Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[Armor and Sword]

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On HOF I am now probably calling 70% of my own game now and love it.

I can’t on HOF just simply follow the catcher. I will get lit up more.

[Burgess]

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On HOF I am now probably calling 70% of my own game now and love it.

I can’t on HOF just simply follow the catcher. I will get lit up more.

Armour, have you tried turning API off and calling 100% of you game? Curious as to why 70%.

[JoshC1977]

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Armour, have you tried turning API off and calling 100% of you game? Curious as to why 70%.

How many real life pitchers follow 100% of their catcher's signs? Pitchers shake-off signs all the time...

Same thing here.....

[Burgess]

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How many real life pitchers follow 100% of their catcher's signs? Pitchers shake-off signs all the time...

Same thing here.....

Pitchers don't shake off catchers 70% of the time in real life either. I'm asking Armour if he has ever tried calling his own game with API turned off.

[JoshC1977]

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Pitchers don't shake off catchers 70% of the time in real life either. I'm asking Armour if he has ever tried calling his own game with API turned off.

True; I mis-read the 70% portion.

As for the API, I don't think it really does anything other than activate/deactivate those displays...but I'm sure someone else can confirm.

[The Chef]

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I am noticing one thing since starting September that's a little alarming. The CPU seems to favor RP's that were just recently called up when rosters expanded. Usually it's been a LRP that was in the minors as well. In my last 4 games the CPU has pitched 2 guys 4 times and 3 guys once. The game when they threw 3 out there was the same game their SP was injured before getting an out so it's not really a good sign. In those games the RP pitched 3.0, 4.2, 2.2, 3.1 and 9.0 granted those 9 IP were split between 2 RP's. The problem is they are constantly bringing in guys who are marginal at best, ignoring their actual good RP's and sitting on their hands as the guy gets lit up. The lone exception was when Jesse Chavez was brought in out of the pen and pitched well, otherwise the other 4 games got ugly in a hurry once the SP left the game.

Is anyone else having this issue or has seen this once the rosters expanded? I played Texas and instead of bringing in Matt Bush, Diekman, Claudio, Jeffress, Kela or Wesley Wright they turned to Chi Chi Gonzalez and Mike Hauschild who combined to give up 14 runs over 9 IP on 24 hits. You can't tell me their entire pen was fatigued and that's why it happened. In the series with the Angels before that instead of turning to MRP's they went with nothing but LRP's again (Tropeano, Jesse Chavez and Ricky Nolasco). Hopefully this isn't an issue going forward, I suppose I could take over the CPU's bullpen and make the decisions for them but I'd prefer if the CPU was just intelligent enough to do it on their own like they were all season long until September started.

EDIT - To add to this Texas has Darvish in the pen and not in the rotation, surely he would have been a better option then 67 rated Gonzalez and 66 rated Hauschild, hell Dillon Gee would have been better as well and he's sitting in the pen. Roster management once September hits has been extremely poor, lets keep Andrew Cashner (79) and Martin Perez (75) in the rotation and leave Yu Darvish (84) sitting in the pen never using him. I know those that are using 30 team control can fix this but I'm not using 30 team control and 144 games in it's a little late to try and go back now. I honestly shouldn't have to run 30 team control just to get basic roster fundamentals correct, trades are one thing, lineups getting changed is fine, but leaving aces sitting on the bench in September while using garbage pitchers who just came up from AAA or AA instead while being in the thick of a playoff race really kills immersion and realism.

[FERGY04]

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Armor what is your k per 9ip rate? Love the slider set yet I have a difficult time striking out the CPU. Right now after 30 games I'm only averaging 5 k's per 9ip.

[mbergh22]

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Just curious.. does user pickoff attempts ever work? Whats the trick If so?

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[The Chef]

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Armor what is your k per 9ip rate? Love the slider set yet I have a difficult time striking out the CPU. Right now after 30 games I'm only averaging 5 k's per 9ip.

I know you weren't asking me but figured I'd answer it as well. I'm striking the CPU out 7.22 per game over 145 games. Having said that since I went to calling my own game exclusively I've seen that number raise to 8.46 per. Some teams just don't chase much, Texas for instance has only struck out 8 times combined in 2 games. On the flip side I struck out Oakland 35 times in 3 games and LAA 29 times in 3 games so it all balances out.

[The Chef]

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Just curious.. does user pickoff attempts ever work? Whats the trick If so?

