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  • JoshC1977
    All Star
    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #1876
    Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

    Originally posted by rlb1976
    Would you say it's best to vary the press or is there a definite release point for each pitcher? I've heard it both ways. From my experience tapping the button will get you rocked quick.
    You have to know what duration to use for each pitcher and each pitch for that pitcher. That varies game to game too depending on confidence levels. It varies also on where you're throwing the pitch and what kind of pitch you want to throw in that instance.

    It's complex...you REALLY have to know your pitching staff. It's just a lot of practice with your roster and getting to know them. Sometimes the first inning or two is a "feel things out" period....just like real life...you have to figure out what's working. It's why you play every pitch of every game...get that time and experience...

    (sidebar: call your own pitches...)
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    • rlb1976
      Pro
      • Nov 2013
      • 617

      #1877
      Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

      Originally posted by JoshC1977
      You have to know what duration to use for each pitcher and each pitch for that pitcher. That varies game to game too depending on confidence levels. It varies also on where you're throwing the pitch and what kind of pitch you want to throw in that instance.

      It's complex...you REALLY have to know your pitching staff. It's just a lot of practice with your roster and getting to know them. Sometimes the first inning or two is a "feel things out" period....just like real life...you have to figure out what's working. It's why you play every pitch of every game...get that time and experience...

      (sidebar: call your own pitches...)
      My best pitching games have come when I can pinpoint a point in the pitcher's pitching motion to release the ball, but even that doesn't always work. The holding for a 1 second thing has given me varied results. Sometimes it feels good other times it doesn't. That's kinda what has bugged me about classic. You can get a completely different answer depending who you ask.

      So you recommend always calling my own pitches?

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      • Burgess
        MVP
        • Oct 2015
        • 1015

        #1878
        Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

        Originally posted by titanswin53
        I use to be as bad. I'd start over constantly due to Slider changes, updated Rosters, Minors etc. I guess with not having a IRL Season(Yet) I've stuck with the Chise I have going....and I've enjoyed it more than any other time I've played the Show.

        I'm loving the story that's playing out in my Franchise and how the games play. Harper having a Triple Crown/MVP year, and yet the Nats are right on our tails for the Division.

        As much as I enjoyed playing 19, 20 has been even more incredible. Once I got out of the habit of worrying about making sure Rosters were realistic to the T, Sliders, and Stats being as close to IRL as possibly, it's made 20 one of my most favorite games for the last couple years.
        Thanks for your response and encouragement. I’m about to start my franchises over again. Hopefully I can get through the season - this time!!
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        • bcruise
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2004
          • 23274

          #1879
          Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

          Originally posted by rlb1976
          My best pitching games have come when I can pinpoint a point in the pitcher's pitching motion to release the ball, but even that doesn't always work. The holding for a 1 second thing has given me varied results. Sometimes it feels good other times it doesn't. That's kinda what has bugged me about classic. You can get a completely different answer depending who you ask.

          So you recommend always calling my own pitches?
          The advice in the in-game strategy guide says that API can be a good tool for beginners, but advanced players will want to develop their own strategy and tailor their picks against their opponent. It's up to you which side of that spectrum you fall on, but here's my interpretation of that line:

          API disappears on its "default" setting on All Star difficulty and above - that is, it doesn't highlight the pitch type and suggested location unless you press R2. I believe there's a reason for that, and that reason lies in the strategy guide stuff I just mentioned - Above Veteran difficulty you're assumed to have enough familiarity with the game that you should be calling your own game. If you try to pitch exactly to the API on those levels, especially HOF or Legend, You. Will. Get. HAMMERED.

          For my part, I do pay attention to the hand signals and locations my catcher is putting down and will usually call the pitch type he suggests (it does a pretty good job of getting the fastball-to-offspeed ratio correct most of the time), but for location I usually wing it. I know that slow pitches that break away and down from hitters shouldn't be intentionally in the zone, so i aim far enough out that the pitch is more likely to land outside of the strike zone than it is to land in the middle. Usually that ends up being much further out than the API would have suggested, but that's perfectly fine if you have balls in the count to use, and it's even better if you get the batter to chase something and miss.

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          • GainzBro
            Pro
            • Jul 2019
            • 680

            #1880
            Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

            Originally posted by rlb1976
            I hope lol. I'm getting next to no swings and misses. I'm on my way to five straight losses with the updated set.
            I'm striking out far more batters since the update. But who knows? Could just be a hot streak from my staff. However in spite of the K's I'm getting knocked around pretty good.

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            • Burgess
              MVP
              • Oct 2015
              • 1015

              #1881
              Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

              Originally posted by bcruise
              The advice in the in-game strategy guide says that API can be a good tool for beginners, but advanced players will want to develop their own strategy and tailor their picks against their opponent. It's up to you which side of that spectrum you fall on, but here's my interpretation of that line:

              API disappears on its "default" setting on All Star difficulty and above - that is, it doesn't highlight the pitch type and suggested location unless you press R2. I believe there's a reason for that, and that reason lies in the strategy guide stuff I just mentioned - Above Veteran difficulty you're assumed to have enough familiarity with the game that you should be calling your own game. If you try to pitch exactly to the API on those levels, especially HOF or Legend, You. Will. Get. HAMMERED.

              For my part, I do pay attention to the hand signals and locations my catcher is putting down and will usually call the pitch type he suggests (it does a pretty good job of getting the fastball-to-offspeed ratio correct most of the time), but for location I usually wing it. I know that slow pitches that break away and down from hitters shouldn't be intentionally in the zone, so i aim far enough out that the pitch is more likely to land outside of the strike zone than it is to land in the middle. Usually that ends up being much further out than the API would have suggested, but that's perfectly fine if you have balls in the count to use, and it's even better if you get the batter to chase something and miss.
              I’m finding that every game is different. Some games the catcher calls a really good game and I have success listening to his pitch and location around 90% of the time.

