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  • steelcityjames
    Pro
    • Dec 2010
    • 877

    #481
    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

    Question for anyone playing on default AS+ ..... What are the main reasons default AS+ plays better this year than default AS+ did last year?

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    • JoshMad75
      Just started!
      • May 2021
      • 1

      #482
      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

      Hi everyone. I’m new to both the game and sliders but liked what I read in this thread’s first post. However, I play a certain way that may not be common. I just pitch and manage the bullpen, substitutions, and batting order. I have the CPU handle fielding and I even switch it over to handle all my batting for me.

      Should I stick with this slider set or based on my play style would you recommend another or even a specific adjustment. I like the importance of player rating and want games to look like real baseball.

      Thanks for any replies!

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      • TopSide83
        MVP
        • Sep 2016
        • 1401

        #483
        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

        Thankful for this thread because of the positive vibes it brings off for 21 next gen. Great game and great findings by Josh so far

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        • packmanuk
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 1095

          #484
          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

          I'm enjoying the sliders but am finding the pitching a bit easy. I'm using all-star + but don't seem to be giving up many runs or hits. When I was leveling up to all-star+ I was getting close to hof but still only about a run a game. Hitting is tough though and I'm getting low scores but I don't mind this and am just hoping to improve.

          Anything I can try ?

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          • TopSide83
            MVP
            • Sep 2016
            • 1401

            #485
            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

            Originally posted by packmanuk
            I'm enjoying the sliders but am finding the pitching a bit easy. I'm using all-star + but don't seem to be giving up many runs or hits. When I was leveling up to all-star+ I was getting close to hof but still only about a run a game. Hitting is tough though and I'm getting low scores but I don't mind this and am just hoping to improve.

            Anything I can try ?
            Are you using default and calling your own game? As in, you’re not using the catchers signs?

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            • packmanuk
              MVP
              • Aug 2002
              • 1095

              #486
              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

              Originally posted by TopSide83
              Are you using default and calling your own game? As in, you’re not using the catchers signs?
              Yes I'm calling my own game and have all the settings from the first page such as vibration off. I'm really not that good at these games so I can't work it out. I'm playing as the brewers.

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              • Rmiok222
                MVP
                • Nov 2015
                • 3129

                #487
                JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                Josh I just wanted to let you know how much of a game changer all star + has been for me. It’s the EXACT difficulty I need for this game. It’s been loads of fun.


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                Last edited by Rmiok222; 05-16-2021, 10:23 PM.

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                • leafsfan67
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2020
                  • 616

                  #488
                  Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                  Originally posted by JoshC1977
                  Steps for Using Dynamic Difficulty:

                  Lots of new players this year; so let's not assume everyone knows everything. I've referenced "All Star Plus" in my thread and I'm sure many folks don't know what that is. MLB The Show has something called "Dynamic Difficulty". If you set the game difficulty to "Dynamic", the game will adjust what level you're playing on based on your performance. So you can go from Rookie all the way up to Legend. In the slider screen, there is a dynamic difficulty sensitivity slider that allows you to adjust how quickly the level will change based on performance. Set to 0, it won't budge.

                  Here's the super-cool thing. There are "plus" levels which are middle-grounds between difficulties and these are often fantastic for many players. So, instead of going from All Star to Hall of Fame, you go from All Star to All Star+ to Hall of Fame. I really love All Star+ because it is still a ratings-based format (unlike the more arcade-like HOF difficulty) but it also provides that little extra edge I want. Here's how you get there.

                  1. Go into game settings and change hitting and pitching to dynamic.
                  2. Load sliders, make sure the dynamic difficulty sensitivity slider is set to 5. (It can be higher as well while you do your run to boost the difficulty).
                  3. Save any changes to the sliders.
                  4. Go into a Play Now game and see what level it has you set to (there will be a pop-up).
                  5. Play the game and wait for it to go to AS+. (now...if it starts you at a lower level...go ahead and boost the sensitivity slider to 10 and/or bias the sliders completely in your favor - this all will just make it go faster).
                  6. Once you hit AS+ on both hitting and pitching, exit the game you're playing. Go and load the OP sliders and then change the dynamic difficulty sensistivity slider to 0. That will lock you into AS+.
                  7. Once in franchise, double check your game settings and sliders and make sure they are what you want.

                  Nuances of Classic Pitching
                  You definitely have some control over pitch outcome. How long you hold the button matters. It affects pitch speed, command, and the amount of break on breaking pitches. It just isn't 'push a button and go'...there is far more subtlety in it. In fact, if you simply tap the button, it is an excellent way to get shelled".

                  When pitching in classic, you have about a 1 second time period before you get the controller vibration (i.e. max-effort). The following are my observations...

