Predetermined Outcomes

[Whitesox]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

Everyone would be seeing what you are seeing and these boards would be on fire if it were a fact, like you have presented it.

The levels/sliders DO work.

This sums it up. With the game having been out this long, there is no way you would be the first to discover such this.

[claystone]

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JT to see if the games are fixed here is a test. Put all rookies on the Yankee's starting lineup and play the Red Sox. If you still have a slugfest than the game is fixed.

This test for sure should tell you something is wrong.

[JT30]

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I dunno. I just finished another game with the same scenario and I won 11-8. I hit a grand slam in the bottom of the ninth off of Mariano with Cameron to win the game.

I had 22 hits. CPU had 18 hits.

Beckett and CC both lasted only 6 innings each

This was on Veteran Default

I received similar results on All Star Default and HOF.

So I am not seeing the difference between skill levels

[dickey1331]

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I dunno. I just finished another game with the same scenario and I won 11-8. I hit a grand slam in the bottom of the ninth off of Mariano with Cameron to win the game.

I had 22 hits. CPU had 18 hits.

Beckett and CC both lasted only 6 innings each

This was on Veteran Default

I received similar results on All Star Default and HOF.

So I am not seeing the difference between skill levels

Im just finding this hard to believe. There is a big difference between Vet and HOF. There is a big difference between Vet and Rookie.

[42]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

I dunno. I just finished another game with the same scenario and I won 11-8. I hit a grand slam in the bottom of the ninth off of Mariano with Cameron to win the game.

I had 22 hits. CPU had 18 hits.

Beckett and CC both lasted only 6 innings each

This was on Veteran Default

I received similar results on All Star Default and HOF.

So I am not seeing the difference between skill levels

You obviously aren't mixing up your pitches...

No way you'd give up those hits/runs if you were.

Whatever you were doing, the AI obviously adapted to it,

Do you pay attention to the Pitcher/Batter Analysis?

[countryboy]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

I dunno. I just finished another game with the same scenario and I won 11-8. I hit a grand slam in the bottom of the ninth off of Mariano with Cameron to win the game.

I had 22 hits. CPU had 18 hits.

Beckett and CC both lasted only 6 innings each

This was on Veteran Default

I received similar results on All Star Default and HOF.

So I am not seeing the difference between skill levels

Seriously...why are still seeking to find a problem? Not saying that you're doing this just for spite or to just complain, but I honestly don't know why you're still looking to see if this issue does exist.

If it does, how are you going to fix it? If its random, how are you going to determine if its happening in your other games, unless you plan on playing them multiple times to see if the same pattern exist.

I'm honestly baffled by why you are still looking to see if this is an issue, when its been determined there isn't a fix, at least via sliders/skill level.

[ltw0303cavs]

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I dont know, trying play with a patch over one eye and the controller in your left hand, while holding one foot up..... Seriously lol i dont know what to tell you play default take the solid hits down to one, see if you see a difference.

[JT30]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

You obviously aren't mixing up your pitches...

No way you'd give up those hits/runs if you were.

Whatever you were doing, the AI obviously adapted to it,

Do you pay attention to the Pitcher/Batter Analysis?

I think you are missing the point. It only happens for this ONE particular game.

I have a season going with the Marlins and I have pitched just fine.

I am curious as to why when I have repeated the same scenario, with the same two teams, same pitchers, same lineups... and with various skill levels and slider settings, I am still consistently having a slug fest.

[JT30]

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Seriously...why are still seeking to find a problem? Not saying that you're doing this just for spite or to just complain, but I honestly don't know why you're still looking to see if this issue does exist.

If it does, how are you going to fix it? If its random, how are you going to determine if its happening in your other games, unless you plan on playing them multiple times to see if the same pattern exist.

I'm honestly baffled by why you are still looking to see if this is an issue, when its been determined there isn't a fix, at least via sliders/skill level.

Do you or anyone else for that matter know EXACTLY what the difference in skill levels are?

I havent seen a definite answer on how veteran, all star, and hof differ in how the game plays or how it affects user interaction

[JT30]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

Im just finding this hard to believe. There is a big difference between Vet and HOF. There is a big difference between Vet and Rookie.

Ok thats fine.. can you tell me what the difference between veteran, AS, and HOF is?

[countryboy]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

Do you or anyone else for that matter know EXACTLY what the difference in skill levels are?

I havent seen a definite answer on how veteran, all star, and hof differ in how the game plays or how it affects user interaction

the differences are:

*skill level of the cpu
*the timing window for hitting
*how quickly the AI adapts to pitching patterns
*how much the PCI is relied upon while hitting

[Whitesox]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

I wonder if the adaptability of the CPU also changes based on difficulty level?

[countryboy]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

I wonder if the adaptability of the CPU also changes based on difficulty level?

yes it does.

[Titus1108]

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Sorry i dont agree with predetermined, i mean if thats the case then Madden is the text book of predetermined games. As far as slugfests, i think you will look at any slider maker and they say solid hits should be no more than 2, with solid hits at 5 no matter what the level your playing, its like playing with aluminum bats.

I h[ave solid hits at 9, an'd have lost 1-0, 3-2, 6-3, etc etc... Solid hits doesn't play a big factor as everyone on here seems to think.

[Titus1108]

Re: Predetermined Outcomes

Yes I see what you are saying, but that would be next to impossible during the course of a season because of the variables of injuries, fatigue, etc.

I played 20 games with a clean slate so to speak. So based on what I have seen, you dont find it odd that beckett-cc matchup, first game of the season, resulted in a slugfest for 20 games on all star default?

Turn injuries, trades off. And play the first game afgter the All-star break 20-40 times straight and see if ytou get the same "predetermined" results. That will prove whether the game has an issue or not.

I do agree with you however that sometimes the game "forces" things to happen. For an example of that, here is a good one. I had runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs in the bottom of the 9th, tied ball game. The pitcher cosectively picks off the runner at 1st base, then very next pitxch, he picks the guy off at 2nd!! I literally had no control at that moment. The game forces th]ings to happen sometimes that does make the game feel artificial at times, but overall it's not a game killed. In my example the game predetermined that that ONE certain game I was playing was going to be extra innings play no matter what. The cpu actually was behind late, and tied in in the 8th inning as well.

But unlike last year(year of the ai comeback), I always feel like I am in control of the end result of the game, where I do have a chance to win, as in my example I eventually won ther game in extra innings. Last year, there were games I felt like it was just scripted for me to lose no matter what. This year, they are "scripted" to go into extra innings, be a slugfest, pitchers duels, error mania! HR mania etc etc...you get the idea. BUT I can live with that this year, as it's randomly slecting games to do that in order to get realistic stats(most important part of a baseball game IMO)

If the game has what u are saying, which I believe it does predetermine randomly that certain game will be a slugfest or pitchers duel. But, I don't think it's fixed to be game 57 of 162, or game 49 of 162, know what I mean? It could be a glitch where that game 1 u played is just like that, who knows. But just enjoy the game man, play a season out and overall the game is great!