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  • nemesis04
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    • Feb 2004
    • 13530

    #196
    Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

    Originally posted by HustlinOwl
    Please keep this out of all online modes

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    Why would this bother you if you don't have to use it? Just curious.
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    • HustlinOwl
      All Star
      • Mar 2004
      • 9713

      #197
      Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

      Originally posted by nemesis04
      Why would this bother you if you don't have to use it? Just curious.
      Loses competitive edge IMO

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      • Will I Am
        Pro
        • Nov 2013
        • 926

        #198
        Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

        Originally posted by loganmorrison1
        I think CPU will randomly generate pitch counts
        I'm hoping that top hitters will get better "random" counts such as 3-1 or 2-0 more often that weak hitters.

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        • CMH
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          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #199
          Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

          Originally posted by HustlinOwl
          Loses competitive edge IMO

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          It's just an option. You don't have to play with anyone or leagues that use it.


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          • HustlinOwl
            All Star
            • Mar 2004
            • 9713

            #200
            Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

            Originally posted by CMH
            It's just an option. You don't have to play with anyone or leagues that use it.


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            Oh I know, just dont see why anyone playing online would want this is all

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            • MrOldboy
              MVP
              • Feb 2011
              • 2653

              #201
              Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

              Originally posted by HustlinOwl
              Oh I know, just dont see why anyone playing online would want this is all
              If the system is random enough I don't really see an issue. I agree not for ranked games just so people don't perceive it as the issue. But in the end it wouldn't really put the game out of balance, unless its not that random and patterns arise. If someone wants to use it in a non-ranked game, give them the option. Games take a while, especially if you get matched with someone who practice swings every pitch, or just takes a while to do things in general. If I can challenge a friend and cut game time down I might do just that.

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              • rymflaherty
                Rookie
                • Mar 2011
                • 225

                #202
                Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                This sounds awful to me and I have virtually no interest in this feature...

                Now having said that, it's actually an example that allows me to thank the developers of The Show. In a climate where developers are seemingly streamlining their games and creating a universal experience, the Show continues to add new features, while keeping the existing options, and allowing the player (consumer) to tailor the game to their needs and desires.

                I hate the idea. But I'm also someone that doesn't mind a game taking 45 min to an hour, has gotten sim/realistic results and actually has finished multiple 162 game seasons in a given Franchise....
                It doesn't appeal to me, but it could create accessibility to someone else and allow them to enjoy the game as much as I have. So thank you SCEA for allowing all these different playstyles and varied expectations and opinion to co-exist within the same great title.

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                • Bobhead
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4926

                  #203
                  Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                  Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                  Oh I know, just dont see why anyone playing online would want this is all
                  It speeds up the game? I hadn't thought about it before, but knowing GPC is available in online games is probably going to be the thing that gets me to actually play online games.

                  I normally avoid online like the plague, because I don't like how I am forced to "keep up"

                  Sitting through a 1-2 hour game without being able to pause and take breaks to check on other things in my house... that's not doable for me. I am a busy man. There are times where a 90 minute game actually takes up 2-3 hours because I had to pause and run to the store or make something to eat, or defrost/marinate whatever meat/chicken I am cooking, or even do some homework before its due etc.. etc... etc...

                  Online you don't have that freedom. You HAVE to play at a decent speed, or else you simply get disconnected on (or time out).

                  So Generated Pitch Counts (what is The Show calling them again?) in online play is nothing but positive, in my opinion.

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                  • nomo17k
                    Permanently Banned
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 5735

                    #204
                    Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                    Originally posted by Bobhead
                    It speeds up the game? I hadn't thought about it before, but knowing GPC is available in online games is probably going to be the thing that gets me to actually play online games.

                    I normally avoid online like the plague, because I don't like how I am forced to "keep up"

                    Sitting through a 1-2 hour game without being able to pause and take breaks to check on other things in my house... that's not doable for me. I am a busy man. There are times where a 90 minute game actually takes up 2-3 hours because I had to pause and run to the store or make something to eat, or defrost/marinate whatever meat/chicken I am cooking, or even do some homework before its due etc.. etc... etc...

                    Online you don't have that freedom. You HAVE to play at a decent speed, or else you simply get disconnected on (or time out).

                    So Generated Pitch Counts (what is The Show calling them again?) in online play is nothing but positive, in my opinion.

