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  • PhlliesPhan6
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 1494

    #361
    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

    I know this has been discussed to death but what adjustments are people making when they see too many HRs. The computer amount seems fine but I'm hitting way too many, especially with my power guys. I have 4 guys in my lineup with 9+ HRs in mid april. I already have Human Timing lowered to 4.

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    • JoshC1977
      All Star
      • Dec 2010
      • 11564

      #362
      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

      Originally posted by PhlliesPhan6
      I know this has been discussed to death but what adjustments are people making when they see too many HRs. The computer amount seems fine but I'm hitting way too many, especially with my power guys. I have 4 guys in my lineup with 9+ HRs in mid april. I already have Human Timing lowered to 4.
      1. If using any strikezone cam, stop using it STAT.
      2. Try going up to All Star + (with default timing)
      3. Play a lot more games.
      Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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      • WSCUkicker
        Rookie
        • May 2018
        • 152

        #363
        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

        Originally posted by JoshC1977
        1. If using any strikezone cam, stop using it STAT.

        2. Try going up to All Star + (with default timing)

        3. Play a lot more games.


        Hey Josh what exactly is all Star + and how do you set that?


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        • JoshC1977
          All Star
          • Dec 2010
          • 11564

          #364
          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

          Originally posted by WSCUkicker
          Hey Josh what exactly is all Star + and how do you set that?


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          Change from AS to dynamic difficulty; it'll level you up eventually to AS+. Once there, go to the slider screen and lower the Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity slider down to 0 to lock it in.
          Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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          • Gtl420
            Rookie
            • Feb 2016
            • 347

            #365
            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

            Josh you’ve done it again bro! Started a chise recently and been rolling with the set since day one! Loving the gameplay man thanks!


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            • Gtl420
              Rookie
              • Feb 2016
              • 347

              #366
              JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

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              I’ll admit at first the 7, 6 fastball, change up took a few play now games but for me it’s a nice touch now I’ve adjusted yet I still slump from time to time which I like. Plays to ratings really well.


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              • scutaro
                Rookie
                • Oct 2009
                • 30

                #367
                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                I'm 32 games into a 'get ready' franchise with the Ridin rosters and I just couldn't stop hitting Homeruns.. don't get me wrong, I love the sound and the stats, but it just became too much. After pouring over the last few pages of posts, and thinking about other people's issues, I've decided to drop human and cpu power to 4, and leave everything else where it is, pitch speeds are 8/7

                The first 10 games after that have been terrific... still plenty of bloops and squibbers, drives into the gaps, hard hit outs, but most amazing to me have been Perfect/Perfect hits with the HR sound that get caught at the wall.

                First 22 games, 57 homeruns, including a 13 game win streak and to be honest, I would have to think long and hard to remember when I scored a run by hitting a double with a guy at first, or even a single with a guy at third.

                These last 10 games, averaging 5 runs per game, with 9 doubles, 7 homeruns, 2 wins at home vs Mariners, 2-1 series win in Cleveland, 2-1 series win in Houston, and so far a 1-1 split in Texas. I still need to watch the CPU homeruns to make sure they hold up and don't get suppressed by the change, Cleveland hit 3 in that series, Houston hit 5, and Texas has hit 2 in the first 2 games of the series.

                If it continues to hold up, it will be time to dump the franchise and start over, hell if it holds up I may go back and replay a number of past seasons when I sucked so bad at hitting I was stuck on Veteran hitting and could never get good enough long enough for the dynamic difficulty to move. This near 'out of the box' setup with these sliders has been a wonderful experience.

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                • JoshC1977
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 11564

                  #368
                  Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                  Originally posted by scutaro
                  I'm 32 games into a 'get ready' franchise with the Ridin rosters and I just couldn't stop hitting Homeruns.. don't get me wrong, I love the sound and the stats, but it just became too much. After pouring over the last few pages of posts, and thinking about other people's issues, I've decided to drop human and cpu power to 4, and leave everything else where it is, pitch speeds are 8/7

                  The first 10 games after that have been terrific... still plenty of bloops and squibbers, drives into the gaps, hard hit outs, but most amazing to me have been Perfect/Perfect hits with the HR sound that get caught at the wall.