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I've literally only had it work 1 or 2 times all season. I use auto fielding and auto throwing and one of those two times my idiotic first basemen lofted it down to second and the guy was safe anyways.

[The Chef]

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The previous post I made regarding expanded rosters and pitching decisions is seriously starting to kill any and all realism. If a team is fighting for a playoff spot, more specifically, a team is leading the division heading into a series with the team that is right behind them in the standings, they don't completely ignore the regular bullpen guys and constantly bring in LRP's that were just called up when the rosters expanded. I will say that whenever the CPU is winning a game they will turn to the usual suspects but in 3 games with Texas I've been leading in 2 of them when they took the SP out and both times they brought in some garbage LRP who was previously down in the minors. The first time it was Chi Chi Gonzalez (67) and Mike Hauschild (66) and this last game it was Connor Sadzeck (65). These weren't blowout games either, the first time was when the SP got hurt before recording an out so it was 0-0 technically. The second time it was 3-1 heading into the top of the 7th. Both times the RP they brought in was gasoline on a fire, Gonzalez and Hauschild combined to give up 14 runs, Sadzeck came in and turned a 3-1 defecit into a 6-1 defecit and they refused to pull him. Now in the game sandwiched between these two Texas was winning 3-2 heading into the 8th when they pulled Andrew Cashner and brought in Matt Bush then Sam Dyson to close it out (granted he choked it away and lost them the game 5-3 but regardless they actually used the bullpen that helped get them into first place in the division).

I'm confused as I haven't seen anyone mention this but it's become a glaring issue. All I need is to build a lead, any size lead before the CPU SP gets pulled, and I know the CPU will bring in garbage and then it's damn near easy street from there. That's now 4 of my last 5 games where the CPU was losing and brought in a LRP that was just called up and all 4 times the CPU lost the game. If I go back to the series prior playing against Houston they brought in multiple guys as well that were called up when rosters expanded. I hate to beat a dead horse here but I'm close to simulating the entire month of September as this is getting absurd and has led to an 8 game winning streak, allowed me to go 11-1 so far in September and turned what should have been an exciting finish to the season into a snoozefest that I barely even want to play now.

vs Houston (W 6-5) - Jandel Gustave (67), David Paulino (66)
vs Houston (5-3) - Joe Musgrove (70)
vs LAA (W 6-5) - Ricky Nolasco (73)
vs LAA (W 3-0) - Nick Tropeano (72)
vs LAA (W 7-1) - Jesse Chavez (76)
at Texas (W 15-4) - Chi Chi Gonzalez (67), Mike Hauschild (66)
at Texas (W 5-3) - Matt Bush (86), Sam Dyson (79)
at Texas (W 6-1) - Connor Sadzeck (65)

As you can see the games with LAA weren't terrible but that's because the SP's they brought in out of the pen weren't terrible. They still completely ignored everyone in the pen as all 3 games saw the SP and then the LRP pitch the remainder of the game so they literally never pitched anyone out of the pen that they had used all season. Texas did the same thing other then the one game they were winning when they actually used Bush and Dyson. This is really bad imo, even with the score 3-1 last game they still wouldn't bring in any of the 4 RP's they have that are rated 80+ and to top it off instead of bringing in Darvish since apparently he isn't in the rotation anymore they let him rot in the pen and watch the garbage listed above blow the game wide open. Is nobody experiencing this or maybe hasn't gotten to September as of yet maybe?

[bryanm1982]

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The previous post I made regarding expanded rosters and pitching decisions is seriously starting to kill any and all realism. If a team is fighting for a playoff spot, more specifically, a team is leading the division heading into a series with the team that is right behind them in the standings, they don't completely ignore the regular bullpen guys and constantly bring in LRP's that were just called up when the rosters expanded. I will say that whenever the CPU is winning a game they will turn to the usual suspects but in 3 games with Texas I've been leading in 2 of them when they took the SP out and both times they brought in some garbage LRP who was previously down in the minors. The first time it was Chi Chi Gonzalez (67) and Mike Hauschild (66) and this last game it was Connor Sadzeck (65). These weren't blowout games either, the first time was when the SP got hurt before recording an out so it was 0-0 technically. The second time it was 3-1 heading into the top of the 7th. Both times the RP they brought in was gasoline on a fire, Gonzalez and Hauschild combined to give up 14 runs, Sadzeck came in and turned a 3-1 defecit into a 6-1 defecit and they refused to pull him. Now in the game sandwiched between these two Texas was winning 3-2 heading into the 8th when they pulled Andrew Cashner and brought in Matt Bush then Sam Dyson to close it out (granted he choked it away and lost them the game 5-3 but regardless they actually used the bullpen that helped get them into first place in the division).

