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  • Birdman18
    Flyin' High
    • Feb 2007
    • 59

    #406
    Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

    Originally posted by Denzel Washington
    I don't see how the amount of games determines whether something is a rivalry or not
    In other sports like football the Bears Play the packers twice and thats considered a rivalry
    Hell I can't even recall the last time either team was good at the same time but thats irrelevant
    Plenty of experts saw the Yankees seeking Soriano and there were even some rumors about phillies getting Soriano for Domonic Brown.
    Soriano is 36 and the Cubs might be contending in 2015 why keep a guy that can make an impact on a currently contending team. Seems pointless IMO. But I can see what you're saying not a lot of people want marmol either


    Comparing a schedule of 16 games in the nfl isn't even on the same level or comparing 8 out of 162.. In the NFL, 2 games represents a 12.5% of the entire schedule. 8 of 162, is just under 5%. On top of that, the bears vs packers is a divisional rivalry, where the Sox vs Cubs "rivalry" is not a divisional, nor league rivalry. It really only matters to one city.. Bears vs Packers can also be represented as an Illinois vs Wisconsin state rivalry, since they are border states to each other

    The Yankees won't go after him since they've got Wells, and the Phillies aren't gonna give up a young Dominic Brown for the 36 yr old soriano. I doubt Philly wants to get even older than what they already are since they are the Yankees of the NL.. If anyone goes after soriano, it will be before the deadline and to a team that's close to contending, ala Baltimore..
    Last edited by Birdman18; 04-02-2013, 04:52 PM.
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    • Denzel Washington
      Rookie
      • Mar 2013
      • 406

      #407
      Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

      Originally posted by Birdman18
      Comparing a schedule of 16 games in the nfl isn't even on the same level or comparing 8 out of 162.. In the NFL, 2 games represents a 12.5% of the entire schedule. 8 of 162, is just under 5%. On top of that, the bears vs packers is a divisional rivalry, where the Sox vs Cubs "rivalry" is not a divisional, nor league rivalry. It really only matters to one city.. Bears vs Packers can also be represented as an Illinois vs Wisconsin state rivalry, since they are border states to each other

      The Yankees won't go after him since they've got Wells, and the Phillies aren't gonna give up a young Dominic Brown for the 36 yr old soriano. I doubt Philly wants to get even older than what they already are since they are the Yankees of the NL.. If anyone goes after soriano, it will be before the deadline and to a team that's close to contending, ala Baltimore..
      And the Chicago Rivalry is Southside vs Northside
      Im not the one saying a rivalry matters because of the amount of games played
      Im saying the exact opposite. The bears packers rivalry is really only a rivalry because of the age of both clubs. The rivalry itself is very uneventful
      There are rumors that suggested otherwise and I personally would believe a rumor published by a journalist over the assumption of a poster on a forum

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      • Marcelj21
        Rookie
        • Mar 2013
        • 45

        #408
        Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

        Cubs sign Ryan Sweeney to minor-league deal. Headed to AAA.

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        • zippy2212
          MVP
          • Jun 2008
          • 1095

          #409
          Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

          Originally posted by Marcelj21
          Cubs sign Ryan Sweeney to minor-league deal. Headed to AAA.
          For some reason I always liked him. I really hope we don't need to bring him up though since that would mean BJax isn't getting it done in Iowa.

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          • iRepIndiana
            Banned
            • Jun 2012
            • 1974

            #410
            Big fan of the Ryan Sweeney signing. Always likes him.

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            • jseward92
              Pro
              • Mar 2011
              • 854

              #411
              Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

              Originally posted by zippy2212
              For some reason I always liked him. I really hope we don't need to bring him up though since that would mean BJax isn't getting it done in Iowa.
              I like him as well. However I see the Cubs giving Jackson a minimum of 2 months. If someone goes down lets say in the next month I doubt we would see him. Would be Sweeney/Bogusevic/McDonald I assume.

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              • Birdman18
                Flyin' High
                • Feb 2007
                • 59

                #412
                Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                Originally posted by Denzel Washington
                And the Chicago Rivalry is Southside vs Northside
                Im not the one saying a rivalry matters because of the amount of games played
                Im saying the exact opposite. The bears packers rivalry is really only a rivalry because of the age of both clubs. The rivalry itself is very uneventful
                There are rumors that suggested otherwise and I personally would believe a rumor published by a journalist over the assumption of a poster on a forum
                It's not a rivalry when interleague play has only been going on since 1997..where as the Bears vs Packers rivalry has been going on since 1921, with the Bears owning the h2h record of 92-88-6.. I'm not sure where you live but to say that the bears pack rivalry is uneventful couldn't be further from the truth. Really the only thing eventful about the sox-cubs was Michael Barrett punching out AJ Pierzynski! Before 97, the sox were 10-0-2 in the charity game they played. Other than that, the owners had the rivalry, not the teams since they only played once, in the 1906 World Series which the Sox won 4-2...