                  First 22 games, 57 homeruns, including a 13 game win streak and to be honest, I would have to think long and hard to remember when I scored a run by hitting a double with a guy at first, or even a single with a guy at third.

                  These last 10 games, averaging 5 runs per game, with 9 doubles, 7 homeruns, 2 wins at home vs Mariners, 2-1 series win in Cleveland, 2-1 series win in Houston, and so far a 1-1 split in Texas. I still need to watch the CPU homeruns to make sure they hold up and don't get suppressed by the change, Cleveland hit 3 in that series, Houston hit 5, and Texas has hit 2 in the first 2 games of the series.

                  If it continues to hold up, it will be time to dump the franchise and start over, hell if it holds up I may go back and replay a number of past seasons when I sucked so bad at hitting I was stuck on Veteran hitting and could never get good enough long enough for the dynamic difficulty to move. This near 'out of the box' setup with these sliders has been a wonderful experience.
                  I've honestly not seen a problem...like at all...with too many HRs. But if you found something that works for you, roll with it....just understand that if you start seeing other issues, I won't be able to help much because you're using a different setup. If you DO see issues, I'd suggest reverting that change and trying something different - don't compound it with more changes....
                  Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                  • GoBlue81188
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 1801

                    #369
                    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                    Out of my own curiosity, what camera are those using with big HR totals?

                    I use Bacon's roster- Tigers. They've got pop but nothing CRAZY. I for one, haven't run into ANY of these HR issues for or against in my 85 games played thus far.

                    I think I'm sitting about 6th in homers for and 7th in homers against.
                    Twitch: Goblue81188

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                    • scutaro
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 30

                      #370
                      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                      Fish Eye 2

                      Other stats:

                      24-6 record
                      .565 Slugging
                      .331 On Base%
                      3.97 Team ERA
                      159 Runs scored
                      118 scored against
                      68 doubles
                      74 Homeruns

                      For context, second highest HR total is Texas with 48. That's just too much difference in HR. The double total leads the league, but only by 6 over Cleveland. I'm playing with the A's, regular schedule and if you have seen the schedule, those games included 7 vs Minnesota, 6 against Houston, 3 game sets against the Yankees, Red Sox, Indians... so not like it was piled up against lessor teams.

                      I don't know how much going to 4 Power for both Human and CPU will change things, but I'm gonna find out.

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                      • wizfan2
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 396

                        #371
                        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                        Originally posted by JoshC1977
                        Change from AS to dynamic difficulty; it'll level you up eventually to AS+. Once there, go to the slider screen and lower the Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity slider down to 0 to lock it in.
                        Ok after 2 Franchise games, right now I'm on Veteran + hitting & All Star pitching, how would I level off pitching if I reach All Star + and still keep progressing in Dynamic hitting?
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                        • JoshC1977
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 11564

                          #372
                          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                          Originally posted by wizfan2
                          Ok after 2 Franchise games, right now I'm on Veteran + hitting & All Star pitching, how would I level off pitching if I reach All Star + and still keep progressing in Dynamic hitting?
                          What I would do is this...turn up the dynamic difficulty sensitivity slider to 10. Then crank up all the hitting sliders to 10 and pitching sliders to 0.

                          Go into a Play Now game against a minor league team and use one of the legend team. For pitching, put out your worst possible pitcher so you get smacked around a little while you "should" pummel the CPU pitching. As you get closer and closer, you can back off of those extremes.

                          It might take a couple to a few games to do this and get both to AS+. As soon as you get there, drop the sensitivity slider to 0 and then lock-in the OP settings and you'll be good to go.
                          Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                          • JoshC1977
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 11564

                            #373
                            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                            Originally posted by scutaro
                            Fish Eye 2

                            Other stats:

                            24-6 record
                            .565 Slugging
                            .331 On Base%
                            3.97 Team ERA
                            159 Runs scored
                            118 scored against
                            68 doubles
                            74 Homeruns

                            For context, second highest HR total is Texas with 48. That's just too much difference in HR. The double total leads the league, but only by 6 over Cleveland. I'm playing with the A's, regular schedule and if you have seen the schedule, those games included 7 vs Minnesota, 6 against Houston, 3 game sets against the Yankees, Red Sox, Indians... so not like it was piled up against lessor teams.

