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  • Mega0862
    Rookie
    • Apr 2017
    • 60

    #361
    Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

    Originally posted by kylesedlacko
    Yeah man, I use classic and I’m seeing great variations in my games. I play as the Padres, so my staff isn’t even remotely close to good. I’d say I give up about five runs a game on average, and I’ve seen three walk offs already from the cpu. Just yesterday I nearly pitched a no hitter with Joey Lucchesi, who is my #5 at the moment. Then I got obliterated using Lamet, who is my ace, against the Marlins of all teams. They chased him in the third inning after he gave up five runs in 2 and a third. Give it a try if you would like to, I’m thoroughly enjoying these at the moment.


    Nice man, thanks for the feedback. I'll give classic a try and see how it goes.


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    • bobloblah1980
      Rookie
      • Oct 2010
      • 459

      #362
      Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

      Originally posted by Mega0862
      Nice man, thanks for the feedback. I'll give classic a try and see how it goes.


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      • decga
        MVP
        • Mar 2004
        • 2469

        #363
        Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

        @Mike Lowe or anyone under his slider set, It's a small sample size of two games, but my BABIP avg is . 334. My first game was .393,13 hits,no HR's,35 AB,3 K's & 1 Sac fly. 2nd game .275, 8 hits, no HR's, 35 AB, 6 K's & no Sac flies.

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        • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
          MVP
          • Jun 2016
          • 1354

          #364
          Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

          Originally posted by decga
          @Mike Lowe or anyone under his slider set, It's a small sample size of two games, but my BABIP avg is . 334. My first game was .393,13 hits,no HR's,35 AB,3 K's & 1 Sac fly. 2nd game .275, 8 hits, no HR's, 35 AB, 6 K's & no Sac flies.
          Give it time, as you said it's an extremely small sample size (to say the least). You will have games with close to .500 babip and others in the .100 range. Babip is one of the longer stats to take to stabilize so calculating a one or two game babip is essentially completely fruitless, as it basically tells you nothing. Nothing useful can be gained or learned from it, other than to satisfy curiosity.

          Using Babip short term is like measuring a marathon runner's ability after only 40 yards.

          This statistic may start taking form after 10 or 15 or so games, but it could even take much longer to see the true results. If your team goes through a hot or cold, or lucky or unlucky streak, babip will lie to you, making you think it's too high or too low.

          I've seen a lot of people here give their single-game babips but I havent seen anyone post their babip for 10 or 20 games or more (which is literally the only way to use this statistic) while using only this slider set.

          After 20 or so games, some users should be seeing over .300 babip, while others are below .300, with the average babip of all users combined falling around .300 even, given a good amount of users.

          That being said, you should eventually start striking out more, which will cause babip to go up, and, hopefully, start hitting home runs at a decent rate, which will lower babip.
          Last edited by NolanRyansSnowmonkey; 05-01-2018, 11:56 AM.

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          • decga
            MVP
            • Mar 2004
            • 2469

            #365
            Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

            Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
            Give it time, as you said it's an extremely small sample size (to say the least). You will have games with close to .500 babip and others in the .100 range. Babip is one of the longer stats to take to stabilize so calculating a one or two game babip is essentially completely fruitless, as it basically tells you nothing. Nothing useful can be gained or learned from it, other than to satisfy curiosity.

            Using Babip short term is like measuring a marathon runner's ability after only 40 yards.

            This statistic may start taking form after 10 or 15 or so games, but it could even take much longer to see the true results. If your team goes through a hot or cold, or lucky or unlucky streak, babip will lie to you, making you think it's too high or too low.

            I've seen a lot of people here give their single-game babips but I havent seen anyone post their babip for 10 or 20 games or more (which is literally the only way to use this statistic) while using only this slider set.

            After 20 or so games, some users should be seeing over .300 babip, while others are below .300, with the average babip of all users combined falling around .300 even, given a good amount of users.

            That being said, you should eventually start striking out more, which will cause babip to go up, and, hopefully, start hitting home runs at a decent rate, which will lower babip.
            Thanks again!

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            • cubbies1744
              Rookie
              • Jul 2015
              • 356

              #366
              Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

              Is anyone having problems with there foul and swing and misses percentages for both human and cpu?

