S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

[DonkeyJote]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

How do you guys not get way too many walks at user control/consistency at 4? Whenever I've tried to go below 5, I walk around 7-9 batters per game.

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[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

How do you guys not get way too many walks at user control/consistency at 4? Whenever I've tried to go below 5, I walk around 7-9 batters per game.

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That is crazy. I’m averaging 2.6. I’ve had 0 and the high of 8 in a game. Are you letting your catcher call the pitches?

[DonkeyJote]

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My last game I had control at 5 and consistency at 4 and walked 9. Offspeed stuff in particular isn't anywhere close most of the time. I don't strictly go by the catcher, but I don't see how that would make a huge difference as far as general command goes. Even at 5/5, I've averaged 4.5 walks per game.

I've just seen the 4/4 setup on a couple sets, and it's strange to me that in trying that my walks are crazy high.

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[DarthRambo]

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My last game I had control at 5 and consistency at 4 and walked 9. Offspeed stuff in particular isn't anywhere close most of the time. I don't strictly go by the catcher, but I don't see how that would make a huge difference as far as general command goes. Even at 5/5, I've averaged 4.5 walks per game.

I've just seen the 4/4 setup on a couple sets, and it's strange to me that in trying that my walks are crazy high.

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I am averaging 1.95 walks per game so far. Are you not using a ball marker? We both use classic fade. Throwing blind never made sense to me. Tried it multiple times and hated it.

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[DonkeyJote]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

I am averaging 1.95 walks per game so far. Are you not using a ball marker? We both use classic fade. Throwing blind never made sense to me. Tried it multiple times and hated it.

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No I use classic fade as well. Started using it last year. Throwing blind also doesn't make much sense to me.

I did an experiment. I went into a game at 4/4, and threw pitches without moving the cursor. These are starting middle/middle. I used Patrick Sandoval's Circle Change (85 control) and Slider (82 control) along with Framer Valdez's Sinker (77 control) and Curveball (85 control). I was just tapping the button, which from my understanding gives you the greatest control. The curve and slider are pretty much just random at that point, despite good control pitchers.

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[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

That sort of control is going to be that way no matter the settings. To be honest those circle change locations look pretty good for a cold pitcher with minimal confidence. And idk what the break is on the slider, but where the arrows end on ball marker is the spot you're aiming. So if you didn't touch the controller then most of those look really good too depending how much break his slider has.

The sinker pitch locations look solid imo. Curveball is the worst one but I see a lot more down than up so that's a good thing too. For a cold pitcher with minimal to low confidence in those pitches I think those are about what you'd expect. Get some foul offs and outs with a specific pitch then confidence goes up. Now the control is even better. And Idk if tapping gives you more control or not.

It's crazy you issue so many walks. Most have a hard time issuing any at all. The confidence in each pitch plays the biggest factor in it hitting the mark or not imo though. Maybe try to aim further inside the zone? If I notice I'm missing a pitch low I aim a bit higher than where I really want it to go. If my slider is way off I aim it back some to try and get it to go where I want it. Until confidence is built up anyway. Then you can really start painting corners more frequently. Me doing that backfires though sometimes and the pitch stays up and get crushed.

It's very much a feel when pitching using classic pitching which I assume you understand and know. Really not sure what else may help you. I struggle issuing more than two per game a lot of times.

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[DonkeyJote]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

That sort of control is going to be that way no matter the settings. To be honest those circle change locations look pretty good for a cold pitcher with minimal confidence. And idk what the break is on the slider, but where the arrows end on ball marker is the spot you're aiming. So if you didn't touch the controller then most of those look really good too depending how much break his slider has.

The sinker pitch locations look solid imo. Curveball is the worst one but I see a lot more down than up so that's a good thing too. For a cold pitcher with minimal to low confidence in those pitches I think those are about what you'd expect. Get some foul offs and outs with a specific pitch then confidence goes up. Now the control is even better. And Idk if tapping gives you more control or not.

It's crazy you issue so many walks. Most have a hard time issuing any at all. The confidence in each pitch plays the biggest factor in it hitting the mark or not imo though. Maybe try to aim further inside the zone? If I notice I'm missing a pitch low I aim a bit higher than where I really want it to go. If my slider is way off I aim it back some to try and get it to go where I want it. Until confidence is built up anyway. Then you can really start painting corners more frequently. Me doing that backfires though sometimes and the pitch stays up and get crushed.

It's very much a feel when pitching using classic pitching which I assume you understand and know. Really not sure what else may help you. I struggle issuing more than two per game a lot of times.

