Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster
What do you guys think about some of the faces?
What do you guys think about some of the faces?
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Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster
excellent face work guysComment
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Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster
Does anyone have a windup for Vizcaino that's not out of the stretch?Comment
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Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster
I think you did a very nice job MrOldboy the only thing I might disagree with is that Fujikawa should be rated higher. But that's just based off an opinion. Thanks for the hard work and thanks legion for helping with faces!Comment
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Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster
Faces and batting stances were excellent. Especially Baez and Soler. Amoral irl has a high leg kick which was absent here but that's an easy fix.
Vizcaino, Paniagua, and Cabrera need wind ups but that's out of your district for two of them. The velocity on Underwood, Maples, and Paniagua were a bit on the low side imo. All 3 average 93-95mph topping out at 98mph right now. I don't know if they eventually work their way up to that velocity or will continue to throw 91-92 throughout the game. How do you make them fireballers without ratings getting too high.
Underwood should be B+ potential with adjustments for a very long Eta and high bust factor. Highest ceiling, lowest floor. Eta of 2018 at the earliest.
Good job Oldboy.Comment
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Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster
I was debating on Fujikawa to rate him what I personally think he could do or go with the projections that are out there. He is rated a bit higher if you change him to closer from RP. His pitches are from pitch f/x data this spring.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...443&position=P
I think his K/9 might need a bump though.
Ridin said he'd look at the SCEA players, but don't be surprised if they are not edited for the ST set. I'd assume they would want to edit them to get the rotations and lineups correct, but they have said many times no edits to SCEA players.
Do you have any recent reports having their fastball velocities? If they need a bump we can do it, just don't want them all throwing 95-98 consistently if that is where they touch.
Reading reports on Underwood his velocity is more on the low-mid 90s and then can touch mid-upper 90s. BA had him 91-94 consistently, but this was around the draft. But I could just be reading the wrong stuff.
MLB.com
Paniagua is right at 93-95 with his 94 velocity.His fastball is his best now, and future, pitch, one that can sit in the low 90s and hit the mid-90s, albeit inconsistently. He has the chance to have a plus curve and perhaps even an above-average changeup, but those secondary pitches are a long way off.
Maples is at 93
Underwood is at 92
This is a range so there is a range so 92 is more like 91-94 or 90-95.
Maples I was not that familiar with, he could use a bump up to 94 to get to that 93-95 range if that is where he's at. I don't want to sacrifice where the pitchers are likely to be consistently to facilitate where they can touch. But if their consistent ranges are off we can fix them.
I completely forgot about Almora, I was debating on his stance, Andres Torres or David Murphy. I had it as Torres with the high leg kick then changed it to Murphy and forgot to change it again.
Ok so list of fixes to pm ridin so far, wan't to give him one list and not bombard him with pms.
Up Maples to 94 mph
Almora high leg kick
Paniagua to SP, edit stamina
Authentic did a good job on Soler and Baez's face last year. I did give Baez a little extra eyebrow angle action though, that was one of my very few face changes.Last edited by MrOldboy; 04-01-2013, 04:11 PM.Comment
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Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster
OK some bad news on the pitch progression, they do indeed change and a lot in some cases.
Underwood had his FB increase to around 95.6 in 2017
Maples to 96.6
Paniagua to 97.2
I'll ask ridin about this and see how they want to handle it.
Maybe I need to drop everyone's velocity a few ticks.
This might have to do with how the game assigns the training.
pitch coach session trains the /9 ratings
bullpen session does the individual pitches (control, velocity, break)
simulated game does clutch
Maples and Underwood were assigned bullpen which explains why their velocities increased so much.Last edited by MrOldboy; 04-01-2013, 04:12 PM.Comment
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Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster
Have the rosters been put up yet?Comment
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Ill see if I can dig up report on Fb velocity for Paniagua, Maples, and Underwood. Paniagua was touching 100 and averaging 93-95 in his starts last year, Maples stays around 93-94 topping out at 97 occasionally. Underwood is jekyl and hyde. One day he'll sit around 89-91 and one day he'll sit at 93-95 and top out at 98. Dont know how you can measure that drastic inconsistency.Comment
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