologize in advance if this has already been answered, but I'm wondering if the generated count is exclusively for when you're batting or will it also be in play when you're on the mound? For example, as a pitcher, will you begin at-bats three pitches deep as well?
                                It's for batting and pitching.

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