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  • titanswin53
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    • Oct 2008
    • 304

    #3121
    Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
    1000% agree.

    This is going to be another fantastic year of MLB The Show baseball on the PS4 and in some of our cases the PS5.

    And Titans was 100% spot on about how the game plays on the PS5.

    It is simply amazing. If you have a 4K HDR tv you will be blown away at the new level of smoothness and details.

    Like new game folks.

    We are thrilled to have this game and the enormous amount of roster content!!!

    #mlbshow20forthewin
    #endofanera


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    Thanks for the call out Armor. I remember when I 1st saw gameplay of 20 on PS5 I was like oh it looks good, nothing drastic though.

    Boy did that change once I actually played 20 on PS5, it always feels like you're playing 20.5. Videos do not do it justice.

    I see some posting that they see the jump on 21 from a base PS4 or PRO to to XSX from 20. There is a big jump if you never played 20 on PS5.

    It's a shame all the things I'm reading, aside from already knowing Nexgen 21 didn't have SOTS and Y2Y. Reading that 21's PS4 Version bat sounds are off and not like 20 is weird. Why even change that when 20's sounds were spot on?

    RTTS changes sound horrible too. No Showcase or Draft, you just pick your team?

    Seems like so much is going wrong with 21 aside from the PS4 Version, it makes me question who was really in charge on all these decisions.

    I personally feel like SDS may have been given extreme guidelines to follow with the move to cross platform. Something seems really off with their decisions compared to all other years.

    Not trying to point the finger, but think of this, what if 21 was just PS4/5 only? We'd probably have an amazing game as always, with all the features we are accustomed to.

    SDS may need to come out and explain why these design choices were made.

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    • Armor and Sword
      The Lama
      • Sep 2010
      • 21786

      #3122
      Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

      Originally posted by titanswin53
      Thanks for the call out Armor. I remember when I 1st saw gameplay of 20 on PS5 I was like oh it looks good, nothing drastic though.

      Boy did that change once I actually played 20 on PS5, it always feels like you're playing 20.5. Videos do not do it justice.

      I see some posting that they see the jump on 21 from a base PS4 or PRO to to XSX from 20. There is a big jump if you never played 20 on PS5.

      It's a shame all the things I'm reading, aside from already knowing Nexgen 21 didn't have SOTS and Y2Y. Reading that 21's PS4 Version bat sounds are off and not like 20 is weird. Why even change that when 20's sounds were spot on?

      RTTS changes sound horrible too. No Showcase or Draft, you just pick your team?

      Seems like so much is going wrong with 21 aside from the PS4 Version, it makes me question who was really in charge on all these decisions.

      I personally feel like SDS may have been given extreme guidelines to follow with the move to cross platform. Something seems really off with their decisions compared to all other years.

      Not trying to point the finger, but think of this, what if 21 was just PS4/5 only? We'd probably have an amazing game as always, with all the features we are accustomed to.

      SDS may need to come out and explain why these design choices were made.
      I was ridiculed by a few trolls in the general forum when I pounded the sand about the move to XBOX causing the removal of Y2Y.

      I called it cold.

      Don’t give this BS of “improvements to Franchise” or “We have 93 players now instead of 90” you can easily...and I mean easily program in for 3 random fictional single A players to fill 3 spots on a roster transfer.....they simply did not bother. The graphing of straws by true “SDS can do no wrong” people is laughable. I was always a massive supporter.....and was even called a “White Knight” a million times”. Yeah sure. I just simply loved the product for a decade and a half.....but starting with 18 things started really changing....the tide was turning in terms of priority. They reskinned the franchise UI and that was all she wrote....here is your update. Buh Bye. And the resin sucks in hindsight. Give me MLB 17’s franchise hub back.....gone too LOL.

      It was “we are starting on a new console (XBOX) and the past is going to erased.

      Superbly let down by SDS this cycle and this move to PS5.

