BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

BTW, played a game post patch, A's pitcher went 6 innings, 79 pitches and was lifted with a 1-0 lead, which is something I can see in that situation. CPU then went 1 pitcher each of the last 3 innings, ended up losing 2-0. I will be interested to see what happens with more early offense.

That could be a real life situation where the pitcher goes 6. And I can live with that. It totally is not okay when they take the pitcher out after 4 IP with a lead and doesn't give them a chance for the win.

I have been switching the controllers to make it better. But I think sometimes I do it when the CPU wouldn't have taken them out. Like they didn't have anybody up in the bullpen. I'm interested to see if they are bringing them in with nobody warming up? Example, the CPU is batting and you end the inning and go up to bat....if nobody was warming up in the bullpen, would they bring the SP back out?[/quote]


I'll play a couple more games tonight and hopefully it holds up, not confident based on feedback though.

[bryanm1982]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

Sounds like the game got worse reading the reviews. I just don't understand why they fixed things that didn't need fixed. Sliders can fix the HR problem. I'm not too concerned if I hit a 398 ft home run or a 480 ft home run. It is all the same.

It looks like they didn't fix what they needed to fix and made things that were working worse. Sure hope we don't have to wait another 5 weeks for them to fix what they broke. You would think they would test this out before releasing. Heck I would love that job.

[CoachModer]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

Sounds like the game got worse reading the reviews. I just don't understand why they fixed things that didn't need fixed. Sliders can fix the HR problem. I'm not too concerned if I hit a 398 ft home run or a 480 ft home run. It is all the same.

It looks like they didn't fix what they needed to fix and made things that were working worse. Sure hope we don't have to wait another 5 weeks for them to fix what they broke. You would think they would test this out before releasing. Heck I would love that job.

What were they trying to fix? That is why I don't like the patch because they always seem to screw up the game like the did late last year. People there have no clue about settings and it all about graphics and poor game play. That is why they put sliders out, because they want us the user to spend all year tuning and re-tuning and by the time you get a good set it's the next year and we start the entire process all over again. Think about it, when you have to turn down the timing to 1 and 0 and power, solid hits etc. there is an issue. The game was obviously not tested by people who play the game to get that real game simulation and feeling. Just a bunch of graphic techs and putting in numbers. If they had a game engine similar to Strat-o-matic baseball the game would be on point, but for now I will play MLB 17 tech rep and work with every other slider chase to correct MLB 17's issues that they do not take the time to work on nor care to do from year to year.

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

Second game with the patch didn't show much. I beat Baltimore 7-4, but had a 4-0 lead after 4 (3 runs in the 4th) and their starter had given up 7 hits and a walk. So MAYBE a case to pull him, though I think most teams would have let him start the 5th based on pitch count.


I haven't noticed any game play issues off two games, minus the fact that the catchers reaction to pitches in the dirt was not fixed. :|

[bryanm1982]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

I was facing the Marlins this morning and I was down 3-0 in the 7th and they pulled their starter after he hit my batter with 1 out. He had 80 some pitches so it was okay I think. I didn't switch the controllers all game. In the 6th they had someone warming up in the bullpen but never brought them in. I raised CP Starting stamina by one and lowered CP Hook to 0 to see if that makes it a little better.

I did actually give up some more offense.

Pirates 0 6 0
Marlins 3 8 0

I also raised my Solid Hits to 1 and thinking about doing that to the CPU as well. I was reading other posts that the patch kind of toned Solid Hits down. I had CPU Contact at 6, CPU Timing at 2. And Human Pitch Control at 2 and Consistency at 3.

[CoachModer]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

I was facing the Marlins this morning and I was down 3-0 in the 7th and they pulled their starter after he hit my batter with 1 out. He had 80 some pitches so it was okay I think. I didn't switch the controllers all game. In the 6th they had someone warming up in the bullpen but never brought them in. I raised CP Starting stamina by one and lowered CP Hook to 0 to see if that makes it a little better.

I did actually give up some more offense.

Pirates 0 6 0
Marlins 3 8 0

I also raised my Solid Hits to 1 and thinking about doing that to the CPU as well. I was reading other posts that the patch kind of toned Solid Hits down. I had CPU Contact at 6, CPU Timing at 2. And Human Pitch Control at 2 and Consistency at 3.

I think you are on to something with the starter stamina. I think that will help with getting pitchers deeper, maybe leave the hook where it is at first and see if you notice any change, if not I would then adjust the hook.

I have been reading other post too about the solid hits. I have not played post patch, but I am getting a Spring Training game going. Looks like everyone is on the same page with pushing them up to 5. I am going to give it a shot with BYU's set. Armor/sword recommended going up to, but they are on All Star pitching where this set his HOF - big difference.

[bryanm1982]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

I think you are on to something with the starter stamina. I think that will help with getting pitchers deeper, maybe leave the hook where it is at first and see if you notice any change, if not I would then adjust the hook.

I have been reading other post too about the solid hits. I have not played post patch, but I am getting a Spring Training game going. Looks like everyone is on the same page with pushing them up to 5. I am going to give it a shot with BYU's set. Armor/sword recommended going up to, but they are on All Star pitching where this set his HOF - big difference.

Yeah I agree. But they also have CPU power at 5 where we have it at 1. So it might even it out. Since I have been trying to make my pitching get a little tougher I might try to bump the Solid Hits to 5.