                    Online games tend to be actually quick with Fast Play presentation. My game rarely extend over an hour. Usually around 45 mins for a full 9 inning game, I think...

                    That's partially because HUM players tend not to take a lot of pitches (though I do... so I'm willing to guess other games are even shorter), so it speeds up games already. Plus many guys quit early.

                    I'm curious how people would use generated counts online. I probably won't use it as my preference but it may actually be a good option if more people go online because of it.
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                    • Bobhead
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 4926

                      #205
                      Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                      Originally posted by nomo17k
                      Online games tend to be actually quick with Fast Play presentation. My game rarely extend over an hour. Usually around 45 mins for a full 9 inning game, I think...

                      That's partially because HUM players tend not to take a lot of pitches (though I do... so I'm willing to guess other games are even shorter), so it speeds up games already. Plus many guys quit early.

                      I'm curious how people would use generated counts online. I probably won't use it as my preference but it may actually be a good option if more people go online because of it.
                      I take a lot of pitches and I don't play with fast play. That goes back to my earlier point. I like to have time to breathe when I play video games.

                      GPC is the first option we will ever have that speeds up the game without "rushing" the game.

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                      • cardinalbird5
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 2814

                        #206
                        Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                        Originally posted by Bobhead
                        I take a lot of pitches and I don't play with fast play. That goes back to my earlier point. I like to have time to breathe when I play video games.

                        GPC is the first option we will ever have that speeds up the game without "rushing" the game.
                        Yeah Nomo is correct. On Average my games probably last 20-30 minutes and I take tons of pitches. Your average opponent will not though, trust me.

                        Isn't it a contradiction to say you take a lot of pitches and you like to play with broadcast, but yet GPC is something that will attract you to online? I guess I am missing that. GPC is there to speed up the game and work the count for you. Using it online takes the entire idea of "working the count", "showing patience", and "possessing a good eye" out of the picture.

                        Anyways I think GPC for online leagues/franchises wouldn't be a bad idea for certain leagues. As long as it is an option then I don't see how it affects anyone.
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                        • CMH
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #207
                          What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                          Originally posted by cardinalbird7

                          Isn't it a contradiction to say you take a lot of pitches and you like to play with broadcast, but yet GPC is something that will attract you to online?

                          .

                          It's because online he can't pause whenever he wants. He has to play straight through.

                          In his home, against the CPU, he can take a break to run to the store, cook dinner, etc and it affects no one. That's not the case online. He doesn't have time to sit through an hour long game without breaks.


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                          • NDAlum
                            ND
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11453

                            #208
                            Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                            Originally posted by rymflaherty
                            This sounds awful to me and I have virtually no interest in this feature...

                            Now having said that, it's actually an example that allows me to thank the developers of The Show. In a climate where developers are seemingly streamlining their games and creating a universal experience, the Show continues to add new features, while keeping the existing options, and allowing the player (consumer) to tailor the game to their needs and desires.

                            I hate the idea. But I'm also someone that doesn't mind a game taking 45 min to an hour, has gotten sim/realistic results and actually has finished multiple 162 game seasons in a given Franchise....

                            It doesn't appeal to me, but it could create accessibility to someone else and allow them to enjoy the game as much as I have. So thank you SCEA for allowing all these different playstyles and varied expectations and opinion to co-exist within the same great title.
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                            • Born Again
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                              • Feb 2014
                              • 94

                              #209
                              Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                              Most people say don't swing on a 3-0 count. Is there a strategy to other counts? On an 0-2 count use contact swing?
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                              • Shakedowncapo
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 4031

                                #210
                                Re: What are your expectations for Generated Counts

                                Originally posted by Born Again
                                Most people say don't swing on a 3-0 count. Is there a strategy to other counts? On an 0-2 count use contact swing?
                                Its really down to the situation of the game dude. 3-0 with men on, I'm not swinging at anything until I see 3-2 or a fat fastball decides to sit in the middle of the plate.

                                On 0-2 counts generally I'm looking for something off the plate with breaking balls and/or fastballs. If they blow something by me, I tip my hat but generally the computer doesn't come right at you on 0-2 from my experience...They'll throw you junk and want you to chase. They sometimes get crafty and work the corners on 0-2 and depending on the ump that night you can either have night where you stay in there or a night where hes putting up 10+K's.



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