                And with the journalism thing, anyone online can be called a "journalist." And I looked online, and nowhere was anyone saying Philly or the yanks.. Just you
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                • Mo
                  SSN
                  • May 2003
                  • 11425

                  #413
                  Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                  Alright boys, hopefully someone can point me in the right directions.

                  Are any of these guys are in the vault?

                  Zeke Devoss
                  Reggie Golden
                  Taiwan Easterling

                  I'm looking to add those guys before I start a franchise
                  Don't you EVER read my blog? It's gotten a lot better.

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                  • MrOldboy
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2653

                    #414
                    Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                    Now that the roster is out any takes on the Cubs?

                    Any changes you think should be made? Stances, positions, ratings, whatever.

                    I did notice Baez got toned down to a 64. Ridin said that they'll look into him and adjust.

                    Edit: someone noticed I left Fujikawa with a 0 SCV. I changed the order of his pitches and his movement at the last minute after asking Seanjeezy. He interpreted his pitch f/x data better I would assume so I used his movements, but I guess I forgot to change his SCV. His overall remained an 81 after I put in Jeezy's edits so I didn't notice his SCV was a 0.

                    Anyways it should be

                    SCV 73.5 MPH 71 movement, control in line with his other pitches so in the 40-44 range should be good. This does raise him to an 82 overall to those who thought he was a bit low, only 1 pt though.
                    Last edited by MrOldboy; 04-03-2013, 06:21 AM.

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                    • skow05
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 500

                      #415
                      Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                      Originally posted by MrOldboy
                      Now that the roster is out any takes on the Cubs?

                      Any changes you think should be made? Stances, positions, ratings, whatever.

                      I did notice Baez got toned down to a 64. Ridin said that they'll look into him and adjust.

                      Edit: someone noticed I left Fujikawa with a 0 SCV. I changed the order of his pitches and his movement at the last minute after asking Seanjeezy. He interpreted his pitch f/x data better I would assume so I used his movements, but I guess I forgot to change his SCV. His overall remained an 81 after I put in Jeezy's edits so I didn't notice his SCV was a 0.

                      Anyways it should be

                      SCV 73.5 MPH 71 movement, control in line with his other pitches so in the 40-44 range should be good. This does raise him to an 82 overall to those who thought he was a bit low, only 1 pt though.
                      Looks like they may have nerfed Junior Lakes Arm Strength as well. It's currently at a 68. Right now Josh Vitters & Christian Villanueva have stronger arms, and Ian Stewart & Jeimer Candelario are only slightly behind Lake in that dept. Was this intended? If not, what do you think a good rating would be? Mid-to-high 80's?

                      I'm assuming they knocked Baez down because he was becoming too good too quickly? Just a guess.

                      I noticed the Fujikawa issue late last night as well, thanks for posting the ratings for the SCV.

                      Great job man!! If I noticed anything else I'll make sure to point it out!
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                      • ItAllFades
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 324

                        #416
                        Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                        Fujikawa looks like an alien haha

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                        • abaer2
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3

                          #417
                          Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                          Almora is an A potential player I would say.

                          Now that the rosters are out, anyone made any good trades to build up the system? Turns out the Orioles will trade away machado, bundy, and gausman for Garza and a random prospect.

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                          • CubFan23
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 3985

                            #418
                            Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                            Originally posted by Birdman18
                            It's not a rivalry when interleague play has only been going on since 1997..where as the Bears vs Packers rivalry has been going on since 1921, with the Bears owning the h2h record of 92-88-6.. I'm not sure where you live but to say that the bears pack rivalry is uneventful couldn't be further from the truth. Really the only thing eventful about the sox-cubs was Michael Barrett punching out AJ Pierzynski! Before 97, the sox were 10-0-2 in the charity game they played. Other than that, the owners had the rivalry, not the teams since they only played once, in the 1906 World Series which the Sox won 4-2...

                            And with the journalism thing, anyone online can be called a "journalist." And I looked online, and nowhere was anyone saying Philly or the yanks.. Just you
                            I have to agree with you on this. Bears Packers is by far a better and more "eventful" rivalry that Cubs/Sox. I hate the Cubs/Sox games, they do nothing for me and I am thankful the number of games got cut down. The whole iterleague play has run it's course an I'm not excited at all by it, but now we are forced to have it with the realignment.
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                            • ItAllFades
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 324

                              #419
                              Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                              Originally posted by abaer2
                              Almora is an A potential player I would say.

                              Now that the rosters are out, anyone made any good trades to build up the system? Turns out the Orioles will trade away machado, bundy, and gausman for Garza and a random prospect.
                              I usually wait a little while and keep it realistic. That trade isn't realistic AT ALL.

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                              • abaer2
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 3

                                #420
                                Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

                                Originally posted by ItAllFades
                                I usually wait a little while and keep it realistic. That trade isn't realistic AT ALL.
                                Couldn't agree more. I just want to make some moves and am hoping that it opens up a bit as the season progresses.

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