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  • vertman
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 1009

    #916
    Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

    Originally posted by bcruise
    I've never seen this exact thing, but there's a legacy (talking many, many years here) bug where the result is something similar. Sometimes (but not always) bringing in a new pitcher directly from the "quick menu" causes the pitcher to come in with a chunk of his stamina gone and confidence lower than normal. Sometimes the "schedule to pitch" option on the bullpen screen does the same thing. Anytime I see this, the warmup bar/circle does show as "ready" and not "cold" - but this sounds too similar to just brush off.



    The way to keep the bug I'm talking about from happening is to always access the bullpen screen when you change pitchers - don't do it straight from the quick menu. And the change needs to be immediate from that screen - not the delayed "schedule to pitch" option, in other words.



    I don't know if this and the thing you mentioned are the same, but I just wanted to give a heads up on the known bug.


    Thank you for that detailed explanation . I will do that the next time I play. I normally press up on the D pad then select bullpen to bring in the guy I have warmed up but I do always switch those guys to “ ready and waiting” once they’ve warmed up. Should I not do that? Pretty crazy that I’ve been playing this game for many years and never experienced this . Felt like this option worked correctly in years past


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    • bcruise
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2004
      • 23274

      #917
      Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

      Originally posted by vertman
      Thank you for that detailed explanation . I will do that the next time I play. I normally press up on the D pad then select bullpen to bring in the guy I have warmed up but I do always switch those guys to “ ready and waiting” once they’ve warmed up. Should I not do that? Pretty crazy that I’ve been playing this game for many years and never experienced this . Felt like this option worked correctly in years past


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      I used to think "ready and waiting" was important (before I made the connection between this bug occurring during a quick menu pitcher change) so as not to over-warm the pitcher, but I'm not so sure it matters anymore. I still do it anyway, out of habit - you can use that option as soon as the warmup bar goes halfway and the status becomes "ready". They will continue to warmup to full while that's selected, and them stop. That's how I always bring in a new pitcher - use the ready and waiting option to hold them until I'm ready to bring them in, then go into the bullpen screen once I'm ready to make the change. I haven't had the energy loss thing occur for as long as I can remember using that method.

      Stretch and toss is kind of related to that too - it warms a pitcher to halfway on that bar, and then stops.

      There's still uncertainty in how all this works, which is why I just do what I know works.

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      • vertman
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 1009

        #918
        Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

        Originally posted by bcruise
        I used to think "ready and waiting" was important (before I made the connection between this bug occurring during a quick menu pitcher change) so as not to over-warm the pitcher, but I'm not so sure it matters anymore. I still do it anyway, out of habit - you can use that option as soon as the warmup bar goes halfway and the status becomes "ready". They will continue to warmup to full while that's selected, and them stop. That's how I always bring in a new pitcher - use the ready and waiting option to hold them until I'm ready to bring them in, then go into the bullpen screen once I'm ready to make the change. I haven't had the energy loss thing occur for as long as I can remember using that method.

        Stretch and toss is kind of related to that too - it warms a pitcher to halfway on that bar, and then stops.

        There's still uncertainty in how all this works, which is why I just do what I know works.


        Thank you again for clarifying. Makes perfect sense. My relievers are getting crushed leading to my 1-6 record with the pirates but in my Yankees franchise this doesn’t seem to be happening. At least I’ve never noticed it and I always handle my bullpen the same exact way except for using the “ ready and waiting “ status with the bar half full. I always change it to that status once the bar is full . Maybe that is the issue.


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        • bryanm1982
          MVP
          • Nov 2016
          • 3782

          #919
          Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

          I have had this a couple times in this year’s game and it just happened to me two times in a row. The CPU hit a ground ball up the middle with a runner at first. Last year I could hold the triangle button and the SS or 2B would run to the bag for the force and then throw to first for the double play. But this year, when that happens the SS gets the ball. The 2B doesn’t go to the bag so the game is wanting the SS to get to the bag and then throw. But I hold down Triangle and the SS just stops and stands there. And then throws to the 2B where he is still at his position. I think I will just have to start using the stick to make the SS run towards the bag. Anybody else see this? What do you do?
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          • Armor and Sword
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            • Sep 2010
            • 21786

            #920
            Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

            Originally posted by bryanm1982
            I have had this a couple times in this year’s game and it just happened to me two times in a row. The CPU hit a ground ball up the middle with a runner at first. Last year I could hold the triangle button and the SS or 2B would run to the bag for the force and then throw to first for the double play. But this year, when that happens the SS gets the ball. The 2B doesn’t go to the bag so the game is wanting the SS to get to the bag and then throw. But I hold down Triangle and the SS just stops and stands there. And then throws to the 2B where he is still at his position. I think I will just have to start using the stick to make the SS run towards the bag. Anybody else see this? What do you do?

            This is a bug.....report it. I have had this happen a few times and it sucks when it does. It should be an easy unassisted double play and now they freeze and not run to the bag like you said.
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            • GainzBro
              Pro
              • Jul 2019
              • 680

              #921
              Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

              Originally posted by VincesVictims
              Well I'm 50 games into my Braves franchise and I'm actually loving the way the pitching feels with my stamina at 5. Most games I'm getting 6-8 innings from my starters. Also the same for the cpu.

              The one thing you have to pay attention to is if your starter isnt at full stamina at the beginning of the game you shouldn't expect him to go more than 6 and he will start getting tired in the 5th. That's pretty realistic to me. You dont see many guys going back to back 90 to 100 pitch outings anymore.

              But with full stamina before the game I'm getting 85-100 pitches easier. And also remember when it says he is getting tired he still has about another 15 to 20 pitches.

