Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

[dowie]

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As you all know (if you've been following this thread), these sliders play incredible. It's hard too ask for much more.

Base Stealing success and frequency are really the only two things where I still have "head scratching" moments.

It seems like the cpu's success rate is easily 75% and likely more, whereas I am lucky to have a 30% success rate. Additionally, and I think this is a programming issue, the cpu never straight steals. It seems to always be a hit and run scenario with them.

I should probably stop being OCD and be happy the game plays as well as it does, but if anyone has any input I'd be all ears.

Dowie

[Hunkerdown]

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Couple of games in my Braves Reborn franchise I broadcast on youtube. 2 different games:

https://youtu.be/TY58V8rdHE8

https://youtu.be/RcLW5ohZDzk

I use Armors OP on Allstar, auto field and base running, and Quick counts.

PSN: GRINGOyGUAVA
YouTube: Hunkerdown/GRINGOyGUAVA

Madden 19 - Da Bears Franchise - year 1
The Show 18 - The Braves Reborn Franchise - year 1
FIFA or PES 19 - coming soon

[Winstoner71]

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L2 or R2 will scroll through the teams.


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Well that was dumb of me. Duh. Thanks!


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[Armor and Sword]

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Been a while since I updated here but my Yankees are now 4 games ahead of the Red Sox in the A.L East heading into August 23rd. I have been keeping pace with the real life schedule.

We have one more game vs The Marlins here.

Gary Sanchez is on the shelf with a strained hamstring (how ironic).

Judge is sitting at 52 HR's right now.

My starting pitching has been uneven (how ironic) and Verlander is finally settling in for me after making a trade for him in July. Sonny Gray has been struggling of late.


Division leaders are:

Yankees
Indians
Astros

Nationals
Cubs
Dodgers

No surprises in year 2.....and the separation of these division leaders from most of the league is pretty stark. The league is top heavy. Only the AL East is really close. Red Sox and the Blue Jays are hanging around and are both wild card teams as of right now.

I will start streaming games again this weekend! Look forward to seeing some of you on the broadcast.

[richnav]

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As a Red Sox fan I was like what!?!? They aren’t ahead of my Sox then I realized it’s your show stats lol


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[Gagnon39]

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I had the craziest game I’ve ever played last game. I beat the Cardinals 14-0. Absolutely crushed the ball. At one point I actually double-checked that somehow I hadn’t switched it to Rookie level or something. Absolutely killed the ball. It was nuts.


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[dowie]

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Hey Armor - did you ever start your Marlins franchise using the hybrid V2 or V3 rosters?

If so, please stream a game so I can see how that roster set plays with your fantastic sliders.

Dowie

[Armor and Sword]

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Hey Armor - did you ever start your Marlins franchise using the hybrid V2 or V3 rosters?



If so, please stream a game so I can see how that roster set plays with your fantastic sliders.



Dowie

Not yet. Once I finish Yankees Year 2 will begin that franchise along with a classic season TBD.

I will update here when the Hybrid V3 Marlins Rebuild begins.


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[Burgess]

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When you guys use 30-team control do you set lineups, pitching rotation, 25-man roster etc for the 29 cpu teams or do you let them “do their own thing”. Reason why I ask is that when I started my Yankees franchise and simmed to opening day things like Britton being in Baltimore’s rotation happened. Currently I spend the 2 hours going through all 30 teams to set rosters, batting orders and rotations. It’s a lot of work (especially for a guy who is nuts and starts their franchise over all the time)

[Gagnon39]

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After many, many, many games playing with these sliders (with only a few very minor tweaks) I think I might just need to play on All-Star. I know batting averages are not looked at as being as important as they used to be but mine are just abysmal. Baez is hitting around .210, Russell is in the .220's, Zobrist, Heyward, and pretty much anyone not named Bryant or Schwarber are all .240 at very best. Most .230's. Rizzo hovers around .250. I just don't hit. I hit home runs, but that's about it it seems.

Here's the problem that I've experienced with Hall of Fame.

Since directional is largely influenced by player ratings (which I very much so like) on Hall of Fame I'm just seeing WAY too many outs on "good," timing. Yes, I completely understand it happens. And I don't want a hit every each swing that's timed perfectly, but dang. It's just ridiculous. So, so many times just lazy pop-ups or weak grounders. And the amount of times that there's an actual hit on, "just late," or, "just early," simply isn't enough.

Essentially when using directional hitting the best we can do is try to give our hitters the best opportunity to get a hit. Meaning, the only input we have is when we swing as well as the influence we add. And again, I like that because it's more ratings based as opposed to zone (which is more user skill based). But the problem is that when moving up difficulties it just seems like the success rate of well-timed swings is lowered.

This is VERY much so a gross oversimplification but if we were to look at pitches down the middle with the same pitcher, the same batter, the same pitch, same swing influence, and "good," timing we should be seeing hits as follows:

Rookie = 70%
Veteran = 50%
All-Star = 40%
Hall of Fame = 30%
Legend = 20%

Again, I only use that illustration to make my point, I have absolutely no statistical data to back up those actual percentages. I'm just saying that when we time the pitch well I'm sure that we have less of a chance to actually get a hit on Hall of Fame than we do on All-Star.

The problem I continue to have is simple. I want more hits on, "good," and, "just early," and, "just late," timing. I don't want ANYTHING else to change on my game. I worry if I change the difficulty it will alter how the pitcher pitches, the speed, or any number of other things. I tried to play with timing up one click (for 3-5 games) and I just felt like I was cheating. I murdered the ball. One game I beat the Cardinals, 14-0. It was silly.

