Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Sliders

[Armor and Sword]

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Well yes.. I understand that... But if he DOES choose to take off, I don't always get the player yell that says he is stealing so it's a free SB against me.

It happens..but rarely. But I get it. Only solution is having the runner windows turned on.

[PhilliesFan13]

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Finished my Opening Day game against the Marlins that I saved a few days ago. Won the game 9-4. Bryce Harper went 3-6 with 2 doubles, a homer and 4 RBI. Jean Segura had a big game with 3 RBI. Also had a homer with Rhys Hoskins.

I walked 9 times in the game but struck out 12 times.

Aaron Nola went 7 innings, 3 R, 2 ER and 9 strikeouts.

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[Armor and Sword]

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The bell has rung on Wall Street......time to play The Show baby.

[Gagnon39]

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When you guys are pithing and you are trying for control (just tapping) do you all literally just tap the button or do you hold it for maybe half a second?

I assume it works as follows but I’ve never seen definitive clarification...

Tap = maximum control and less break/velocity
Hold until rumble = least control but max break/velocity.

I am assuming anything in between gives relative results.

I’m having so much trouble putting hitters away this year it’s just crazy. The most strikeouts I’ve recorded in one game is 10 and I’ve only don’t that once. I currently sit in last place in strikeouts and all of my pitchers are way lower on their K/9 than their career stats.

I guess at this point I have to be open to any suggestions if I’m the only other one that just can’t get decent strikeout numbers.


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[Armor and Sword]

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When you guys are pithing and you are trying for control (just tapping) do you all literally just tap the button or do you hold it for maybe half a second?

I assume it works as follows but I’ve never seen definitive clarification...

Tap = maximum control and less break/velocity
Hold until rumble = least control but max break/velocity.

I am assuming anything in between gives relative results.

I’m having so much trouble putting hitters away this year it’s just crazy. The most strikeouts I’ve recorded in one game is 10 and I’ve only don’t that once. I currently sit in last place in strikeouts and all of my pitchers are way lower on their K/9 than their career stats.

I guess at this point I have to be open to any suggestions if I’m the only other one that just can’t get decent strikeout numbers.


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Join me tonight Gagnon as I will be streaming a few franchise games as well as my DD Supporters League game.

I will let you know how long I am holding my pitch buttons for.

I am 80% an in between tap and rumble. 5% rumble and 5% tap.

It is such a combination of how long, location and pitch sequencing.


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[Gagnon39]

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I’m always interested to see other people’s stats using the same sliders and difficulty. Just simply knowing that it’s possible to at least fall in the middle of the league in strikeouts would be enough for me.

Out of my first 15 games I’ve only struck out 10 one time. I have many, many games of 4 or 5 total and I’ve had one as low as 2.


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[bryanm1982]

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I’m always interested to see other people’s stats using the same sliders and difficulty. Just simply knowing that it’s possible to at least fall in the middle of the league in strikeouts would be enough for me.

Out of my first 15 games I’ve only struck out 10 one time. I have many, many games of 4 or 5 total and I’ve had one as low as 2.


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I struggle striking out hitters as well. I’m using the Braves. My stats aren’t horrible but it feels like I’m doing worse than the stats show. My starting rotation has 7.02 K/9 while my bullpen has 8.38 K/9. The least I’ve had in a game was 6 and the most was 10. But that could just be my pitching staff.

[Shuckman]

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Join me tonight Gagnon as I will be streaming a few franchise games as well as my DD Supporters League game.

I will let you know how long I am holding my pitch buttons for.

I am 80% an in between tap and rumble. 5% rumble and 5% tap.

It is such a combination of how long, location and pitch sequencing.




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Awesome I will try to join the stream since I am at work and we are doing the social distancing gig. Does anyone else in here stream?

[WrigleyFaithful]

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I’m always interested to see other people’s stats using the same sliders and difficulty. Just simply knowing that it’s possible to at least fall in the middle of the league in strikeouts would be enough for me.

Out of my first 15 games I’ve only struck out 10 one time. I have many, many games of 4 or 5 total and I’ve had one as low as 2.


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I've seen you comment about this quite a bit lately and all I can say right now is that you're not the only one. This is my 5th cycle using classic pitching and my 4th using it complete clean screen I.E. Armor style. Needless to say I like to think I have an idea what I am doing. Now I agree that strikeout rates historically using classic on higher difficulties is a touch low in terms of "complete realism". In other words, its not practicable to replicate those elite relievers at a 14 k/9 like their real life counterparts without nerfing cpu offense and sacrificing more then we are set to gain. But, I've always been well within a realistic range. It seems my average drop off for just about all pitchers I would use would be about 1-2 k/9 (except for sinkerballers who I've always struggled to use on classic). This year, I like you am just not missing enough bats. A top notch strikeout guy, say 80 k/9 or above like Darvish I can muster a 6 inn 5 k type game. Average strikeout guys and below, I am seeing 1-3 k's per 5 or 6 inn outing routinely.

Based on my observations, the three main culprits have been #1 general unreliability of pitch location. This can be addressed with slider tweaking. #2 personalized and average umpire setting being way way to hitter friendly. (Too many balls being called with pitches hitting the true corner and hardly ever get strike calls let alone getting an umpire to expand for the pitcher) This effects the user as well because I can get into too many hitters counts because the corners are unreliable to get called strikes which forces cpu to work from behind and challenge me more often. I have begrudgingly switched to perfect umpire settings to see corners be called. #3 Which is the biggest of the 3 to me is the cpu is too aggressive at the plate with pitches in the zone or on corners. Not to say you won't see called strikes, but they're hacking more times than not and making contact more times than not as well. This I have no idea if I can address it. But I'll keep working through it until I find a solution.

