2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

[Mizzou24]

2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

As a Twins fan, I feel horrified that I've now gotten used to the likes of Byron Broxton and Miguel Snow :|

If they would add in more audio this wouldn't be an issue.. I hate not hearing any announcing so it's a lose lose.

[ClarkWGrizwold]

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Is this release going to have this years draft class?

[MCGREGOR__]

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Is this release going to have this years draft class?

If it does it should at least include rounds 1 & 2 and all other somewhat important players.

[Mizzou24]

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If it does it should at least include rounds 1 & 2 and all other somewhat important players.

I believe they said most wouldn't be.. But u can always import the guys in from my roster the 1-2 round guys plus important guys from other rounds are in it..

[teeds]

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If it does it should at least include rounds 1 & 2 and all other somewhat important players.

Why should it include rounds 1 & 2? What's the rationale behind this? Is it because they're the flavor of the moment? I'm not saying this condescendingly, I'm just trying to understand where people are coming from. We will include some draft picks. I favor balancing the rosters from the top down. To add draft picks means you have to replace others and I don't like putting guys at AAA or AA if they're playing low-A or short season ball.

[Mizzou24]

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Why should it include rounds 1 & 2? What's the rationale behind this? Is it because they're the flavor of the moment? I'm not saying this condescendingly, I'm just trying to understand where people are coming from. We will include some draft picks. I favor balancing the rosters from the top down. To add draft picks means you have to replace others and I don't like putting guys at AAA or AA if they're playing low-A or short season ball.

Why would u have to? It's a couple guys per team. More than the flavor of the moment.. Some of these guys are already advancing to higher level ball. And most have already hit the top prospect lists.

[teeds]

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Why would u have to? It's a couple guys per team. More than the flavor of the moment.. Some of these guys are already advancing to higher level ball. And most have already hit the top prospect lists.

Yeah, some (out of 74 1st and 2nd rounders, that's a pretty small percentage) of them have advanced and we included them. And they are the flavor of the moment. Some of these guys get over-hyped on arrival and then they slide down or completely off prospect lists. We were pretty judicious as to what draft picks to include and not all were 1st and 2nd rounders. Oftentimes people become so prospect centric that you forget that the unheralded guys make it to the major leagues too. That's what I try to take into account when creating players for organizational depth.

[Mizzou24]

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Yeah, some (out of 74 1st and 2nd rounders, that's a pretty small percentage) of them have advanced and we included them. And they are the flavor of the moment. Some of these guys get over-hyped on arrival and then they slide down or completely off prospect lists. We were pretty judicious as to what draft picks to include and not all were 1st and 2nd rounders. Oftentimes people become so prospect centric that you forget that the unheralded guys make it to the major leagues too. That's what I try to take into account when creating players for organizational depth.

Actually no I didn't.. I added guys from later rounds too.. Regardless 2-3 players getting added in isn't going to affect AAA and AA that was my point when u said u would have to have them playing in those levels.

[cra1971]

2014 OSFM HYBRID UPDATE - V3

Oops. Wrong Thread. My apologies fellas.

[Mizzou24]

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Wrong thread cra lol

[teeds]

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Actually no I didn't.. I added guys from later rounds too.. Regardless 2-3 players getting added in isn't going to affect AAA and AA that was my point when u said u would have to have them playing in those levels.

I know what your point is but we're working from two different perspectives here. 2-3 players does matter if you're setting real life lineups for AAA and AA like I've been working through.

[turty11]

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forgive me if this was covered but there are 90 roster spots, that allows for 15 non-OSFM base players per team, so why not make 1-3 of those this years 1-2 round picks?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Is this release going to have this years draft class?

No, at least not entire rounds. Probably just a handful of 2014 draftees that are advancing the quickest. Very few have even made full season A ball at this point.

If it does it should at least include rounds 1 & 2 and all other somewhat important players.

It won't. Other rosters will probably have this...we have no interest in adding that many who are so far away at the expense of guys who are closer to the bigs. Many of the 2014 draftees are available as CAPs, so people are free to add in who they'd like. I know that I would much rather have Jeimer Candelario, Tony Zych, Marcus Hatley-types than the Cubs 3rd/4th/5th round picks from this past draft. I am glad we are not just focusing on the newest, shiniest players.

Why should it include rounds 1 & 2? What's the rationale behind this? Is it because they're the flavor of the moment? I'm not saying this condescendingly, I'm just trying to understand where people are coming from. We will include some draft picks. I favor balancing the rosters from the top down. To add draft picks means you have to replace others and I don't like putting guys at AAA or AA if they're playing low-A or short season ball.

Yeah, they're just popular. I can understand guys like Schwarber who are advancing rapidly, but to have every 18 y/o that's 5-6 years away seems like a waste of a limited 90 roster spots per team. If we had 120 or 150 roster spots, it would not be an issue. But, jamming the entire AAA/AA/A+/A/A-/rookie leagues into 65 spots is an imperfect science.

Why would u have to? It's a couple guys per team. More than the flavor of the moment.. Some of these guys are already advancing to higher level ball. And most have already hit the top prospect lists.

Yeah, and it is those few that are advancing that we are adding. To add every draft pick, you are removing guys who might actually see MLB action soon for each 18 y/o you put in. Some guys aren't top prospects, but that's baseball, man. It's not all just big leaguers and star prospects. You need the org depth to make the roster feel realistic whatsoever.

Yeah, some (out of 74 1st and 2nd rounders, that's a pretty small percentage) of them have advanced and we included them. And they are the flavor of the moment. Some of these guys get over-hyped on arrival and then they slide down or completely off prospect lists. We were pretty judicious as to what draft picks to include and not all were 1st and 2nd rounders. Oftentimes people become so prospect centric that you forget that the unheralded guys make it to the major leagues too. That's what I try to take into account when creating players for organizational depth.

Actually no I didn't.. I added guys from later rounds too.. Regardless 2-3 players getting added in isn't going to affect AAA and AA that was my point when u said u would have to have them playing in those levels.

Well imo it is certainly not a good idea to add in multiple rounds from this year's draft, even deeper than rounds 1 and 2, at the expense of guys in the high minors that will be in the show soon. What becomes of all the mid-tier guys you are replacing who have advanced to the high minors and will absolutely see MLB action?

It's fine if you do it one way with your set, but I personally think a mix of top specs and organizational depth is the way to go, so it's not all MLB-ers and 18 year olds.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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forgive me if this was covered but there are 90 roster spots, that allows for 15 non-OSFM base players per team, so why not make 1-3 of those this years 1-2 round picks?

Because math. And because the people who are actually putting this together want it this way, lol.

90 players. 25 on the MLB roster. That's 65 players left. Within that 65, you need basically the entire AAA and AA teams, which is another 50 players. 15 players left. Add in guys who are off the active rosters due to injury--that's another 5-10 players. So, without adding any A-ball talent at all, we've got 5-10 spots to fill with key guys from high A and full season A. Maybe a select guy from low A. But, to get all these 2014 draft picks in, you guys are removing players at the higher levels to make the math work. That's fine, but that's not what we're doing with this roster.

[Mizzou24]

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Hmm odd my roster is not full of just 18 year olds.. And has organizational depth.. A lot of guys will sit in the minors and never make it..