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              • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                MVP
                • Jun 2016
                • 1354

                #367
                Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                Originally posted by cubbies1744
                Is anyone having problems with there foul and swing and misses percentages for both human and cpu?
                What are you seeing for human?

                The proposed foul % target of 15% is per pitch, so it's only good if you're swinging at less than half of total pitches. Foul % will go up with your swing %. (i.e. If you swing at every single pitch of the game, you may end up fouling off 40% of pitches) Since swing percentage is completely dependent upon the user, sliders will never directly change Swing%. So if you are swinging at too many pitches, that will drive your foul%, and miss% higher, since you will naturally not be seeing as many hittable pitches, and missing more.

                The 15% foul percentage target (it was actually closer to 18% in 2017 I think) is only good if you are swinging at an acceptable rate (most people dont) To see a better idea of how often you personally are fouling off pitches, you should look at foul% per swing, which should be closer to 40% I believe.

                If you are missing too many, you could also check how often you are swinging and try to keep it under 50%. This makes you more selective to where you are looking for more hittable pitches. If you are not swinging too often, I would suggest maybe bumping up the timing slider a notch if it doesnt lower your strikeout rate too much.
                Last edited by NolanRyansSnowmonkey; 05-02-2018, 06:29 PM.

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                • Mike Lowe
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 5286

                  #368
                  Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                  Originally posted by JaFFiTh
                  I just tested it. It seems ok, other than the damn innings played by the LR, and the lone setup men gets like 30-50 holds! They’re usually around mid 20’s to maybe 30 for most IRL. Can’t win there lol.


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                  Well, I know for certain my process of sliders plus using no LR works out well over a simmed season.

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                  • Mike Lowe
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 5286

                    #369
                    Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                    First post updated to v1.3. I plan to do an offseason recap stream (for my Marlins carryover save) either tonight or tomorrow night.

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                    • Mike Lowe
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 5286

                      #370
                      Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                      Originally posted by decga
                      @Mike Lowe; I have question about the BABIP Calculation. Is is just for Sac fly's or all sacrifice contacts? For example, sac bunts & hits.
                      Just sac flies.
                      Last edited by Mike Lowe; 05-02-2018, 07:22 PM.

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                      • Mike Lowe
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 5286

                        #371
                        Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                        Going to do a quick offseason recap stream right now and chat about v1
                        3. Stream after that will be Opening Day 2018!

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                        • louthedew
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 52

                          #372
                          Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                          Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                          Going to do a quick offseason recap stream right now and chat about v1
                          3. Stream after that will be Opening Day 2018!

                          www.youtube.com/MikeLowe47
                          Hey, just wanted to say I enjoyed that off-season stream. Hopefully when I get to the off-season with my new franchise I will remember some of the thoughts you had regarding your approach. Seems even though your team was mostly the same, you got more solid depth which was a cool way to approach it. Anywho, thanks for doing that!

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                          • cubbies1744
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 356

                            #373
                            Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                            Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                            What are you seeing for human?

                            The proposed foul % target of 15% is per pitch, so it's only good if you're swinging at less than half of total pitches. Foul % will go up with your swing %. (i.e. If you swing at every single pitch of the game, you may end up fouling off 40% of pitches) Since swing percentage is completely dependent upon the user, sliders will never directly change Swing%. So if you are swinging at too many pitches, that will drive your foul%, and miss% higher, since you will naturally not be seeing as many hittable pitches, and missing more.

                            The 15% foul percentage target (it was actually closer to 18% in 2017 I think) is only good if you are swinging at an acceptable rate (most people dont) To see a better idea of how often you personally are fouling off pitches, you should look at foul% per swing, which should be closer to 40% I believe.