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

I am with you guys on solid hits, going to work it at 5 for human and CPU today and see how it comes out. Not changing power yet as the increase in solid hits should yield some line drive homeruns, so I want to play with that first. Will run these in my test Giants franchise and report back.

[CoachModer]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

Yeah I agree. But they also have CPU power at 5 where we have it at 1. So it might even it out. Since I have been trying to make my pitching get a little tougher I might try to bump the Solid Hits to 5.

I just played a Spring Training game vs. Toronto. I must say it felt different since the patch. I used BYU's sliders and bumped the Solid Hits to 5 for both me and the CPU and I left the Timing on 1 for the CPU. I won 3-1.
Hits BB K HR Error
Toronto 1 3 0 6 0 0
B-More 3 7 3 12 2 0

I believe I may bump the timing for both to 4 for the next game and see what happens. With the Contact at 5 for Human and 6 for CPU, and Power at 3 for both, and now solid hits at 5. I know that is not the issue so I am leaving them where they are because that should be good. My hitting is currently mid-way through Veteran +. I don't want to mess with the Pitch Control or Consistency right yet, because BYU is right when it comes to the HOF pitching. I am fine with the box score above, but the CPU just felt a little stagnant. Let me see how the timing works and I will go from there.

What else have you or anyone else noticed?

[CoachModer]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

Just played my next Spring Training game vs. Boston. Solid hits were still at 5 and timing was 4 for both. I did not use any of my modifiers as I wanted a straight up game to see the baseline sliders.

What I notice so far in two games is that there is no power coming off the ball even with the solid hits at 5. They appeared to be good hits but with no momentum behind them. I the power has been at 3 the past two games. I am going to adjust the power to 4 next game for both. The patch may be trying to get things back to base line? Thoughts?

After loading the bases in the bottom of 13, I walked in the winning run with two outs.

Final Score 3-2 Boston in 13 Innings. Where it was a good game overall the ball just was not coming off the bat as before the patch. I am not sure if anyone else has noticed this.

18 k's for me is the most since I started playing this year. I was trying to be patient and took at least 4 looking on boarding line pitches.

Hits BB K HR Error
B-more 2 7 3 18 0 1
Boston 3 10 2 9 0 0

[bryanm1982]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

Yeah maybe a increase in power would help it. Just hope there is a medium where 4 is too many HR and 3 is too low.

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

Just played my next Spring Training game vs. Boston. Solid hits were still at 5 and timing was 4 for both. I did not use any of my modifiers as I wanted a straight up game to see the baseline sliders.

What I notice so far in two games is that there is no power coming off the ball even with the solid hits at 5. They appeared to be good hits but with no momentum behind them. I the power has been at 3 the past two games. I am going to adjust the power to 4 next game for both. The patch may be trying to get things back to base line? Thoughts?

After loading the bases in the bottom of 13, I walked in the winning run with two outs.

Final Score 3-2 Boston in 13 Innings. Where it was a good game overall the ball just was not coming off the bat as before the patch. I am not sure if anyone else has noticed this.

18 k's for me is the most since I started playing this year. I was trying to be patient and took at least 4 looking on boarding line pitches.

Hits BB K HR Error
B-more 2 7 3 18 0 1
Boston 3 10 2 9 0 0

I will be curious to see what the power jump your next game. Played Giants vs. Padres in my testing franchise. (I am the Giants)


Made the following changes to OP sliders
Human and CPU solid hits to 5, CPU starter stamina to 7, Manager hook to 0.


Giants 4-11-0 2B 1, HR 1, BB 1, K 2
Padres 5-7-0 2B 1, HR1, BB 1, K 7


Trevor Cahill was cruising for the Padres, led 5-0 going in to the 6th and CPU pulled him with 1 out. I fought my way back and struck out with the bases loaded in the 9th. Not happy with Cahill getting pulled with that lead, I had 3 hits at the time. Their HR was a no doubter, mine barely cleared the glove of the CF, also put two more deep on the track that were caught. Hits seemed okay for me as both teams had a mix of hard hits and flairs. Going to play a couple more before I move power. Definitely had more ground balls in this one, though that just could be a coincidence.

[The Kid 24]

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BYU... Are you seeing errors with your sliders?

Just curious cuz Mike Lowe has the following for defense...

Fielding Errors Infield - 9
Fielding Errors Outfield - 7
Throwing Errors Infield - 9
Throwing Errors Outfield - 8
Fielder Run Speed – 2
Fielder Reaction - 5
Fielder Arm Strength Infield - 4
Fielder Arm Strength Outfield - 4

[bryanm1982]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

So he Cahill was pulled in the 6th with the Hook at 0? Sounds like it didn't help much.

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" quick count sliders for The Show 17

BYU... Are you seeing errors with your sliders?

Just curious cuz Mike Lowe has the following for defense...

Fielding Errors Infield - 9
Fielding Errors Outfield - 7
Throwing Errors Infield - 9
Throwing Errors Outfield - 8
Fielder Run Speed – 2
Fielder Reaction - 5
Fielder Arm Strength Infield - 4
Fielder Arm Strength Outfield - 4

I am but to be honest probably a bit low. I have been so focused on hitting and pitching that I haven't analyzed it in much detail. I will look at that over the next couple of days as I am going to have to change the hitting sliders due to the patch anyway, so I need to account for errors so I am only making one more update.