      The loss of first party exclusivity cannot be stated enough as the beginning of the end of an era for pioneer Show fans.

      Again.....it’s ok. MLB 20 will go down as the signature game in the series for this entire console generation.

      Make sure you back up all your roster files to a USB and in the cloud on PSN. Because in 3 years those servers will be shut down.
      Last edited by Armor and Sword; 04-16-2021, 10:58 AM.
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      • titanswin53
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        • Oct 2008
        • 304

        #3123
        Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

        It's amazing I'm sitting here on Show launch day and I'm NOT barely looking at work and diving full in to playing 21.

        I should be sitting here messing with SOTS just so I could enjoy a few exhibition games to get a feel of the changes. Instead I'm just reading the threads and shaking my head at the changes.

        Definitely glad I didn't spend the money. I'll be happy to go full steam back in to my 20 Chise knowing I'm really not missing much at all.

        I hope they do find ways to improve 21. That whole SOTS resetting on PS4 Version absolutely needs to get patched ASAP. Pretty much shows that was something they didn't even bother testing. I'd be furious spending a day getting all the SOTS set up to find that out.

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        • guinness22
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          • Feb 2003
          • 233

          #3124
          Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

          I won’t quote it all but this thread continues to sum up my thoughts superbly. Just wow. Reading through the Q&A and impressions just reinforced my decision to not buy this cycle (and now likely ever again). I totally agree, it’s been coming for a while but it’s now clearly the true end of an era.

          g22


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          • bryanm1982
            MVP
            • Nov 2016
            • 3782

            #3125
            Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

            Originally posted by titanswin53
            It's amazing I'm sitting here on Show launch day and I'm NOT barely looking at work and diving full in to playing 21.

            I should be sitting here messing with SOTS just so I could enjoy a few exhibition games to get a feel of the changes. Instead I'm just reading the threads and shaking my head at the changes.

            Definitely glad I didn't spend the money. I'll be happy to go full steam back in to my 20 Chise knowing I'm really not missing much at all.

            I hope they do find ways to improve 21. That whole SOTS resetting on PS4 Version absolutely needs to get patched ASAP. Pretty much shows that was something they didn't even bother testing. I'd be furious spending a day getting all the SOTS set up to find that out.
            IF they even patch it.
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            • titanswin53
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              • Oct 2008
              • 304

              #3126
              Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

              Originally posted by bryanm1982
              IF they even patch it.
              Lol they HAVE TO, otherwise, what's the point? Just remove it then.

              No way can they leave SOTS in and it's so bugged out it removes songs, assignments, etc.

              21 sounds like it's a disaster movie, but one of those B Movies you can watch on Amazon Prime that have 2 stars for a rating.

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              • bryanm1982
                MVP
                • Nov 2016
                • 3782

                #3127
                Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                Originally posted by titanswin53
                Lol they HAVE TO, otherwise, what's the point? Just remove it then.

                No way can they leave SOTS in and it's so bugged out it removes songs, assignments, etc.

                21 sounds like it's a disaster movie, but one of those B Movies you can watch on Amazon Prime that have 2 stars for a rating.
                I'm sure it will be on their bottom of the list. They have to make sure their #1 fans are happy first.
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                • shane_790132
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                  • Jul 2004
                  • 71

                  #3128
                  Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                  The Show 20 was the first year I have ever played every single pitch from the 1st day of spring training to the last pitch of the season in any game. I was going to use the y2y save feature for the first time and continue on with the "improved franchise" this year. Well that won't be happening now. I am way too invested in this team and the moves I made in the offseason to get and edge on the Dodgers to start anew on 21. I totally agree with being done with SDS and the show if they are going to show no signs on giving Franchise gamers any meaningful improvements or worse continue to take away key features.

                  l I have been playing NCAA 14 since midnight on release day and still going strong. So I see absolutely no reason at all that The Show 20 won't be able to keep me happy for the foreseeable future. Might get a chance to play a few other franchises as well now and not feel pressed for time before the next game.

