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  • Gagnon39
    Windy City Sports Fan
    • Mar 2003
    • 8544

    #736
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

    Originally posted by tc020791
    I don’t disagree that I’d still walk some. But it would definitely result in fewer walks issued, and I already don’t walk a lot of batters. I like it when, although it’s rare, when I Issue a 4-pitch walk. Just can’t find the zone. With control at 5 I feel like I could always throw a strike when I needed to.



    In regards to just tapping the button for a pitch, I rarely do that. Maybe I need to, I either hold it for about a second or hold until rumble.





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    Two things jump out at me from your last few posts. To start, you're dead last in walks, that's a red flag right there. If you're last in walks and last in K's you're so obviously pounding the strike zone way way too much. You have to throw garbage with two strikes and not be afraid to get into 3-2 counts or walk guys. Second thing I noticed was your button pushing method. From my experience you either need to tap or hold until vibration, nothing in between. When you tap you have less velocity and break but more control. I use the tap alot on 0-0 counts. When you hold until vibration, which is technically any hold longer than a tap, you put yourself at risk. If you hit the vibration perfectly you get great velocity and break, on top of good control. If you dont hit the vibration right on the money, you will get a bad pitch alot of the times. Pretty much the worst thing you could do on classic pitching is hold the button and let go before you feel any vibration. You're not maxing out velocity or break by letting up early, and then also by not timing it right you're messing with your control as well.[/QUOTE]



    That is interesting about the vibration. Not saying I don’t believe you, but has this ever been discussed and confirmed by the developers? That’s one thing that is sometimes frustrating, as good as the developers typically are in reaching out to the community, they’ve never really provided (at least that I’m aware of) a definitive description of how certain things work. Warmwind’s writeup on how directional hitting works is good, but in reality it’s just from his personal experience. I’d love to hear, directly from the developers how classic pitching works.

    I’ll be honest, I’ve never heard of having to time the vibration. But that’s an interesting concept that kin of makes sense. I’ll give that a go.

    So you’re saying you benefit hold for a second before vibration on purpose, correct? It’s either tap or try to hold until perfectly timed?


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    • tc020791
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 2012

      #737
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by Gagnon39
      Two things jump out at me from your last few posts. To start, you're dead last in walks, that's a red flag right there. If you're last in walks and last in K's you're so obviously pounding the strike zone way way too much. You have to throw garbage with two strikes and not be afraid to get into 3-2 counts or walk guys. Second thing I noticed was your button pushing method. From my experience you either need to tap or hold until vibration, nothing in between. When you tap you have less velocity and break but more control. I use the tap alot on 0-0 counts. When you hold until vibration, which is technically any hold longer than a tap, you put yourself at risk. If you hit the vibration perfectly you get great velocity and break, on top of good control. If you dont hit the vibration right on the money, you will get a bad pitch alot of the times. Pretty much the worst thing you could do on classic pitching is hold the button and let go before you feel any vibration. You're not maxing out velocity or break by letting up early, and then also by not timing it right you're messing with your control as well.


      That is interesting about the vibration. Not saying I don’t believe you, but has this ever been discussed and confirmed by the developers? That’s one thing that is sometimes frustrating, as good as the developers typically are in reaching out to the community, they’ve never really provided (at least that I’m aware of) a definitive description of how certain things work. Warmwind’s writeup on how directional hitting works is good, but in reality it’s just from his personal experience. I’d love to hear, directly from the developers how classic pitching works.

      I’ll be honest, I’ve never heard of having to time the vibration. But that’s an interesting concept that kin of makes sense. I’ll give that a go.

      So you’re saying you benefit hold for a second before vibration on purpose, correct? It’s either tap or try to hold until perfectly timed?


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      Correct, nothing in between. From my experience, perfect timing happens right when the very first feeling of vibration happens. Have to be very quick on your release, if you hold too long and get a long vibration you will over throw your pitch.

