Armor & Sword’s MLB The Show 22 Classic/Directional/Clean Screen Simulation Sliders

[MoneyMan17]

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I've gotta ask and see if it's just me...

Does anyone else, for no particular reason, feel like you either consistently struggle badly or hit phenomenally with any particular players?

No idea why, but year after year, I can NOT hit with Aaron Judge and I absolutely MASH with Stanton. I can't even think of a reason besides maybe I psych myself out that Judge is a modern-day super star so I feel like I need to be great with him, therefore chase bad pitches and get too in my head when batting with him.

This goes back at least 3-4 years... since Stanton has been with the Yankees. Regardless of in game ratings or sliders, I can play all 162 and consistently land with Judge hitting 20-25 homers with a .230-.250 average, and can consistently count on Stanton to literally hit 50+ with a .280+ average.

Currently in my 22 franchise, Stanton leads the Majors with 12 bombs in the first week of May and a .310 avg. Judge has 4 homers, a .218 average and a .386 SLG. Again, not unique to this year or this game and it's a problem that seems to follow me every year. Anyone else???

[Scotters1976]

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I think you need to keep playing and playing and playing because you will have plenty of games you won’t be great at the plate and you will have games the opposing pitcher will go 6-7 innings on you like you see in the MLB.

And BTW you should want the pitcher leaving like that....is that not the point of working the counts and getting their pitch counts up so much and so early? You want to get to that bullpen and do some damage.

8 is the right number.

Cool. I do the same thing. Thanks Armor.
I have a goal to have the opposing pitcher average around 15 pitches per inning and have them reach at least 75 by the 5th inning for that exact reason....to chase them out of the game.

Cool. I do the same thing. Thanks Armor.

[Burgess]

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I am happy to update the OP this morning to Version 2 and this will be our last update (barring anything whacky due to a patch but I don’t anticipate that) for this cycle.


We got in over 55 plus test games with this update between myself and RaiderRen and we really are pleased with how the game has “opened” up in terms of a truly wide variety of human hitting outcomes vs far too many "three outcome" results.

Something I want to really stress. Do not get hung up with what the “values” are and really allow yourself to trust the settings and simply play the game and I can promise you over the course of 162 you will see, feel and experience a much better all around game of baseball.

The changes were very subtle.....but highly effective and for myself and Raider truly “unlocked” the human hitting variety (and CPU for that matter) we felt was lacking. Not that V1.75 was not good.....it is a very good base set and by all means you can stick with it. But this last round of testing really unveiled what I really look for with baseball.

More bloopers, bleeders, fly ball singles, more down the line doubles, more gap to gap singles and doubles, more manufactured run innings vs big fly innings, better CPU hitting variety as well.

Make no mistake....the CPU is formidable and they will punish you for mistakes.

So let’s go over what has changed:


Human Contact from 6 to 7 - Ok so let’s get the one out of the way.....it is fantastic. This really opened up the hitting variety. It just needed a one click push and after 60 plus games it is apparent it is working and working brilliantly. Don’t worry about the “number” just trust it in combination with power at 5 solid hits and foul frequency at 4

Human/CPU starter stamina from 7 to 8 - I simply was seeing too many high stamina horses gassed too soon. Plain and simple. This also harkens the game back to a premium and having a high value on high stamina starters. Trust it. It is great.

Human/CPU reliever stamina from 6 to 7 - Here we had been seeing over the course of 100 plus games tested on 1.75 between myself and RaiderRen too many instances of bullpen arms gassed after 15-16 pitches....unacceptable. That is not Major League pitching. Trust this.

Human Pitch Consistency from 4 to 5 - back to default! Yes way too many pitches that miss and we can’t have that on HOF. We need the ratings to be far truer and the attempt to ratings stretch pitchers failed. Too many top 2 rotation guys not hitting their spots more consistently.....you will still get mistake pitches....beleive me plenty of em. And lower rated starters and relievers will get hit more often than higher rated. It feels right at default.