                            If you are missing too many, you could also check how often you are swinging and try to keep it under 50%. This makes you more selective to where you are looking for more hittable pitches. If you are not swinging too often, I would suggest maybe bumping up the timing slider a notch if it doesnt lower your strikeout rate too much.
                            I take a lot of pitches and I usually take the first pitch of every at bat and the second one if the first is a ball my swing and misses are on point and around 20% as is the CPU most of the time but every game both mine and the CPU foul percentages will be a crazy number around 30% and up only had one game in which we both were down around 23% but in that game our swing and missed were up to close t0 28%. Not sure what it is I am doing wrong I mean I am taking pitches and being patient but it seems like when I get to a 2 strike count I never strike out immediately without fouling a few pitches off

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                            • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 1354

                              #374
                              Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                              Originally posted by cubbies1744
                              I take a lot of pitches and I usually take the first pitch of every at bat and the second one if the first is a ball my swing and misses are on point and around 20% as is the CPU most of the time but every game both mine and the CPU foul percentages will be a crazy number around 30% and up only had one game in which we both were down around 23% but in that game our swing and missed were up to close t0 28%. Not sure what it is I am doing wrong I mean I am taking pitches and being patient but it seems like when I get to a 2 strike count I never strike out immediately without fouling a few pitches off

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                              If you are using contact swing with 2 strikes, obviously it could potentially cause that i suppose. But I'm assuming you're not...

                              How many games are we talking that you've seen this?

                              Are you certain you are looking at the foul percentage when every item on the list says 'ALL'?

                              If you are looking at foul percentage with the bottom option set to 'Swung' you should have numbers at least closer to what you are describing.

                              With your numbers that high on 'ALL', I'm curious to see how high the number is on 'Swung' since it would have to be close to 60% I would think.

                              30% foul balls would be around 44 foul balls if you see 145 total pitches. Which means if you swung at 50-ish% of total pitches, lets say 73, you would only put the ball into play, or swing and miss, 29 times.

                              If you swing and miss 20% (15 times), that would mean you're hitting the ball fair only 14 times all game long. Since there are usually 27 outs in a game, seems like you would be striking out at least 13 times, or hit into multiple double plays, if most or every ball in play became an out.

                              Also if you have a perfectly average .300 babip, with these numbers, you would only see just over 4 base hits per game, and your batting average would be abismal.

                              If by chance you are only seeing 100 pitches per game, these numbers will even worse.

                              There are other ways but i doubt you would have stuck with these sliders more than a couple of games if that scenario took place.

                              Can you post some actual numbers because its hard to know exactly what is happening.

                              You're obviously seeing something that doesnt feel or look right to you, it doesnt mesn you are doing anything necessarily wrong, it may just be a slight slider adjustment you need, so hopefully we can help out.

                              But first of all make sure youre looking at 'ALL', not 'Swung'...
                              Last edited by NolanRyansSnowmonkey; 05-03-2018, 11:24 AM.

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                              • cubbies1744
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2015
                                • 356

                                #375
                                Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '18 Sliders

                                Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                                If you are using contact swing with 2 strikes, obviously it could potentially cause that i suppose. But I'm assuming you're not...

                                How many games are we talking that you've seen this?

                                Are you certain you are looking at the foul percentage when every item on the list says 'ALL'?

                                If you are looking at foul percentage with the bottom option set to 'Swung' you should have numbers at least closer to what you are describing.

                                With your numbers that high on 'ALL', I'm curious to see how high the number is on 'Swung' since it would have to be close to 60% I would think.

                                30% foul balls would be around 44 foul balls if you see 145 total pitches. Which means if you swung at 50-ish% of total pitches, lets say 73, you would only put the ball into play, or swing and miss, 29 times.

                                If you swing and miss 20% (15 times), that would mean you're hitting the ball fair only 14 times all game long. Since there are usually 27 outs in a game, seems like you would be striking out at least 13 times, or hit into multiple double plays, if most or every ball in play became an out.

                                Also if you have a perfectly average .300 babip, with these numbers, you would only see just over 4 base hits per game, and your batting average would be abismal.

                                If by chance you are only seeing 100 pitches per game, these numbers will even worse.

                                There are other ways but i doubt you would have stuck with these sliders more than a couple of games if that scenario took place.

                                Can you post some actual numbers because its hard to know exactly what is happening.

                                You're obviously seeing something that doesnt feel or look right to you, it doesnt mesn you are doing anything necessarily wrong, it may just be a slight slider adjustment you need, so hopefully we can help out.

                                But first of all make sure youre looking at 'ALL', not 'Swung'...
                                I will post my next game stats as soon as I am done with it. So you can try to figure out what's going on

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