Anyway, I'm nearing the All-Star break and I'm starting to hit a wall out of frustration and I don't want to. I've been logging some serious time with The Show lately but it's become frustrating watching Baez, Russell put up 0-for-4's night in and night out, over, and over, and over, and over.

[awffltony77]

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After many, many, many games playing with these sliders (with only a few very minor tweaks) I think I might just need to play on All-Star. I know batting averages are not looked at as being as important as they used to be but mine are just abysmal. Baez is hitting around .210, Russell is in the .220's, Zobrist, Heyward, and pretty much anyone not named Bryant or Schwarber are all .240 at very best. Most .230's. Rizzo hovers around .250. I just don't hit. I hit home runs, but that's about it it seems.

Here's the problem that I've experienced with Hall of Fame.

Since directional is largely influenced by player ratings (which I very much so like) on Hall of Fame I'm just seeing WAY too many outs on "good," timing. Yes, I completely understand it happens. And I don't want a hit every each swing that's timed perfectly, but dang. It's just ridiculous. So, so many times just lazy pop-ups or weak grounders. And the amount of times that there's an actual hit on, "just late," or, "just early," simply isn't enough.

Essentially when using directional hitting the best we can do is try to give our hitters the best opportunity to get a hit. Meaning, the only input we have is when we swing as well as the influence we add. And again, I like that because it's more ratings based as opposed to zone (which is more user skill based). But the problem is that when moving up difficulties it just seems like the success rate of well-timed swings is lowered.

This is VERY much so a gross oversimplification but if we were to look at pitches down the middle with the same pitcher, the same batter, the same pitch, same swing influence, and "good," timing we should be seeing hits as follows:

Rookie = 70%
Veteran = 50%
All-Star = 40%
Hall of Fame = 30%
Legend = 20%

Again, I only use that illustration to make my point, I have absolutely no statistical data to back up those actual percentages. I'm just saying that when we time the pitch well I'm sure that we have less of a chance to actually get a hit on Hall of Fame than we do on All-Star.

The problem I continue to have is simple. I want more hits on, "good," and, "just early," and, "just late," timing. I don't want ANYTHING else to change on my game. I worry if I change the difficulty it will alter how the pitcher pitches, the speed, or any number of other things. I tried to play with timing up one click (for 3-5 games) and I just felt like I was cheating. I murdered the ball. One game I beat the Cardinals, 14-0. It was silly.

Anyway, I'm nearing the All-Star break and I'm starting to hit a wall out of frustration and I don't want to. I've been logging some serious time with The Show lately but it's become frustrating watching Baez, Russell put up 0-for-4's night in and night out, over, and over, and over, and over.

May I ask what Hitting View you use? I Feel like that makes a bigger difference than almost anything.

[Gagnon39]

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May I ask what Hitting View you use? I Feel like that makes a bigger difference than almost anything.

I use the MLB 15 camera.


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[Gagnon39]

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I use the MLB 15 camera.

But again, the issue isn’t that I’m not making, “good, contact enough. It’s that when I do I’m just not getting enough hits. Like I said, I don’t expect to get a hit every time I make, “good,” contact, nor would I want it to be that way, but it should be more often than what I’m seeing.

Essentially I’m looking for slider help that will ONLY increase my batting average, and in turn, my on-base percentage.

I tried to play a couple games on All-Star last night and there’s just too much that changes for my liking. The pitcher pitches differently, the pitch speed changes, etc. So it looks like my flip-flopping on what to do continues...


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[awffltony77]

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Well....if its to that point, try something different. Like I can make all sorts of good contact on Wide....but I have the same issues as you.

Try taking '15, and simply pulling the camera all the way back. Then try that with Retro, too. It sounds arbitrary, but it cured me of the same issues you are seeing.

I use standard Retro but every few games, I have to take a couple at bats pulled back, and a couple offset. Then I'm fine.

[Gagnon39]

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Well....if its to that point, try something different. Like I can make all sorts of good contact on Wide....but I have the same issues as you.



Try taking '15, and simply pulling the camera all the way back. Then try that with Retro, too. It sounds arbitrary, but it cured me of the same issues you are seeing.



I use standard Retro but every few games, I have to take a couple at bats pulled back, and a couple offset. Then I'm fine.

Nah, I’ve hit with this view (even before ‘15) for years. It’s what I’m good at. Again, my problem remains that I just simply don’t get enough hits on balls that I make, “good,” timing on. Plain and simple. I think I need a slider tweak.

Essentially, when we’re using directional the only thing we can really do is create, “good,” timing. Obviously, the direction is up to us as well, but as far as actual user input, on directional the timing of the user is paramount and the most important factor. When I have, “good,” timing often but only get hits on those pitches 15% of the time, they’re literally nothing I can do about it. I like directional because of the dice-roll/ratings aspect, that player ratings play a bigger role as opposed to user input, but I just need that dice roll to fall in my favor more often.

I’ve been looking back at some of my stats and really I feel I need two things, slightly fewer home runs (I lead the league and I’m an NL team and Schwarber is currently on pace for 63 home runs), and more base hits. I’m not sure which sliders to change to make that happen as I worry that changing one will affect another aspect of the game. That and I don’t want to feel like I’m cheating the computer.


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