              And then the next game could be completely different and I might follow him completely only around 70% of the time or agree with his pitch call but not location or vice versa. Of course there are times when I call my own pitch and give up a homer and I think “I guess I should have listened to the catcher”!
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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21788

                #1882
                Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                Originally posted by rlb1976
                Oh I'm sure the problem is just me. I normally go with my catchers call and since the update I have sucked at pitching. I was good not great before the update. Playing the way I'd been playing simply doesn't work. anymore. Game I just finished I had 3ks total.


                Yeah you gotta call your own game. Of nit your are glutting for punishment.


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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21788

                  #1883
                  Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                  Originally posted by Burgess
                  I’m finding that every game is different. Some games the catcher calls a really good game and I have success listening to his pitch and location around 90% of the time.



                  And then the next game could be completely different and I might follow him completely only around 70% of the time or agree with his pitch call but not location or vice versa. Of course there are times when I call my own pitch and give up a homer and I think “I guess I should have listened to the catcher”!


                  I pretty much only go with the catcher call when I agree with it. And I always choose my own location. My API is on default so I never see the catchers location.


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                  • nolczyk16
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2019
                    • 300

                    #1884
                    Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                    For those wondering about HUM / CPU pitching consistency & control, has anyone tried 6/6 for both Human and CPU? I’m going to test those out the next few days and see how it works. (This is more directed at those wanted to have a “fair and equal playing field without any slight user advantage”)


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                    • TripleCrown
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1238

                      #1885
                      Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                      About the new version with Hum & CPU power at 4.

                      I won’t second guess you at all on that call but after a few games i see a lot of weak contact on both HUM & CPU. But at same time I was hitting too many HR at 5.

                      I now feel a 4.5 Power setting would be ideal :-)
                      Last edited by TripleCrown; 05-13-2020, 07:49 PM.

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                      • GainzBro
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2019
                        • 680

                        #1886
                        Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                        Year 2 Giant's are stumbling through April and May with a 17-20 record. The numbers don't look bad .252 avg, .312 obp and 3.60 era but the wins just aren't there for this talented team. It seems either the pitching is clicking or the hitting is clicking but neither click together yet.
                        Nick Castellanos, our big free agent signee has played outstanding ball at .350, 13 doubles, 6 hr and 23 rbi all top 10 numbers and has earned the moniker Nicky Two-Bags for his penchant to hit doubles.
                        Reyes Moronta has gone 9 of 9 in save opps thus far and is striking out 11 per 9. He looks like the nastiest dude on the planet when his command is right.
                        Buster Posey has looked listless hitting .190 and leading the team in GIDP.
                        Mike Yastrzemski has picked up on his stellar rookie campaign going .299, 7hr and 22 runs scored while playing very good defense.
                        Brian Anderson has struggled after posting an 8.6 WAR last year he's at .244 with just 6 xbh this far.
                        Brandon Crawford has been dreadful as a hitter and has noticeably lost range going to his left.
                        Our best prospects are at AA so the guys we got are the guys who we're rolling with this year. Hopefully we can jel and get this season on track.

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                        • Jeffrey Smith
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1925

                          #1887
                          Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                          I pretty much only go with the catcher call when I agree with it. And I always choose my own location. My API is on default so I never see the catchers location.


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                          • rlb1976
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 617

                            #1888
                            Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                            Originally posted by bcruise
                            The advice in the in-game strategy guide says that API can be a good tool for beginners, but advanced players will want to develop their own strategy and tailor their picks against their opponent. It's up to you which side of that spectrum you fall on, but here's my interpretation of that line:

                            API disappears on its "default" setting on All Star difficulty and above - that is, it doesn't highlight the pitch type and suggested location unless you press R2. I believe there's a reason for that, and that reason lies in the strategy guide stuff I just mentioned - Above Veteran difficulty you're assumed to have enough familiarity with the game that you should be calling your own game. If you try to pitch exactly to the API on those levels, especially HOF or Legend, You. Will. Get. HAMMERED.

                            For my part, I do pay attention to the hand signals and locations my catcher is putting down and will usually call the pitch type he suggests (it does a pretty good job of getting the fastball-to-offspeed ratio correct most of the time), but for location I usually wing it. I know that slow pitches that break away and down from hitters shouldn't be intentionally in the zone, so i aim far enough out that the pitch is more likely to land outside of the strike zone than it is to land in the middle. Usually that ends up being much further out than the API would have suggested, but that's perfectly fine if you have balls in the count to use, and it's even better if you get the batter to chase something and miss.
                            Thanks for the response. My next game I'm going to try not going with the catchers suggestion as much and see how it goes. I mainly get hammered when I go with the catchers call and the ball doesn't end up there lol.

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                            • JHedges2
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4651

                              #1889
                              Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                              Originally posted by TripleCrown
                              About the new version with Hum & CPU power at 4.

                              I won’t second guess you at all on that call but after a few games i see a lot of weak contact on both HUM & CPU. But at same time I was hitting too many HR at 5.

                              I now feel a 4.5 Power setting would be ideal :-)

                              Haha yes!!!! I haven’t played enough with the updates, but in very limited quantity, I agree with this.

                              I will definitely give it more time before I adjust as I know A&S put in tons of time and testing before making a rash adjustment.

                              Trust the process!


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                              • Rmiok222
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 3129

                                #1890
                                Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                                I just played Detroit without miggy. They’re straight up not even fun to play against. In 3 games I have outscored them 36-3 lol. All my other recent games have been completely normal scores.


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