BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

[BYU 14]

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Well it was opening day in Baltimore and I lost 10-1. Only gave up 8 hits, but a hit batter, some walks, a wild pitch with a man on 3rd (who scored) and 3 HR which included a Grand Slam was just too much for my 4 hits.

Wind was 4 and the CPU had +1 pitch Control which gave them a 5.

How has the power been playing on 5. Now in the CPU's defense the HR they hit were almost in the center. Don't know my my pitcher keeps trying to throw down the middle????

I am liking it on 5, most HR's in a game with these new sliders (close to 30 games in) is 4, I have gone 3 games in a row with no HR and have allow no home runs in back to back games a couple of times. I am seeing a ration of about 4-1 in terms of shots that land in the first 5 rows, to no doubters and less than half the no doubters are over 400 feet (furthest with these sliders is 453 feet, already 10 longer than that in RL this season. I am still contemplating moving wind to 4, but want to get a 50 game sample and then decide. If I stay were I am now 1.1-1.3 per game for each team I will stay where I am now. You definitely get punished for leaving balls over the plate.

[bryanm1982]

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I posted this in Coach's thread but wanted to post here too.

Do you think we still need Hook at 1? The QC is fixed now with the pitchers. I have been playing with hook at 5 and pitchers are averaging about 90-110 pitches per game depending on the circumstances. One game they pitched a complete game shut out and had 120 pitches. Most starters I see going about 6-7 innings. What I'm worried about at 1 is the RP pitching too long. Thoughts?

[CoachModer]

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Orioles win Game 2 7-6 in 12 Innings. I had the lead twice and Zach Britton blew a 5-3 lead in the 9th and allowed Toronto to tie it. Toronto took a 6-5 lead in the 12th, but I scored two runs, first time I have seen this - one was on a wild pitch and the other was on a Passed Ball to win the game!

Orioles 9 hits, Toronto 7 Hits. Orioles smack 3 Hr to Toronto's 2.

Wind was 7 and +1 Base runner Speed.

[BYU 14]

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I posted this in Coach's thread but wanted to post here too.

Do you think we still need Hook at 1? The QC is fixed now with the pitchers. I have been playing with hook at 5 and pitchers are averaging about 90-110 pitches per game depending on the circumstances. One game they pitched a complete game shut out and had 120 pitches. Most starters I see going about 6-7 innings. What I'm worried about at 1 is the RP pitching too long. Thoughts?

That is an excellent point and most hurlers get a "leash" of 90-110 these days. Based on that I think using 5 is probably something to look at implementing. What are you using for endurance on starters and relievers, still the sliders in the OP?

[CoachModer]

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That is an excellent point and most hurlers get a "leash" of 90-110 these days. Based on that I think using 5 is probably something to look at implementing. What are you using for endurance on starters and relievers, still the sliders in the OP?

I still have the hook on 1 and starter stamina 8 and RS at 1. Seems okay Just played 3 games and saw my starter and the CPU starter start to really tire as they approached 100 pitches and then when I got another hit the CPU pulled Sabathia who I was starting to rock. I will keep an eye on it, but I have not seen anything yet at least on my end that would raise a red flag.

[CoachModer]

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Just played my 3rd game of the regular season vs. the Yankees and the O's came out on top 9-2. Backed by 6 HR, one was a bomb hit by Schoop that was 478 feet. O's are now 2-1. Yankees hit 2 HR. I had a season high 12 hits and gave up a season low of 5. I'k a season low of 6, I was a little more patient in the batters box you could say this game, but I only walked once.

So far I have 9 HR in 3 games and the CPU has 7. I will continue to keep an eye on this.

My mods for this game were OFA +1, Fld SPD +1 and Wind 4.

[CoachModer]

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Gotta love how these sliders are going. I lost 4-1 to the Yankees in the second game of 3. Nothing like the last game. I was held to 4 hits and only 1 was a HR by Schoop. I did hold the Yankees to no HR for the first time this season. They totaled 8 hits.

I thought I would do better. Modifiers were (-1 Start Stam CPU, -1 Control CPU and -1 Consis CPU) red joker card has all three -1 away, -1 Pi Control Human, IFA +1

[bryanm1982]

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I have my Starter and RP stamina as the OP. I like it there cause my better pitchers start to get tired at 90+ pitches and my rookie pitchers start to get tired at 80+.

Since you guys are AL teams, how long are your RP's going with hook at 1?

Do you believe the wind is effecting HR? I know Coach has it at 6 but others are saying 3. That could be a big difference.

[BYU 14]

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I have my Starter and RP stamina as the OP. I like it there cause my better pitchers start to get tired at 90+ pitches and my rookie pitchers start to get tired at 80+.

Since you guys are AL teams, how long are your RP's going with hook at 1?

Do you believe the wind is effecting HR? I know Coach has it at 6 but others are saying 3. That could be a big difference.

