Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

[My993C2]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

Call me crazy... but I finally finished playing all 2,430 games in a season... all CPU vs. CPU games!

Now I think I deserve "2,430" inscribed on my tombstone when I die... for all the people who left me in disgust while I abused my PS4 till it overheated for running days and nights for several months...

You're crazy. But you're not alone. I am doing something similar, but with my PS3. I didn't want to tie up my PS4. But the PS3 was sitting there doing nothing and feeling lonely. So back in late October of 2015 I thought I would burn some electricity and I began a Season in MLB 13 where every one of the scheduled 2430 games minus 162 MoM games would be played as a CPU vs CPU game. I have played 70 MoM games since then meaning about 1000 CPU vs CPU games have been played to date. Now on weeknights I don't tend to play any CPU games in the middle of the night and I don't play any games when I am out of the house such as when I am at work (the PS3 console is turned off). But when I am at home and unless I am waiting to play a MoM game to complete the schedule for a given day, my PS3 is busy playing a CPU vs CPU game on Fast Play. Not sure when I will have all 2430 games minus the 162 MoM games completed. I am optimistic I can be done by October 2016, possibly sooner. A lot will depend on how many MoM games I am able to play this summer keeping in mind I also want to play 162 MLB 16 MoM games (it's a lot to chew on). But I am in no rush to get this MLB 13 season on the PS3 completed. If it takes me 2 years, it takes me 2 years. As long as my PS3 still works, it's not going anywhere and it wasn't doing anything. Might as well put it to work before it retires.

Oh and one cool thing about playing all these CPU vs CPU games + my MoM games is that I will have a nice apples to apples comparison while comparing stats between my team and the rest of the league. When I compare the player stats across the league, I will know that each and every game was actually played. Not a single inning has been simmed. But I am not there yet. I am only approaching the 50% mark in the season. As you know, I still have a long way to go before all 2430 games are in the books.

[nomo17k]

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You're crazy. But you're not alone. I am doing something similar, but with my PS3. I didn't want to tie up my PS4. But the PS3 was sitting there doing nothing and feeling lonely. So back in late October of 2015 I thought I would burn some electricity and I began a Season in MLB 13 where every one of the scheduled 2430 games minus 162 MoM games would be played as a CPU vs CPU game. I have played 70 MoM games since then meaning about 1000 CPU vs CPU games have been played to date. Now on weeknights I don't tend to play any CPU games in the middle of the night and I don't play any games when I am out of the house such as when I am at work (the PS3 console is turned off). But when I am at home and unless I am waiting to play a MoM game to complete the schedule for a given day, my PS3 is busy playing a CPU vs CPU game on Fast Play. Not sure when I will have all 2430 games minus the 162 MoM games completed. I am optimistic I can be done by October 2016, possibly sooner. A lot will depend on how many MoM games I am able to play this summer keeping in mind I also want to play 162 MLB 16 MoM games (it's a lot to chew on). But I am in no rush to get this MLB 13 season on the PS3 completed. If it takes me 2 years, it takes me 2 years. As long as my PS3 still works, it's not going anywhere and it wasn't doing anything. Might as well put it to work before it retires.

Oh and one cool thing about playing all these CPU vs CPU games + my MoM games is that I will have a nice apples to apples comparison while comparing stats between my team and the rest of the league. When I compare the player stats across the league, I will know that each and every game was actually played. Not a single inning has been simmed. But I am not there yet. I am only approaching the 50% mark in the season. As you know, I still have a long way to go before all 2430 games are in the books.

I'm actually glad I'm not the only crazy on the face of the earth!

I still have PS3 and have considered using it as a dedicated simulation machine, but I couldn't stand the thought of not actually using the most up-to-date version of the game... I've always been fantasizing about running a full season with CPU vs. CPU because the sim engine isn't quite as interesting as the gameplay engine, but this was actually a product of coincidence for me...

Given that each game takes about an hour, I was truly luckly that I had 2,430 hours this y ear to spare just staring at screen as CPU vs. CPU games unfolded in front of me...






.... well no, with PS4, I could actually control the console remotely with my smartphone and that's basically the only reason I could get through this within several months.

[My993C2]

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I could actually control the console remotely with my smartphone and that's basically the only reason I could get through this within several months.

I was not aware that you could do this. I will want to look into it before my MLB 16 season begins next month.

[Lawrence.Johnson3]

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I'm also doing the same thing. I actually enjoy watching the games like they are on tv and I take myself out of the outcome.

[nomo17k]

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In case anyone actually wants to load up the season save file on his PS4 to browse the save data for the 2430 CPU vs. CPU games, here's the download link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9wxUHMA59l2YmNvamxwVkZvSlE/view?usp=sharing

It's ZIPed up so the file needs to be unzipped first.

[My993C2]

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As long as my PS3 still works

I spoke too soon. I had a CPU game playing a couple of nights ago when the console hung on me and it would not respond to any controller inputs. After powering the console down and then back on, the Blue Ray drive on the PS3 is no longer reading any of my disks. I killed it. I guess I could look into fixing the drive, or buy a used PS3 console and copy over my MLB 13 season file. Or just save my $$$ and give up on the PS3. Kind of sucks though as I was having fun with my MLB 13 season. I had played 72 MoM games and I'd estimate about 1000 CPU vs CPU games were also played. I had a record of 41 and 31, I was sitting in 2nd place in the NL West 2.5 games behind the Dodgers. But I was holding on to the first of the two wildcard playoff slots by a few games. Yes it was only June 17th. Still tons more games to be played. But the team was beginning to play some really good ball.