CPU Contact from 6 to 5 - Yes you read that right. And the reason is far too many line drives and blasts vs bleeders, bloops, choppers, down the line and gaps....again too much 3 outcome baseball for "my taste”. This setting in combination with the other adjustment listed below is money. And the CPU is able to rally, have manufactured innings but can also be tamed by a great pitcher with great stuff or even a 5th starter on that rare night. Remember we play all 162....critical to get that variable outcome experience. If your not playing every game every pitch you are not going to experience the statistical and performance variety....we are very specific in how we approach this game.

CPU Solid Hits from 4 to 3 - huge one click adjustment here that unleashed CPU hit variety. Try to keep in mind the CPU is not the Human......they simply are not. As a human you have so many “human factors” going into your hitting performance where the CPU is coded and programed and this one small click to 3 and turning down contact to 5.....wow. So much better. Again....trust it.


Infield Throwing Errors from 6 to 5 - Yep....we were seeing too many wonky throws and throwing errors in general. At default 5 you will absolutely get them at a more realistic clip than forcing the issue with turning up this slider. Believe on this one....we were seeing just too many.

Infield Throwing Strength up to 5 from 4 - This was also needed. With infielder reaction at 4....you get the ratings stretch on range and with arm strength at 5 the guys who should have that gun...have them in deep hole or lay out plays. The strength at 4 was causing too many infield singles. You will still get em....make no mistake.


And that is what Version 2 is all about folks. I hope you have the same great results I have been getting. Offense feels so much better with these minor adjustments and human pitching is also more realistic and ratings actually come out even more in all facets of the game.

We are not looking back.

My advice for anyone is if you are loving 1.75 stick with it. If you want to see the human offense open up in a positive way (this is not making hitting any easier folks.....(believe me you will have cold streaks, low hit games etc) CPU offense variability open up, pitching more true to ratings, fielding be more true to ratings....I think V2 delivers on all fronts.

Armour, I’ve always trusted your sliders and just about to start my Phillies and Yankees franchises over with V2. But a couple of questions:

How does raising human contact to 7 NOT make hitting easier when this slider description says “shift to the right to increase batting averages”?

I certainly agree that cpu solid hits should play well at 3, as everything they hit was very solid prior. But why lower contact to 5 as well? I feel kind of guilty with human contact at 7 and cpu at 5, lol. In between practice games and 6 franchise games with 1.75, I have yet to see much offense from cpu (with teams like Astros and Rangers), I trust that will change with v2

Thanks again for your advice and hard work developing this slider set

[dowie]

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Anyone using these with higher pitch speeds? I use retro for a hitting camera which makes the pitch appears slower anyway so just wondering if I should put the speed up a few clicks?

I have been dabbling with retro view with some “play now” test games.

Pitches absolutely appear to be coming in slower than when I test with fish eye view.

I’d recommend bumping both up to 6 and play a couple of games against pitchers with high velocity. If you are still consistently pulling 95+ mph, increase to 7 and keep going till it becomes hard (but not impossible) to pull the heater.

I think 7 pitch speed may be the setting for most players hitting with retro view this year.

Dowie

[daytime10]

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I don’t seem to be striking out much… I’m using a OLED tv with game mode and 120hz VRR so I can see pitches pretty good.

What should I be increasing to make it more difficult? Pitch speeds? Or a skill level? A different view? I use offset zoom

Anyone else having this issue?

[livinitup921]

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About to stream my Mariners franchise using armors version 2 sliders and ridins roster.

[DavisAC12]

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I’m all over the place at the minute with sliders. Slider’itis’ as some call it. I play a lot of games and v2 for me is just too easy.. 15 hits, 12 hits, 3 home runs back to back to back. Contact 7 is far too easy for me personally … BUT contact at 6 I’m getting no hit until the 5-6th inning haha

I’m so lost. Happy hunting guys.