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Fastballs in general are pretty good. Changeups feel okay. But off speed is bad. I did the same thing again with Sandoval but indicated where the pitch's end point should be. Only about half of his pitches are even in the neighborhood, and only 3 are within the equivalent of one zone of the intended target.

And he's not really starting with low confidence. He's started with 75% overall confidence and around 50% overall.

I did discover something weird though, and maybe I'll give it a try. Just to be more exact, I turned on pitch trail. And I discovered that the starting target for the pitch with that moved around pretty drastically, whereas it's always the same on classic. Weird.

Like, I said, I've gotten better results raising control. And the reason I switched to Classic was because I had to pitch on Legend+ on Pinpoint and still didn't walk enough batters. So I was just honestly curious as to how I was getting such different results, and was kinda figuring I was just executing something wrong.

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[DarthRambo]

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Yeah classic is the way to go. Just as real life, start with your fastball and work in your breaking pitches. The ability to hit dead on where you aim with a slider or curveball should not be easy from the start. You'll get better as you keep using classic. At first it does feel you have very little control but the more you pitch with it the more you realize you have a lot of control in different ways than just aiming a pitch and pushing the button to throw.

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[bryanm1982]

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The Mariners swept the first-place Red Sox in Boston in the 4 game series. This series was actually tested with power for both teams at 3. We still want to test it to make sure it will be viable long term. Especially since it will be so unconventional. As you can see, the power is still there.

Game one:

SEA 5 8 3
BOS 3 12 0

W- Matt Brash ( 1 - 3 )
L- James Paxton ( 4 - 3 )
S- Paul Sewald ( 13 )

SEA SP- Brash 5 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 5.79 ERA
BOS SP- Paxton 4 IP, 5 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 4.94 ERA

SEA HRs- France (8) Winker (21) Suarez (7)
BOS HRs- Devers (12)

PotG- Sewald SV, 1 IP, 1 BB, 3 K

Notes - Suarez hit his 200th HR. Devers extended his hitting streak to 20 games.

Game two:

SEA 3 7 0
BOS 1 4 1

W- Mike Foltynewicz ( 2 - 0 )
L- Chris Sale ( 6 - 1 )
S- Paul Sewald ( 14 )

SEA SP- Foltynewicz 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 7 K, 0.73 ERA
BOS SP- Sale 5 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 3.17 ERA

SEA HRs- None
BOS HRs- None

PotG- Foltynewicz W, 6 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 3 BB, 7 K

Notes -

Game three:

SEA 10 15 1
BOS 0 3 1

W- Logan Gilbert ( 5 - 2 )
L- Nick Pivetta ( 1 - 4 )
S- None

SEA SP- Gilbert 6 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 13 K, 2.83 ERA
BOS SP- Pivetta 4.2 IP, 7 H, 6 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 7.64 ERA

SEA HRs- France (9)
BOS HRs- None

PotG- Gilbert W, 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 13 K

Notes - SEA had 17 total K for game. 10 runs scored with 1 solo HR

Game four:

SEA 6 10 2
BOS 5 8 0

W- Trevor Rosenthal ( 1 - 0 )
L- Matt Strahm ( 0 - 2 )
S- Paul Sewald ( 15 )

SEA SP- Gonzales 4 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 4.70 ERA
BOS SP- Houck 4 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 4.87 ERA

SEA HRs- Raleigh (2)
BOS HRs- Hernandez (2)

PotG- Hernandez (2) 1 for 3 - HR, 3 RBI

Notes - Mariners won 6 in a row. Back and forth game has it was 6-5 after 5 innings but both bullpens settled in.

~~Injury news~~
Robbie Ray Broken Forearm 1-2 months


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Up Next:

Athletics ( 19 - 29 , 4th AL West , 12.0 gb ) @
Mariners ( 31 - 17 , 1st AL West , -5.0 gb )

Game one: Brent Honeywell ( 3 - 3 ) 4.40 ERA vs Chris Flexen ( 6 - 2 ) 4.78 ERA

Game two: Gunnar Hoglund ( 1 - 6 ) 5.89 ERA vs Matt Brash ( 1 - 3 ) 5.79 ERA

Game three: Frankie Montas ( 1 - 5 ) 6.75 ERA vs Mike Foltynewicz ( 2 - 0 ) 0.73 ERA

[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

The Mariners swept the first-place Red Sox in Boston in the 4 game series. This series was actually tested with power for both teams at 3. We still want to test it to make sure it will be viable long term. Especially since it will be so unconventional. As you can see, the power is still there.