Of course MLB 16 comes out 10 days from now and that should keep me occupied with my baseball fix. But still sad to think I may not complete the season. I think I will download Nomo's season file and check it out.

[nomo17k]

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I spoke too soon. I had a CPU game playing a couple of nights ago when the console hung on me and it would not respond to any controller inputs. After powering the console down and then back on, the Blue Ray drive on the PS3 is no longer reading any of my disks. I killed it. I guess I could look into fixing the drive, or buy a used PS3 console and copy over my MLB 13 season file. Or just save my $$$ and give up on the PS3. Kind of sucks though as I was having fun with my MLB 13 season. I had played 72 MoM games and I'd estimate about 1000 CPU vs CPU games were also played. I had a record of 41 and 31, I was sitting in 2nd place in the NL West 2.5 games behind the Dodgers. But I was holding on to the first of the two wildcard playoff slots by a few games. Yes it was only June 17th. Still tons more games to be played. But the team was beginning to play some really good ball.

...

That's a tough luck... I've read that PS3 hard disks are encrypted cannot be decoded unless done by the original console, so I would at least copy the save data over via USB to somewhere else if you want to keep them for potential use later.

[Illustrated]

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Hey y'all, I'm new to MLB The Show games and to the game of baseball in general, but gradually learning more. Can someone explain what sliders are, and their importance?

[nomo17k]

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Hey y'all, I'm new to MLB The Show games and to the game of baseball in general, but gradually learning more. Can someone explain what sliders are, and their importance?

Sliders are something you could adjust when you feel some area of the game feels off... for example if you feel pitch speed is high and you tend to pull or push the ball too often when you hit, then you can adjust it so that you get roughly equal numbers of hits to either sides.

Nice thing about The Show is that the game plays decent simulation baseball at the default slider settings, so you don't really have to make any adjustments at all, unless you have urge to do so.

Some who develop too much of the urge to perfect his/her sliders set tend to be diagnosed as "slideritis," which is known to cause long-term effects including addiction, psychosis, paranoia, hallucinations, repetitive motor activity, changes in brain structure and function, memory loss, aggressive or violent behavior, mood disturbances, severe dental problems, and weight loss.

[tgreer]

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Amazing you could pull that off! That's a lot of hours. Curious to know your stats and thoughts on the game actually running compared to simming.

[nomo17k]

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Amazing you could pull that off! That's a lot of hours. Curious to know your stats and thoughts on the game actually running compared to simming.

The comparison between simmed and full gameplay results are pretty interesting... I have made the season save file publicly available for people who are curious, so for detail I would just let that thing speak for itself.

My overall impression is that the game does a decent job of simulating variety in player performance and the attributes do affect the aspects of the game that they are designed to affect... yet there are enough surprises that you can tell that players are not forced/capped artificially to certain performance level, which is good.

It also is nice to be able to see things like park factor... as in the Rockies hitting .290/.269 at home/away... I don't think simmed games take into account things like that, so being able to see that in action is indeed cool.

Also, unlike simmed games, pitch repertoire seems to matter. For example, if you look at the leader board in HR allowed, you see a bunch of (otherwise mediocre) pitchers with decent sinker/2SFB... I suppose their movement tend to keep the ball in the park.

That said, when this many games are fully played out, you will also notice where the game is not doing very well. A couple of examples:

Kershaw did dominate in the game just as he does in real life, but he walks quite a bit more batters than he actually does in real life. In fact, I tend to see in the game pitchers who throw many curveballs (e.g., Sonny Gray) tend to issue more walks regardless of their BB/9 attribute, perhaps due to the difficulty of commanding curveball in the game and CPU's tendency not to swing at them as often as it probably should.

If you look at defensive position, say SS, you don't see quite as wide a difference between bad and great fielders. Best SS in MLB in real life have their range factor around 5.00, but most SS in The Show barely cracks 4.00. This seems to show that the game isn't doing as good a job distinguishing player's defensive ability.

In detail, you could keep looking for shortcomings like these.


Nonetheless, overall I am not disappointed at all, and in fact I'm pleased that the stats from gameplay are not too far off from what you get from simmed games. I wish to see a little more dynamic range where currently lacking here and there (e.g., BB/9 for pitchers, BB% for batters, etc.), but I think the game does have a solid foundation which I hope we will be seeing further improvements.

[halcyon714]

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I am excited for your 2016 version.

[isherdish]

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I used this version for one game so far on manager mode. Won 1-0. The hit count was low, but it was two aces pitching. I will keep playing to see what kind of variety I get it hits, types of hits, runs etc

[Aensland]

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Looking forward to seeing MLB 2016 results as well. ATM, I'm working on a small sample just to get an idea. So far, it appears the offense is a bit on the low side (which seems to be the case in past games). Home run frequency was fine but hits were too low. This was me using starters 1-5.

[Ebpmd]

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I used the '15 set with the 1975 roster and got great sim results. Even better than in last years game. I only play CPU vs CPU and things look really good.