The only time I have seen crazy innings by a RP is in a blowout, so he was just left out there for cannon fodder. Nothing else has really jumped out. I am going to play with it at 3a few games and see if there are any noticeable differences.


I like wind at 5 so far, HR numbers are decent, but if I did move it I would go to 4, no lower and not higher as it really seems to have more of an effect with the new ball physics. Will be sticking on 5 until I get 50 games in with this update.

[CoachModer]

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I have my Starter and RP stamina as the OP. I like it there cause my better pitchers start to get tired at 90+ pitches and my rookie pitchers start to get tired at 80+.

Since you guys are AL teams, how long are your RP's going with hook at 1?

Do you believe the wind is effecting HR? I know Coach has it at 6 but others are saying 3. That could be a big difference.

So far with wind here is the combined totals through 5 games:

Wind 7x2 games = 8 HR
Wind 4x1 game = 5 HR
Wind 6x1 game = 1 HR
Wind 5x1 game = 7 HR

Not sure what is going one, but the ball is jumping off my bat and the CPU's. A hook of 1 is working good I have seen the CPU come in and pitch an inning or so not too bad.

So far here are my rankings through 5 games 2-3 record

BA (30th) .205
Runs (T-23) 23
Hits (30th) 35
2B (30th) 2
3B (T-8th) 2
HR (4th) 13
BB (25th) 15
K's (13th) 53

ERA (28th) 5.63
Hits Allowed (T-2nd) 44
Runs allowed (T-14th) 30
HR allowed (23rd) 11
BB allowed (20th) 25
K's (28th) 38

I am sort of at a loss here. What is everyone else seeing?

[bryanm1982]

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So far with wind here is the combined totals through 5 games:

Wind 7x2 games = 8 HR
Wind 4x1 game = 5 HR
Wind 6x1 game = 1 HR
Wind 5x1 game = 7 HR

Not sure what is going one, but the ball is jumping off my bat and the CPU's. A hook of 1 is working good I have seen the CPU come in and pitch an inning or so not too bad.


So far here are my rankings through 5 games 2-3 record

BA (30th) .205
Runs (T-23) 23
Hits (30th) 35
2B (30th) 2
3B (T-8th) 2
HR (4th) 13
BB (25th) 15
K's (13th) 53

ERA (28th) 5.63
Hits Allowed (T-2nd) 44
Runs allowed (T-14th) 30
HR allowed (23rd) 11
BB allowed (20th) 25
K's (28th) 38

I am sort of at a loss here. What is everyone else seeing?

Half of your hits are extra bases. More than 35% of them HR. I would hope more games would even it out more. Are you seeing a lot of bloop singles?

[bryanm1982]

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I played a exhibition game with the Yankees (me) against the Mariners. I did Gallardo against Severino. I didn't want the best pitchers pitching. Headley hit a 2 run homer in the 2nd and then Segura hit a 2 run HR and Haniger hit a solo shot right after to make it 3-2. Then in the 4th, Segura hit a RBI double and Zunino hit a 2 run single to make it 6-2 Mariners. Valencia hit a solo shot in the 5th to make it 7-2. In the 6th I hit 3 singles to load the bases followed by a sac fly by Headley and a 3 run homer by Judge to make it a 7-6 game. Gregorius followed with a solo shot right after to tie the game at 7 to knock out Gollargo.

Gallardo's line 5.1 IP, 9 H, 7 ER, 1 BB, 6 K's.
Severino's line 4 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 1 BB, 5 K's.

Yankees: 1 2B, 3 HR, 5 singles
Mariners: 3 2B, 3 HR, 6 singles

I'm concerned about the power. Some of those singles were line drives to the wall that the batter stayed at first. I'm wondering to lower power to 4 and raise solid hits to 5 to compensate?

[BYU 14]

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Dang, HR totals are definitely a tad high, but small sample for sure.
I think the two things we need to look at are wind (3 since that is having good results in other sets) and your idea of power 4/solid 5. I want to look at wind first since I like the variety of bloops/line drives/choppers, etc.


Hoping this is just due to sample size though as my totals are a bit more "in line" over a larger sample of games. This is especially frustrating given the fact that other numbers look pretty solid.

[bryanm1982]

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All the HR I hit were probably 1-4 rows up. Most of them the line drive shots that barely made it over the wall. There was probably only one no doubter and that was Judge's. I just don't want to lose offense. But I want the variety.

[bryanm1982]

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So I played a exhibition game with the Yankees and played the Royals. Montgomery against Hammels. I turned power down to 4 and bumped up solid hitting to 5 for both human and CPU.

Royals 0 7 0
Yankees 1 1 0

Royals: 6 singles, 1 triple, 2 BB, 4 K's
Yankees: 1 HR, 1 BB, 4 K's

My lone hit was a HR as you can see. I might lower human pitching control to 4 and bump up human solid hits to 6 to see if that changed anything. And it just might be the way I'm playing right now.