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              I find with stamina at 5 you have to work extremely hard to get a CG from a starter or even go deep into a game. I feel like that's an accurate simulation of real baseball. You hardly ever see guys pitch CG's in real life and when you do it really stands out. So I like the challenge. Also this puts a premium on smart bullpen usage throughout your season and simulates tired pitching staffs really well through tough stretches of games.

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              • GainzBro
                Pro
                • Jul 2019
                • 680

                #922
                Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                Originally posted by bcruise
                I used to think "ready and waiting" was important (before I made the connection between this bug occurring during a quick menu pitcher change) so as not to over-warm the pitcher, but I'm not so sure it matters anymore. I still do it anyway, out of habit - you can use that option as soon as the warmup bar goes halfway and the status becomes "ready". They will continue to warmup to full while that's selected, and them stop. That's how I always bring in a new pitcher - use the ready and waiting option to hold them until I'm ready to bring them in, then go into the bullpen screen once I'm ready to make the change. I haven't had the energy loss thing occur for as long as I can remember using that method.

                Stretch and toss is kind of related to that too - it warms a pitcher to halfway on that bar, and then stops.

                There's still uncertainty in how all this works, which is why I just do what I know works.
                I like to use ready and waiting for a deeper sim feel.

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                • bryanm1982
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 3782

                  #923
                  Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                  Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                  This is a bug.....report it. I have had this happen a few times and it sucks when it does. It should be an easy unassisted double play and now they freeze and not run to the bag like you said.
                  Thank you. I submitted a bug report.
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                  • TopSide83
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 1400

                    #924
                    Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                    10/10 pitch speeds really bring hitting and pitching to life! This is the first year I’ve actually noticed a difference on the mound when the pitch speed is raised and the added bonus of HOF being even tough has made it worthwhile. Try it out guys and let me know what you think.

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                    • Burgess
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 1015

                      #925
                      Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                      What did I do wrong? I want to start 2 franchises using the same roster

                      So I download roster from the vault.

                      Then I go into data utility and load that roster. I make a few tweaks, set lineups and rotations and save.

                      Then go to start a 30-team control franchise. When I go into the teams all the roster changes I made didn’t stick.

                      What did I do wrong?
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                      • Mikeyo918
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 530

                        #926
                        Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                        Originally posted by Burgess
                        What did I do wrong? I want to start 2 franchises using the same roster

                        So I download roster from the vault.

                        Then I go into data utility and load that roster. I make a few tweaks, set lineups and rotations and save.

                        Then go to start a 30-team control franchise. When I go into the teams all the roster changes I made didn’t stick.

                        What did I do wrong?
                        on your 29 other teams, set 40 man, lineup/rotation to manual. on the last day of spring training you need to manually send down guys to make a 26 man roster, and then you can set up lineup/rotation. and then advance to regular season. It's about 4 hours worth of work for the 30 team set up. Once you advance to regular season go back to the 29 other teams profile and set the stuff on manual to auto.

                        It's a first time issue with MLBTS and rosters not sticking. No word on a fix. So the long way workaround is all we have.
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                        • Burgess
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 1015

                          #927
                          Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                          Originally posted by Mikeyo918
                          on your 29 other teams, set 40 man, lineup/rotation to manual. on the last day of spring training you need to manually send down guys to make a 26 man roster, and then you can set up lineup/rotation. and then advance to regular season. It's about 4 hours worth of work for the 30 team set up. Once you advance to regular season go back to the 29 other teams profile and set the stuff on manual to auto.

                          It's a first time issue with MLBTS and rosters not sticking. No word on a fix. So the long way workaround is all we have.
                          Thanks for the reply. This is what I have done in the past, I just thought it would be faster doing it through data utility as I could do it once for both teams.

                          Guess I have more work to do before I start my franchises. Grrr!!!
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                          • Greggywocky
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 40

                            #928
                            Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                            Just something I want to share re hitting, and your position in relation to the screen. This may be well-known, but it’s only just occurred to me tonight after a decade of playing. And it seems to be helping me see pitches.

                            Don’t sit directly behind the strike zone. If an RH hitter is up, move a foot or so to your left on the couch, and vice versa for an LH.

                            I use MLB15 view, but I guess it works for others? As you’re seeing it more like the hitter would I suppose.

                            And finally, I think everyone knows this but worth repeating: your eye level should be at the top of the SZ at least. Definitely not lower..

                            (It is possible I’ve ‘discovered’ this on a night I just happen to be playing very well perhaps. There’s the disclaimer.)
                            Last edited by Greggywocky; 04-08-2020, 10:32 PM.

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                            • dar3816
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 120

                              #929
                              Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                              Originally posted by bryanm1982
                              I have had this a couple times in this year’s game and it just happened to me two times in a row. The CPU hit a ground ball up the middle with a runner at first. Last year I could hold the triangle button and the SS or 2B would run to the bag for the force and then throw to first for the double play. But this year, when that happens the SS gets the ball. The 2B doesn’t go to the bag so the game is wanting the SS to get to the bag and then throw. But I hold down Triangle and the SS just stops and stands there. And then throws to the 2B where he is still at his position. I think I will just have to start using the stick to make the SS run towards the bag. Anybody else see this? What do you do?
                              I had this happen in the bottom of the 17th when I was up 10-9.. left me with bases loaded and 1 out when I should have been out of the inning. Next batter hit a double in the gap. I didn’t play the game for a few days after that.

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                              • ML
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                                • Aug 2011
                                • 1957

                                #930
                                Re: Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Slider

                                Just lucked into watching the first nohitter of the 2020 season! KC Royals SP Brady Singer no hit the Texas Rangers in a 2-0 victory. He had a perfect game up until the 9th, but walked the leadoff hitter. He is currently 2-3, 2.88 ERA, 1.37 WHIP. This win brings the Royals to .500 at 15-15, while the Rangers are an abysmal 8-24.
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