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      • spacebubbles
        Rookie
        • Mar 2017
        • 30

        #738
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

        if been looking in to the classic pitching for quite a while with vibration and location plus pitch types. and people have oversimplified the mechanics. no matter what there a roll of the dice mechanic in play .like drectional hitting your just influencing the direction location



        example: catcher calls a fast ball low away . i go up in the strike zone till
        i feel the vibration of the ps4 pad bascially the batter belt .pres x for the fastball hold down till vibration let go of the button and its will try to go to that location the pitcher called .but like i said random number generator is n play and depends on pitcher and how he is playing at the time.
        when virbration is off i count to max 3 speed and let go.i have been playing wthis set up since mlb 18and19 ive been on ALLSTAR and Hall of fame . wthis set up and it works for me . but it might not work for you.
        (if using vibration what til the pad vibrate let go of the button)
        LHP means left handed pitcher. defualt is right handed pitcher

        fastballs speed 3 seconds max speed

        4-Seam Fastball (4SFB) up
        2-Seam Fastball (2SFB) up
        Cutter (CUT) left.(LHP RIGHT
        Sinker (SNK) Down-right (LHP down-left)
        Splitter (SPL) Down
        Runnning Fastball(RFB) right (LHP left)

        BREAKING BALLS balls tap THE BUTTON
        Curveball (CB) Down-left (LHP Down-right)
        12-6 curvball (12CV) Down-left (LHP Down-right)
        Knuckle Curve (KNCV) Down-left (LHP Down-right)
        Screwball (SCR) Down-right (LHP down-left)
        Slider (SL) left (LHP right)
        Slurve (SLV) Down-left (LHP Down-right)
        sweeping curvball (SCV) Down-left (LHP Down-right)

        CHANGE UPS 2 seconds
        Circle Changeup (CIR) Down
        Forkball (FRK) Down
        Palmball (PLM) Down
        Changeup (CH) Down
        vulcan change(VCH) down





        THIS MY SIMPLE PITCHING AND EVEN MY GF CAN DO THIS AND SUCCEEDS DUAL FRANCHISE CUBS AND TEXAS RANGERS
        armours slider the best

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        • rlb1976
          Pro
          • Nov 2013
          • 617

          #739
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

          Originally posted by spacebubbles
          if been looking in to the classic pitching for quite a while with vibration and location plus pitch types. and people have oversimplified the mechanics. no matter what there a roll of the dice mechanic in play .like drectional hitting your just influencing the direction location



          example: catcher calls a fast ball low away . i go up in the strike zone till
          i feel the vibration of the ps4 pad bascially the batter belt .pres x for the fastball hold down till vibration let go of the button and its will try to go to that location the pitcher called .but like i said random number generator is n play and depends on pitcher and how he is playing at the time.
          when virbration is off i count to max 3 speed and let go.i have been playing wthis set up since mlb 18and19 ive been on ALLSTAR and Hall of fame . wthis set up and it works for me . but it might not work for you.
          (if using vibration what til the pad vibrate let go of the button)
          LHP means left handed pitcher. defualt is right handed pitcher

          fastballs speed 3 seconds max speed

          4-Seam Fastball (4SFB) up
          2-Seam Fastball (2SFB) up
          Cutter (CUT) left.(LHP RIGHT
          Sinker (SNK) Down-right (LHP down-left)
          Splitter (SPL) Down
          Runnning Fastball(RFB) right (LHP left)

          BREAKING BALLS balls tap THE BUTTON
          Curveball (CB) Down-left (LHP Down-right)
          12-6 curvball (12CV) Down-left (LHP Down-right)
          Knuckle Curve (KNCV) Down-left (LHP Down-right)
          Screwball (SCR) Down-right (LHP down-left)
          Slider (SL) left (LHP right)
          Slurve (SLV) Down-left (LHP Down-right)
          sweeping curvball (SCV) Down-left (LHP Down-right)

          CHANGE UPS 2 seconds
          Circle Changeup (CIR) Down
          Forkball (FRK) Down
          Palmball (PLM) Down
          Changeup (CH) Down
          vulcan change(VCH) down





          THIS MY SIMPLE PITCHING AND EVEN MY GF CAN DO THIS AND SUCCEEDS DUAL FRANCHISE CUBS AND TEXAS RANGERS
          armours slider the best
          The vibration everyone talks about is like seeing an alien for me. I've never actually seen one and I've never felt the vibration. That's why classic is confusing to me. There's vibration when I'm picking my location. Not with the button press.

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          • tc020791
            MVP
            • Sep 2010
            • 2012

            #740
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

            Gagnon I hate to do this to you. Huge disclaimer though, this was definitely my best pitched game in the test franchise I’ve been playing. Darvish was just filthy.

            Darvish - 6.1 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 10 K, 105 pitches (for anyone who cant see attachment)

            Cubs (team) - 8.0 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 5 BB, 14 K

            ap_081023CA-7DBC-4290-8340-02820AC5730F.jpeg
            Last edited by tc020791; 04-21-2019, 03:21 PM.