I'm confused as I haven't seen anyone mention this but it's become a glaring issue. All I need is to build a lead, any size lead before the CPU SP gets pulled, and I know the CPU will bring in garbage and then it's damn near easy street from there. That's now 4 of my last 5 games where the CPU was losing and brought in a LRP that was just called up and all 4 times the CPU lost the game. If I go back to the series prior playing against Houston they brought in multiple guys as well that were called up when rosters expanded. I hate to beat a dead horse here but I'm close to simulating the entire month of September as this is getting absurd and has led to an 8 game winning streak, allowed me to go 11-1 so far in September and turned what should have been an exciting finish to the season into a snoozefest that I barely even want to play now.

vs Houston (W 6-5) - Jandel Gustave (67), David Paulino (66)
vs Houston (5-3) - Joe Musgrove (70)
vs LAA (W 6-5) - Ricky Nolasco (73)
vs LAA (W 3-0) - Nick Tropeano (72)
vs LAA (W 7-1) - Jesse Chavez (76)
at Texas (W 15-4) - Chi Chi Gonzalez (67), Mike Hauschild (66)
at Texas (W 5-3) - Matt Bush (86), Sam Dyson (79)
at Texas (W 6-1) - Connor Sadzeck (65)

As you can see the games with LAA weren't terrible but that's because the SP's they brought in out of the pen weren't terrible. They still completely ignored everyone in the pen as all 3 games saw the SP and then the LRP pitch the remainder of the game so they literally never pitched anyone out of the pen that they had used all season. Texas did the same thing other then the one game they were winning when they actually used Bush and Dyson. This is really bad imo, even with the score 3-1 last game they still wouldn't bring in any of the 4 RP's they have that are rated 80+ and to top it off instead of bringing in Darvish since apparently he isn't in the rotation anymore they let him rot in the pen and watch the garbage listed above blow the game wide open. Is nobody experiencing this or maybe hasn't gotten to September as of yet maybe?

I notice that too. I'm on the last week of the season and I noticed the teams were doing that too. I am the Pirates and I was 8 games back with 20 to go. I am leading the wildcard race so I wasn't expecting to catch the Cubs but I swept them to get within 5 games. They were putting in their rookie LRP in when the game would be tied or if they were behind. I have 30 team control so I went and put all the rookies to the extra RP spots and took them out of the LR spots. I know you can't do that. But I guess the only thing you can do is when they put the rookie in to switch users and replace them.

[The Chef]

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I notice that too. I'm on the last week of the season and I noticed the teams were doing that too. I am the Pirates and I was 8 games back with 20 to go. I am leading the wildcard race so I wasn't expecting to catch the Cubs but I swept them to get within 5 games. They were putting in their rookie LRP in when the game would be tied or if they were behind. I have 30 team control so I went and put all the rookies to the extra RP spots and took them out of the LR spots. I know you can't do that. But I guess the only thing you can do is when they put the rookie in to switch users and replace them.

The one year I don't use 30 team control and this happens lol. I really wish they would allow someone to simply "activate" 30 team control after starting or at the very least soemthing that allows me to go in and correct rotations and lineups for the CPU. I don't have any issues with lineup choices the CPU has made but this RP thing is just ridiculous. So if they are put in the extra RP spots they won't see the field? That would explain why Texas is letting Darvish sit in the pen rotting away instead of using him, granted they should have put him in the rotation when he was brought back from the DL but for whatever reason they didn't.

I'll have to switch sides and start micro-managing the CPU bullpen usage whenever the game is tied or I'm leading. I gotta admit it's getting a little old having to micro manage aspects of this game though.

[Councilmann_Jamm]

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So basically for 40 man call up. Don't call up anyone and keep rosters at 25.

[forme95]

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That is the way spring training is also. If the cpu bullpen has guys in the RP slots, they will not be played. They are just there as bodies. For HUM, we are smart enough to throw them into the mix. What I do is throw the lowest rated guys in there. Ones that wont really get a shot to play. For the CPU, you could rotate them in to the L/MRP slots as you see others get tired. However you have to remember to go through and move them back after a couple days. Another reason energy in the main menu lineup/rotations would be nice.