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  • nomo17k
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    • Feb 2011
    • 5735

    #181
    Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

    Originally posted by johnriii
    I may be really late to the party, but has anyone noticed the lack of pick off attempts, especially to first base? I bet I've watched over 100 games, and have yet to see the pitcher throw to first on a pick off move. Slider at default, 10,3, 7, it doesn't matter. Now, I've yet to try the sliders in this thread yet, so that could be the reason. Please be gentle...

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    I think the pick-off by CPU is missing from this year's game (in MoM and CPU vs. CPU anyways).

    Some things have changed in base running and in the process tuning of a few parts of the game has been affected, I think. Overall I think changes have been made in directions that are appropriate though (such as a wider gap in running speed of players)... hope running game keeps improving.
    The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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    • Heroesandvillains
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      • May 2009
      • 5974

      #182
      Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

      Nomo, your stats are looking excellent. Thanks for sharing.

      I've noticed that you have SB Ability at 10. What kind of black magic is this? Would you say it's fair to say the slider finally works as intended this year???

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      • nomo17k
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        • Feb 2011
        • 5735

        #183
        Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

        Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
        Nomo, your stats are looking excellent. Thanks for sharing.

        I've noticed that you have SB Ability at 10. What kind of black magic is this? Would you say it's fair to say the slider finally works as intended this year???
        Yes, to our disappointment, the SB Ability slider this year actually works the way it's described in the slider description. A tradition has been lost.

        I'm afraid that people start complaining of this game-altering "fix," and how user feedback negatively impacts the game.

        I certainly will be renting the next year's game, rather than buying on the release date, till this slider gets unfixed.
        The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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        • forme95
          MVP
          • Nov 2013
          • 3118

          #184
          Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

          Originally posted by nomo17k
          Yes, to our disappointment, the SB Ability slider this year actually works the way it's described in the slider description. A tradition has been lost.

          I'm afraid that people start complaining of this game-altering "fix," and how user feedback negatively impacts the game.

          I certainly will be renting the next year's game, rather than buying on the release date, till this slider gets unfixed.
          Nomo, could you elaborate on this? What was wrong? Im 2 years into playing the Show so Im not really up to speed. Ppl complaining of getting outs to easy or something? I use to play this slider on 4 because it was to easy to steal a base. But could really ever throw someone out. On 10, I was shocked to see how many players actually got caught stealing.
          Really wish sports games played to ratings!
          Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
          CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
          MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
          Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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          • nomo17k
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            • Feb 2011
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            #185
            Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

            Originally posted by forme95
            Nomo, could you elaborate on this? What was wrong? Im 2 years into playing the Show so Im not really up to speed. Ppl complaining of getting outs to easy or something? I use to play this slider on 4 because it was to easy to steal a base. But could really ever throw someone out. On 10, I was shocked to see how many players actually got caught stealing.
            It's just an internal joke of sorts... BR Steal Ability slider's effect used to be reversed (i.e., worked in the opposite way to how the slider description stated). It had been like that for 4 - 5 years, but this year it was finally fixed.
            The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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            • nomo17k
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              • Feb 2011
              • 5735

              #186
              Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

              All these games, I thought pitchers never attempt to pick off in CPU vs. CPU games, but I actually just saw deGrom trying to pick off Revere.

              So if there still is no pickoff attempts in MoM, then it might be MoM-specific issue.

              But we could still say that CPU does not appear to make pickoff attempts as often as we normally see in real-life.

              Just keep a note to myself.
              The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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              • johnriii
                Pro
                • Jul 2003
                • 528

                #187
                Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                Originally posted by nomo17k
                All these games, I thought pitchers never attempt to pick off in CPU vs. CPU games, but I actually just saw deGrom trying to pick off Revere.

                So if there still is no pickoff attempts in MoM, then it might be MoM-specific issue.

                But we could still say that CPU does not appear to make pickoff attempts as often as we normally see in real-life.

                Just keep a note to myself.
                I've loaded your sliders since my last post, and they work great (as always) but yeah, no pick off attempts to be found. Other than that, I like the variety of games that I'm seeing so far.

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                • nomo17k
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                  • Feb 2011
                  • 5735

                  #188
                  Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                  While I'm not meticulously keeping track of stats in each game, I've been running CPU vs. CPU games and most games have been run through the end of May.

                  Just for fun, I'll post some screenshots showing in-game stats. It may be interesting to see how they compare to when we (normally) sim most of the games.

                  Here are the current leaders in batting averages:



                  The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                  • forme95
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 3118

                    #189
                    Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                    I like those stats Nomo. Good job.
                    Question, what should strike % be about? Im sitting about 60 - 63%. Is that a little high?
                    Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                    Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                    CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                    MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                    Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                    • BrianU
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                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1565

                      #190
                      Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                      Nomo I'd love to see a mini test done with your recommended sliders with rosters that use the WTNY pitch edits to see if it changes the results from the MLB averages.

                      I am going to try running some CPU v CPU games with an OSFM + WTNY roster to see what it looks like but I doubt I'll do more than 20-30 games because I am not as disciplined. If you had to guess do you think it would require any slider changes using those edits?

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                      • nomo17k
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                        • Feb 2011
                        • 5735

                        #191
                        Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                        HR leaders through May:



                        The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                        • nomo17k
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                          • Feb 2011
                          • 5735

                          #192
                          Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                          Originally posted by forme95
                          I like those stats Nomo. Good job.
                          Question, what should strike % be about? Im sitting about 60 - 63%. Is that a little high?
                          It depends on the ball-strike count, but 60 - 63% would be a pretty decent overall strike %.
                          The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                          • nomo17k
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                            • Feb 2011
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                            #193
                            Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                            Originally posted by BrianU
                            Nomo I'd love to see a mini test done with your recommended sliders with rosters that use the WTNY pitch edits to see if it changes the results from the MLB averages.

                            I am going to try running some CPU v CPU games with an OSFM + WTNY roster to see what it looks like but I doubt I'll do more than 20-30 games because I am not as disciplined. If you had to guess do you think it would require any slider changes using those edits?
                            With custom rosters, it's nearly impossible to tell how much things deviate from the default game balance given that it is often not very clear how much each roster strays away from the attribute rating distribution of the default SCEA roster... to obtain accurate results, it is more important to get distributions of ratings similar to SCEA's than calibrating rating scales against real-life stats, but I've never seen roster editors talk about distributions. I don't know how these rosters play out in details, as I don't know the details of how ratings are done in OSFM + WTNY compared to SCEA's... and it's just too time consuming to keep adjusting sliders for all the changes that deviate from how SCEA designs things.

                            But honestly, I think you should not be worried too much about the details of how things play out, if your goal is to balance the game for your own gameplay... The difficulty levels as well as your own tendency/skill would have much stronger effect on causing some biases in your game results, so no single fixed slider set would be perfect for your gameplay.

                            I personally use things like Spring Training to get things "most right," and keep making small adjustments as I go deeper into the season and find things that are not quite right.

                            It is better to enjoy the game than getting sliders "correct."
                            The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                            • forme95
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 3118

                              #194
                              Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                              Originally posted by nomo17k
                              It depends on the ball-strike count, but 60 - 63% would be a pretty decent overall strike %.
                              Im usually seeing it at the end of games when I look at pitch screen. Average is all pitchers per team. Average SP is going 88 - 103 pitches (obviously unless they have a bad game) through 5.2 - 7.1 innings. I set my Stanimas to 4 for the Starter and 3 for releivers. My Hook is at 5.
                              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                              • nomo17k
                                Permanently Banned
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 5735

                                #195
                                Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 15 Version]

                                ERA leaders.



                                The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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