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            • Burgess
              MVP
              • Oct 2015
              • 1015

              #741
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

              I have to swallow my pride and move pitch speeds down to 4/4. Was on 6/7 last year but this year seems a lot faster. Do others think so as well? I’m behind on every fastball over 90 mph
              Yankees modern day
              Phillies modern day

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              • Gagnon39
                Windy City Sports Fan
                • Mar 2003
                • 8544

                #742
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                Originally posted by tc020791
                Gagnon I hate to do this to you. Huge disclaimer though, this was definitely my best pitched game in the test franchise I’ve been playing. Darvish was just filthy.

                Darvish - 6.1 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 10 K, 105 pitches (for anyone who cant see attachment)

                Cubs (team) - 8.0 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 5 BB, 14 K

                [ATTACH]163408[/ATTACH]


                Nah, that’s what I want to see. That it can happen. However, do you get consistent enough results to be in the top 10 in strikeouts or are you in the bottom teir?


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                • Gagnon39
                  Windy City Sports Fan
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 8544

                  #743
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                  How many of you all are playing with human solid hits at 4?


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                  • rlb1976
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 617

                    #744
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                    I have an interesting result to share with everyone. I've been complaining about classic not working for me. Well I just pitched my best game by far on classic while experimenting with something. What I did was with my fastballs I held the button all the way through the pitch to fantastic results. Breaking stuff I pressed the button. Not what I'd call a tap, but just past a tap. Also fantastic results. My starter Charlie Morton went 6.2 IP 5H 9K 0ER 1BB. My relievers also pitched well with this method and I won 1-0. 13 combined Ks vs Colorado.

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                    • rlb1976
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 617

                      #745
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by Gagnon39
                      How many of you all are playing with human solid hits at 4?


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                      I am on all-star and I kinda suck 😂. My fault though. I'm still swinging at dumb stuff too often.

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                      • Armor and Sword
                        The Lama
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21798

                        #746
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                        Originally posted by rlb1976
                        I have an interesting result to share with everyone. I've been complaining about classic not working for me. Well I just pitched my best game by far on classic while experimenting with something. What I did was with my fastballs I held the button all the way through the pitch to fantastic results. Breaking stuff I pressed the button. Not what I'd call a tap, but just past a tap. Also fantastic results. My starter Charlie Morton went 6.2 IP 5H 9K 0ER 1BB. My relievers also pitched well with this method and I won 1-0. 13 combined Ks vs Colorado.


                        Stick with it. It is a total “feel” approach. And every pitcher has a different “feel” with different pitches. Its awesome.

                        Also remember if you use max effort often you will tire out much quicker.


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                        • rlb1976
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 617

                          #747
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                          Stick with it. It is a total “feel” approach. And every pitcher has a different “feel” with different pitches. Its awesome.

                          Also remember if you use max effort often you will tire out much quicker.


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                          I only held it all the way through on fastballs. I haven't seen anyone else say they hold the button all the way to the catchers glove. That's what worked though. Every other method my pitchers control was horrible. Felt like I'm on to something 😂.

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                          • No.27
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 543

                            #748
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                            Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                            They Yankees finally won 2 in a row!

                            In game 3 of our three game set vs the White Sox Brett Gardner hit a dramatic 3R HR to give the Yankees a 4-3 lead in the bottom of the 8th!

                            The Fictional Oakland A’s lost a tough 4-3 opening day game vs the Mariners.

                            All I can say is “Wow” on Bacons fictional Roster.

                            It opens up so many new animations I have yet to see on 19.

                            I can see these two franchises along with my 1987 Yankees reboot and MTO are going to consume my gaming for the next year easy.

                            19 is simply owning my soul. Will be on soon to stream Yankees vs Red Sox!!!

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                            I’ll second a thumbs up for Bacons Roster as well. It’s getting most of my playtime over the excellent FM. Your right about the animations Bacon has created some sort of magic with the ratings. My Red Sox were a whisper away from pulling off a triple play the other night. Exciting stuff.

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                            • kamackeris76
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1670

                              #749
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                              Originally posted by rlb1976
                              The vibration everyone talks about is like seeing an alien for me. I've never actually seen one and I've never felt the vibration. That's why classic is confusing to me. There's vibration when I'm picking my location. Not with the button press.
                              Yeah I've been reading the thread and I've been wondering about the vibration... I get it when aiming but not when pressing the pitch button... What's going on?

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                              • rlb1976
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 617

                                #750
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by kamackeris76
                                Yeah I've been reading the thread and I've been wondering about the vibration... I get it when aiming but not when pressing the pitch button... What's going on?

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                                Not sure but the method I used in my last game worked like a dream.

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