[Gagnon39]

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I've seen you comment about this quite a bit lately and all I can say right now is that you're not the only one. This is my 5th cycle using classic pitching and my 4th using it complete clean screen I.E. Armor style. Needless to say I like to think I have an idea what I am doing. Now I agree that strikeout rates historically using classic on higher difficulties is a touch low in terms of "complete realism". In other words, its not practicable to replicate those elite relievers at a 14 k/9 like their real life counterparts without nerfing cpu offense and sacrificing more then we are set to gain. But, I've always been well within a realistic range. It seems my average drop off for just about all pitchers I would use would be about 1-2 k/9 (except for sinkerballers who I've always struggled to use on classic). This year, I like you am just not missing enough bats. A top notch strikeout guy, say 80 k/9 or above like Darvish I can muster a 6 inn 5 k type game. Average strikeout guys and below, I am seeing 1-3 k's per 5 or 6 inn outing routinely.



Based on my observations, the three main culprits have been #1 general unreliability of pitch location. This can be addressed with slider tweaking. #2 personalized and average umpire setting being way way to hitter friendly. (Too many balls being called with pitches hitting the true corner and hardly ever get strike calls let alone getting an umpire to expand for the pitcher) This effects the user as well because I can get into too many hitters counts because the corners are unreliable to get called strikes which forces cpu to work from behind and challenge me more often. I have begrudgingly switched to perfect umpire settings to see corners be called. #3 Which is the biggest of the 3 to me is the cpu is too aggressive at the plate with pitches in the zone or on corners. Not to say you won't see called strikes, but they're hacking more times than not and making contact more times than not as well. This I have no idea if I can address it. But I'll keep working through it until I find a solution.

Very well said. I agree with every single bit of what you said. I’ve also considered moving to, “perfect,” calls for balls and strikes but I just haven’t made that plunge yet. I did switch to, “average,” but I haven’t really noticed a difference to be honest. I’ve played around with returning to analog pitching, which I used to use years ago. I just really enjoy the (mostly) clean screen approach. My problem with analog is that I feel like I never walk enough batters, but even with classic I almost always have the fewest walks in the league anyway so I have to ask myself which one is worth it.

I someways kind of revert to the thought process of just wanting to know others are actually having success. If other people play on the same settings and they’re getting good strikeout numbers, then I at least know it’s possible, and I can attribute it to myself, which I’m actually okay with.

However, if I’m just up against impossible odds then I’d like to know so I can change it.


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[belikemike14]

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Very well said. I agree with every single bit of what you said. I’ve also considered moving to, “perfect,” calls for balls and strikes but I just haven’t made that plunge yet. I did switch to, “average,” but I haven’t really noticed a difference to be honest. I’ve played around with returning to analog pitching, which I used to use years ago. I just really enjoy the (mostly) clean screen approach. My problem with analog is that I feel like I never walk enough batters, but even with classic I almost always have the fewest walks in the league anyway so I have to ask myself which one is worth it.

I someways kind of revert to the thought process of just wanting to know others are actually having success. If other people play on the same settings and they’re getting good strikeout numbers, then I at least know it’s possible, and I can attribute it to myself, which I’m actually okay with.

However, if I’m just up against impossible odds then I’d like to know so I can change it.


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One thing I tried for a bit and worked for me was combining Armors sliders for hitting with Mike Lowe’s sliders for pitching. His setup is great to use with meter pitching and also provides good strikeout numbers. Classic pitching irritates the hell out of me sometimes lol


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[usmgoldeneagles]

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I struggle striking out hitters as well. I’m using the Braves. My stats aren’t horrible but it feels like I’m doing worse than the stats show. My starting rotation has 7.02 K/9 while my bullpen has 8.38 K/9. The least I’ve had in a game was 6 and the most was 10. But that could just be my pitching staff.

Where do I see my team stats? I can’t seem to find it.

[bryanm1982]

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Where do I see my team stats? I can’t seem to find it.

You can look at team and player stats in the franchise menu. I believe you can see the individual player’s K/9 but I keep track of all the stats like that on a spreadsheet.

[usmgoldeneagles]

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You can look at team and player stats in the franchise menu. I believe you can see the individual player’s K/9 but I keep track of all the stats like that on a spreadsheet.

Okay, I’ll try to find it. I was trying to find my team Slg, OBP etc.

[Gagnon39]

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I’d honesty be surprised if anyone has realistic K/9 stats for the majority of their pitchers. If you don’t know where to look just go to your roster, hit R1 to get to pitchers and then hit triangle. Hit R1 again to get to your player’s year-to-year stats and you can see their career K/9 and each season. Their career stat will be very slightly influenced (but not much) by the current year you’re playing. But compare the 2020 season stats to each player’s career and their individual previous season. I bet the vast majority of guys that use classic pitching have 1 to 2 K’s less per 9 in the 2020 season. I could be wrong but I’d love to know.

Here’s some of mine.

2020 K/9 vs Career

Lester 5.72/8.23
Hendricks 5.40/7.58
Darvish 8.72/11.08
Quintana 4.29/7.82
Chatwood 4.30/6.45
Winkler 4.91/10.13
Olson 10.13/9.09
Kimbrel 9.64/14.56
Wick 3.00/8.31
Mills 7.94/10.57
Tapera 9.00/8.49
Jeffress 5.68/8.26
Ryan 3.52/5.99

All but two pitcher have significantly lower K/9. What’s especially glaring is the starters.

I just pitched a complete game shutout with Lester and he had three strikeouts.


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