                            I don't know how much going to 4 Power for both Human and CPU will change things, but I'm gonna find out.
                            Here's the thing...they aren't lesser teams, but aside from Houston...the pitching is pretty meh. Honestly, that a HUGE theme with the the current day rosters, pitching is overall pretty meh relative to offense and that is a reflection of the modern game.

                            Early season can get a bit funky as pitcher confidence levels need to build and settle-in. I'm inclined to tell you to ride it out for another 30 games before making a change.

                            What I'd suggest if you REALLY want to make a change now is to go to AS+ (I'd recommend doing this for both pitching and hitting to avoid any potential coding issues resulting from split difficulties).
                            Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                            • bigh0rt
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 112

                              #374
                              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                              It's crazy how we've* trained our brains to immediately look to the Sliders when things go a bit askew. I recently had a 5-6 game stretch where I just couldn't hit a thing. Everything was weak, pathetic contact, drawing 1, maybe 2 walks a game, scoring 1, maybe 2 runs a game. I was scratching my head wondering what the heck I had done, if I had accidentally tweaked a slider (I checked this like 4 different times), or if the recent update had done something to suppress my offense.

                              Nope. Just swinging at garbage, falling behind in every single count, and thus not getting anything good to hit. Then last night, I took pitch after pitch after pitch, worked into some favorable counts, and started seeing pitches to hit, and driving the ball. 8 Runs, 5 Walks, 14 Hits. Every at bat felt good and like there was a chance I could make something of it, which I haven't felt in a few days.

                              It's crazy how the vast majority of the time it's just something we, the user, are doing, and we seem to always want to immediately blame the game or a slider. That's in addition to the regular ebbs and flows that exist within the grind that is a 162 game season.

                              *Every 'we' in here is really just an 'I'.

                              As an aside, does anyone else have a much more difficult time seeing the ball as a batter in bright sunny day games? I have such a more challenging time tracking pitches than I do under the lights or in a dome.

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                              • JoshC1977
                                All Star
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 11564

                                #375
                                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                                Originally posted by bigh0rt
                                It's crazy how we've* trained our brains to immediately look to the Sliders when things go a bit askew. I recently had a 5-6 game stretch where I just couldn't hit a thing. Everything was weak, pathetic contact, drawing 1, maybe 2 walks a game, scoring 1, maybe 2 runs a game. I was scratching my head wondering what the heck I had done, if I had accidentally tweaked a slider (I checked this like 4 different times), or if the recent update had done something to suppress my offense.

                                Nope. Just swinging at garbage, falling behind in every single count, and thus not getting anything good to hit. Then last night, I took pitch after pitch after pitch, worked into some favorable counts, and started seeing pitches to hit, and driving the ball. 8 Runs, 5 Walks, 14 Hits. Every at bat felt good and like there was a chance I could make something of it, which I haven't felt in a few days.

                                It's crazy how the vast majority of the time it's just something we, the user, are doing, and we seem to always want to immediately blame the game or a slider. That's in addition to the regular ebbs and flows that exist within the grind that is a 162 game season.

                                *Every 'we' in here is really just an 'I'.

                                As an aside, does anyone else have a much more difficult time seeing the ball as a batter in bright sunny day games? I have such a more challenging time tracking pitches than I do under the lights or in a dome.
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                                We've ALL done this and even as a guy who is very steadfast at minimizing slider changes, I STILL go through this internal struggle on occasion and when others complain about something and you "see it", confirmation bias can run rampant. Guys like Armor and myself say "play more games" not to be glib, but because it really is the right answer.

                                Even with that said, it honestly wasn't until like July/August last year before I felt very confident in saying "trust the sliders". Sample size is incredibly important in this game and while my sampling with the OP isn't bad, virtually none of that is with a current-day 2020 roster (nearly all is with either Bacon's roster or my carryover from last year). I'm only now considering doing a franchise with the current day rosters and tbh, IF I am able to stick to it; it'll take a long while to build-up that amount of data.


                                (To your aside: yes, sunny days CAN be a bear....try Baltimore late afternoon...ugh)
                                Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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