Game one:

SEA 5 8 3
BOS 3 12 0

W- Matt Brash ( 1 - 3 )
L- James Paxton ( 4 - 3 )
S- Paul Sewald ( 13 )

SEA SP- Brash 5 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 5.79 ERA
BOS SP- Paxton 4 IP, 5 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 4.94 ERA

SEA HRs- France (8) Winker (21) Suarez (7)
BOS HRs- Devers (12)

PotG- Sewald SV, 1 IP, 1 BB, 3 K

Notes - Suarez hit his 200th HR. Devers extended his hitting streak to 20 games.

Game two:

SEA 3 7 0
BOS 1 4 1

W- Mike Foltynewicz ( 2 - 0 )
L- Chris Sale ( 6 - 1 )
S- Paul Sewald ( 14 )

SEA SP- Foltynewicz 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 7 K, 0.73 ERA
BOS SP- Sale 5 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 3.17 ERA

SEA HRs- None
BOS HRs- None

PotG- Foltynewicz W, 6 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 3 BB, 7 K

Notes -

Game three:

SEA 10 15 1
BOS 0 3 1

W- Logan Gilbert ( 5 - 2 )
L- Nick Pivetta ( 1 - 4 )
S- None

SEA SP- Gilbert 6 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 13 K, 2.83 ERA
BOS SP- Pivetta 4.2 IP, 7 H, 6 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 7.64 ERA

SEA HRs- France (9)
BOS HRs- None

PotG- Gilbert W, 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 13 K

Notes - SEA had 17 total K for game. 10 runs scored with 1 solo HR

Game four:

SEA 6 10 2
BOS 5 8 0

W- Trevor Rosenthal ( 1 - 0 )
L- Matt Strahm ( 0 - 2 )
S- Paul Sewald ( 15 )

SEA SP- Gonzales 4 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 4.70 ERA
BOS SP- Houck 4 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 4.87 ERA

SEA HRs- Raleigh (2)
BOS HRs- Hernandez (2)

PotG- Hernandez (2) 1 for 3 - HR, 3 RBI

Notes - Mariners won 6 in a row. Back and forth game has it was 6-5 after 5 innings but both bullpens settled in.

~~Injury news~~
Robbie Ray Broken Forearm 1-2 months


____________________________________________

Up Next:

Athletics ( 19 - 29 , 4th AL West , 12.0 gb ) @
Mariners ( 31 - 17 , 1st AL West , -5.0 gb )

Game one: Brent Honeywell ( 3 - 3 ) 4.40 ERA vs Chris Flexen ( 6 - 2 ) 4.78 ERA

Game two: Gunnar Hoglund ( 1 - 6 ) 5.89 ERA vs Matt Brash ( 1 - 3 ) 5.79 ERA

Game three: Frankie Montas ( 1 - 5 ) 6.75 ERA vs Mike Foltynewicz ( 2 - 0 ) 0.73 ERA

Your team is getting better as the year goes on.

Do you play all your games in the modern stadiums?
I want to play some games at Shea Stadium.
Do you think that would ruin the realism?

[bryanm1982]

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Your team is getting better as the year goes on.

Do you play all your games in the modern stadiums?
I want to play some games at Shea Stadium.
Do you think that would ruin the realism?

I would think that would be pretty cool. I don't think it would ruin the realism. Now if you did the really old stadiums with the huge outfields that might hurt your HR numbers lol.

I'm on the PS5 and I have found a created stadium for the new Oakland stadium so I'm going to use that for the A's when I play there.

[Head Coach]

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I would think that would be pretty cool. I don't think it would ruin the realism. Now if you did the really old stadiums with the huge outfields that might hurt your HR numbers lol.

I'm on the PS5 and I have found a created stadium for the new Oakland stadium so I'm going to use that for the A's when I play there.

Thanks .
When I play the Braves on the road I want to use the old Atlanta stadium.

It helps keep the game fun when you play all 162.
I will have to look at some created ones.

[bryanm1982]

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Thanks .
When I play the Braves on the road I want to use the old Atlanta stadium.

It helps keep the game fun when you play all 162.
I will have to look at some created ones.

That kind of makes me want to do a National League franchise just to see the NL parks. When I played the Mets in that series, the sounds of those planes are really cool.

[Head Coach]

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That kind of makes me want to do a National League franchise just to see the NL parks. When I played the Mets in that series, the sounds of those planes are really cool.

Likewise for me and the American League.
I really want to do a Marlins one next but I might have to try an AL team.

Funny you mention the planes. I am so used to seeing the planes that I don't even pay them any attention any more.

[DonkeyJote]

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I play DD some besides Franchise, and I'll normally bounce around the different parks (including classics) when I play that. Right now my favorites have been Comerica, the old Rangers park, and Sportsman's.

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