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                  • sharkdaballer
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2019
                    • 159

                    #3129
                    Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                    First. I truly appreciate the kind words. We have a great group inside this thread and I have always loved sharing settings and franchises, knowledge, stories...the whole gambit with all of you.

                    I would not even waste my time testing MLB 21 because I have zero....and I mean zero desire to play or support the game.

                    I am pretty much moving on from SDS until I see a re-comittment to offline simulation players. They have clearly jumped the shark from us...the pioneer players of this once great series to go on the Diamond Dynasty/Esports bandwagon. And I get it. I understand this is a business and the trend is your friend.

                    But just because I understand it....does not mean I have to sugar coat it, support it, or like it.

                    I think this entire release has reeked of horse***t. From the removal of Y2Y saves to SOTS to now.....you do not even earn XP if you play with custom sliders?

                    Remember the whole "you do not have to play DD or online or buy stubs to earn stubs or to earn packs?"

                    Gone.....like a fart in the wind. They are fully monetizing the game and trying to force offline franchise players to either go along.....or simply get out. They simply have moved on from us.

                    Fine.....I have too.

                    We have a game here in MLB 20 that will IMO stand the test of time throughout the entire PS5 cycle. Mark that down and mark my words....you will get far more joy playing MLB 20 on a new gen console (PS5) than any future release of this series from this point forward on the PS5.

                    I simply see no commitment to improve franchise mode, bring back Y2Y, bring back SOTS.

                    Once this game went multi platform.....that was it. We lost that exclusivity that allowed them to deliver genre defining features like Year to Year franchise and RTTS saves and Sounds of the Show.

                    It is gone.

                    I am not wasting my time playing a game I have no heart or desire to play. So I appreciate the gesture to get me a copy.....but money is of absolutely no concern to me (remember I used to give away copies every cycle for “What does baseball mean to you” because I loved this game and wanted to give back). I can simply get this game at the end of the year for $5 or free on PSN just to see how it really has gone.

                    Last nights DD stream was so very telling. It went a freaking hour. The glee and bravado of unveiling that mode was gross.

                    I have no qualms with those that love playing DD. I get it. And it is kinda fun here and there and I love collecting the cards.

                    But I cannot even collect anymore because I play franchise mode with custom sliders. That is how I earned all my progress, XP and packs and cards.

                    NO MORE!!!! FU offline franchise player.....you must fit into this box now.

                    What a joke.

                    They lost me......permanently. And it is truly on principle as being a true “old school” pioneer video gamer.

                    I started playing video games on the first consoles ever made. I am that late 70’s early 80’s kid who helped support this industry and now? Screw them.

                    They are fired from my video game life. They gave me 15 years of bliss....I thank them whole heartedly for it.

                    I have everything I can ever want on MLB 20.

                    Great playing game
                    Solid franchise mode
                    Incredible roster content

                    We are all good.

                    To those that will move on to 21 good luck......but my slider days are over for MLB The Show for the foreseeable future. It will take a lot to bring me back.

                    And this has been a build up.....I have seen the writing for years. And now they really have made it clear what the priority is.

                    Online/stubs/packs/microtransactions


                    Again folks.....#ENDOFANERA

                    Be well and see you on our streams as we continue our virtual baseball journey on the best MLB game ever made.

                    MLB The Show 20.
                    [emoji817]. Just the fact that tha out the box rosters weren't franchise-ready for '20 or '21 tells you

                    a) they do not test franchise mode

                    b) they do but don't care

                    FOR 2 STRAIGHT YEARS

                    But yea, implicitly telling us that using custom sliders won't give XP or Stubs makes it transparent. They don't want or need offline players.

                    Franchise mode is fun and it's real unfortunate they don't agree.

                    The Show '20>>>

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                    • VincesVictims
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 773

                      #3130
                      Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                      THANK THE BASEBALL GODS FOR MLB 20 THE SHOW!!!!!!!!!