                  Max effort pitches (holding the button down till the vibration) result in the following:
                  More velocity
                  Less control
                  A sharper break on breaking pitches
                  Pitches tend to rise more

                  Minimum effort pitches (tapping the button) results in the following:
                  Less velocity
                  Better control
                  "Loopier" breaking balls (especially curves/sliders
                  Pitches sink more (due to lower velo) - changeups will pretty constantly wind up in the dirt
                  In many cases, an "intermediate" duration is optimal. However, you can vary this from pitch to pitch (i.e. like a pitcher adding/subtracting from the speed of the pitch). This is a tremendous way to keep hitters off-balance to help to avoid them getting solid contact/timing.

                  For those of you who have pitched IRL, think of the button press duration as your arm velocity. Full duration is you using your max arm velocity, tapping is like you taking a lot off the pitch.

                  This is definitely just the tip of the iceberg, but should get folks started.
                  Great sliders I'm going to try your All-Star+ sliders. Probably a silly question but when you say load your OP sliders what are OP?

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                  • GrantNOhio
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2020
                    • 104

                    #489
                    JoshC plus my way

                    So I hate to beat a dead horse.
                    …But
                    I use Sliders by JoshC
                    And I have settings at Dynamic Difficulty… so
                    I have It set at 8 right now… I play as the Braves and I play as the Tribe and Mariners. Last night I lost by 1 then beat down the tribe 6-2…
                    So… THE QUESTION!!! ??? Is this
                    What should my Dynamic be set at? I ask this because I swear through 8 innings I only saw it “adjust like 2 times”
                    Should I Max it out??? So it don’t get to easy on me so it adjust fast harder or easier
                    Or should I leave it as is
                    Any Advice here crew?
                    Thanks 🙏 have a great week

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                    • JoshC1977
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 11564

                      #490
                      Re: JoshC plus my way

                      Originally posted by GrantNOhio
                      So I hate to beat a dead horse.
                      …But
                      I use Sliders by JoshC
                      And I have settings at Dynamic Difficulty… so
                      I have It set at 8 right now… I play as the Braves and I play as the Tribe and Mariners. Last night I lost by 1 then beat down the tribe 6-2…
                      So… THE QUESTION!!! ??? Is this
                      What should my Dynamic be set at? I ask this because I swear through 8 innings I only saw it “adjust like 2 times”
                      Should I Max it out??? So it don’t get to easy on me so it adjust fast harder or easier
                      Or should I leave it as is
                      Any Advice here crew?
                      Thanks 🙏 have a great week
                      Refer to the second post of this thread for steps in setting your dynamic difficulty to AS+.
                      Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                      • JoshC1977
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 11564

                        #491
                        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                        Originally posted by leafsfan67
                        Great sliders I'm going to try your All-Star+ sliders. Probably a silly question but when you say load your OP sliders what are OP?
                        OP = Opening Post

                        (i.e. the first post in the thread - where we house the current version of the sliders)
                        Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                        • JoshC1977
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 11564

                          #492
                          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                          Originally posted by packmanuk
                          Yes I'm calling my own game and have all the settings from the first page such as vibration off. I'm really not that good at these games so I can't work it out. I'm playing as the brewers.
                          The Brewers pitching is pretty solid. I'm inclined to tell you to double check all of your settings and if good, just 'stay the course'.
                          Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                          • leafsfan67
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 616

                            #493
                            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                            Originally posted by JoshC1977
                            OP = Opening Post

                            (i.e. the first post in the thread - where we house the current version of the sliders)
                            Thanks, too many get slideritis and change this and change that affecting this slider and that. Also wasting so much time. You have a great approach. Awesome and also using your rosters, good work.

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                            • rlb1976
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 617

                              #494
                              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                              Hey Josh or anyone who wants to reply. I’ve been playing my franchise with Dynamic Difficult set on 5 basically waiting to go to all star +. The notification setting is on but I haven’t seen it change. I’m 10 games in. When you go into manually save your game it will show sliders need to be saved if the game has adjusted anything (I think that’s why). Is there a reason I’m not getting a notification saying I’m at all star plus? I’ve won 8 of 10 games.

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                              • bryanm1982
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 3785

                                #495
                                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                                Originally posted by rlb1976
                                Hey Josh or anyone who wants to reply. I’ve been playing my franchise with Dynamic Difficult set on 5 basically waiting to go to all star +. The notification setting is on but I haven’t seen it change. I’m 10 games in. When you go into manually save your game it will show sliders need to be saved if the game has adjusted anything (I think that’s why). Is there a reason I’m not getting a notification saying I’m at all star plus? I’ve won 8 of 10 games.
                                Do you have it set to Progress or new level? You might be winning but if you aren't getting a lot of hits, you won't increase it that fast. Home runs really make it raise fast but outs also lower it a bit. Make sure it is set to notify you on progress and you should see it display before each AB.
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