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                      • Culture Rot
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3018

                        #3131
                        Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                        It was a Great run, but another sports gaming dynasty (Madden, fifa...) will fall at the hands of card gambling modes. It’s not there yet, but i think what many are expressing is being able to see it coming as some of the pillars are dismantled. It really does suck especially because it is so UNNECESSARY. There’s a way to make both sides happy. They could have thrown a few bones and quelled this for another year or so. But this will be marked as the year they went ALL IN on one part of their fan base and started to lose the other.

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                        • Culture Rot
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3018

                          #3132
                          Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword

                          Moved on

                          Fine.....I have too.

                          We have a game here in MLB 20 that will IMO stand the test of time throughout the entire PS5 cycle. Mark that down and mark my words....you will get far more joy playing MLB 20 on a new gen console (PS5) than any future release of this series from this point forward on the PS5.
                          And I will just warn to be very careful about being too public about this attitude because they can and will do what other sports games have done in an effort to FORCE users along to gambling modes, or upgrading to unpopular new versions of the game: removing features from old games, taking down servers, making modes unfunctional once servers are gone. It is only a matter of time before SCEA has a look at EA and 2K tactics.

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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21786

                            #3133
                            Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                            Originally posted by Culture Rot
                            And I will just warn to be very careful about being too public about this attitude because they can and will do what other sports games have done in an effort to FORCE users along to gambling modes, or upgrading to unpopular new versions of the game: removing features from old games, taking down servers, making modes unfunctional once servers are gone. It is only a matter of time before SCEA has a look at EA and 2K tactics.
                            Nobody is forcing anyone to card modes. Come on.

                            I have all my rosters saved on a USB and in the Cloud. I am losing nothing.
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                            • Culture Rot
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 3018

                              #3134
                              Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                              Nobody is forcing anyone to card modes. Come on.

                              I have all my rosters saved on a USB and in the Cloud. I am losing nothing.
                              Sports gaming companies aren’t trying to influence players into playing card gambling modes? Is that really your take?

                              Maybe MLB The Show is all you play, but other companies have taken obvious measures into forcing players off old versions of games. SCEA isn’t going to be exempt from this.

                              In NBA 2k, several modes are gone after servers are taken down after a mere 2 years. If you have an ongoing franchise mode with custom teams, they are removed. Just one example.

                              Almost everything in these games is a funnel into card gambling modes.

                              If they wanted to make it so you lose access to features and modes MLB 20, they could do that, regardless of what you have saved on a usb or whatever your example was. If they wanted to take down the servers and cut off access to everything in the vaults, that would be another way of forcing players on to the new game.

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                              • Armor and Sword
                                The Lama
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21786

                                #3135
                                Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                                Originally posted by Culture Rot
                                Sports gaming companies aren’t trying to influence players into playing card gambling modes? Is that really your take?

                                Maybe MLB The Show is all you play, but other companies have taken obvious measures into forcing players off old versions of games. SCEA isn’t going to be exempt from this.

                                In NBA 2k, several modes are gone after servers are taken down after a mere 2 years. If you have an ongoing franchise mode with custom teams, they are removed. Just one example.

                                Almost everything in these games is a funnel into card gambling modes.

                                If they wanted to make it so you lose access to features and modes MLB 20, they could do that, regardless of what you have saved on a usb or whatever your example was. If they wanted to take down the servers and cut off access to everything in the vaults, that would be another way of forcing players on to the new game.

                                First of all Culture....you said “force” in your original post. So yeah no one is forcing me to do anything in terms of playing DD.

                                Influence? 100% agree with you. I am not stupid. So we are seeing the same thing.

                                As far as take away features from 20? They cannot do that. I own the game....it is mine. Digitally and on disc BTW. I have all my rosters, all my franchise files. All mine.

                                They cannot take any of that away.

                                What they can do is what they are doing now....removing features. Which they have done a fabulous job of doing on 21.
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