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[Armor and Sword]

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Gonna say it again…..don’t get hung up on what any of the values of the sliders are.

Plug them in and play and don’t look back, don’t get slideritis.

This hitting engine is different from 20. A lot different.

The heavy lifting of testing a large (a far larger sample than anyone here has done with these) sample size is done.

I am telling you guys who are thinking it’s “too easy” or how can that make sense” that it is money over the long haul.

If you can’t get past what the value’s are or simply don’t give it 50-60 games I really have nothing more to add.

I know what I have seen because it was tested over 60 plus games already.

Obviously not a full season but enough to see streaks, cold spells, good teams, elite teams, bad teams.

Just play.


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[TopSide83]

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Gonna say it again…..don’t get hung up on what any of the values of the sliders are.

Plug them in and play and don’t look back, don’t get slideritis.

This hitting engine is different from 20. A lot different.

The heavy lifting of testing a large (far larger sample than anyone here has done played with these) sample size is done.

I am telling you guys who are thinking it’s “too easy” or how can that make sense” that it is money over the long haul.

If you can’t get past what the value’s are or simply don’t give it 50-60 games I really have nothing more to add.

I know what I have seen because it was tested over 60 plus games already.

Obviously not a full season but enough to see streaks, cold spells, good teams, elite teams, bad teams.

Just play.


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Agreed, they look off but they work really well. Gonna post my stats for the last five games with the sliders so people can see the variety of games I’m getting

[Jeffrey Smith]

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I’m using this set up and sliders with my Reds franchise and so far it’s been a real grind. ( the good kind)

Have a record of 6-9 through the first 15 games. I’ve been hanging tough most games win or lose.

Really finding it playing more realistic than previous years. Braves and Dodgers were tough,tough, tough. Pirates and Cubs not so much.

I’ve got to say though that playing with a pretty bad team is a commitment. You’re basically playing every game looking for those small successes. But when you get them it’s so satisfying.


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[Armor and Sword]

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I’m using this set up and sliders with my Reds franchise and so far it’s been a real grind. ( the good kind)

Have a record of 6-9 through the first 15 games. I’ve been hanging tough most games win or lose.

Really finding it playing more realistic than previous years. Braves and Dodgers were tough,tough, tough. Pirates and Cubs not so much.

I’ve got to say though that playing with a pretty bad team is a commitment. You’re basically playing every game looking for those small successes. But when you get them it’s so satisfying.


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You are a brave man!!!

Once I am done with Year 1 of my Yankees (we are already in June!!!) I am going to start another franchise with Ridins roster (updated by Philly and Scott with full equipment updates) and play as the Royals. That will be a nice challenge and a grind franchise.

Meantime.....Yankees Year 1 is rolling on.....the month of May update is coming to the news wire with player stats, standings and some news stories as the races start to heat up, MVP and CY Young races are heating up and an article on the big trade the Bronx Bombers pulled off sending Joey Gallo and Jordan Montgomery to the Friars for Blake Snell and two pitching prospects.

Also a Draft Recap for the Yankees is also going to be featured. We actually had a solid year 1 draft and we are pleased with the future of this team.

[DavisAC12]

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I know and I appreciate all the work you’ve done in playing and testing. I’m an over thinker so this type of thing works directly against me all the time [emoji23].

I’ll keep on plugging away!


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[vertman]

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I've gotta ask and see if it's just me...



Does anyone else, for no particular reason, feel like you either consistently struggle badly or hit phenomenally with any particular players?



No idea why, but year after year, I can NOT hit with Aaron Judge and I absolutely MASH with Stanton. I can't even think of a reason besides maybe I psych myself out that Judge is a modern-day super star so I feel like I need to be great with him, therefore chase bad pitches and get too in my head when batting with him.



This goes back at least 3-4 years... since Stanton has been with the Yankees. Regardless of in game ratings or sliders, I can play all 162 and consistently land with Judge hitting 20-25 homers with a .230-.250 average, and can consistently count on Stanton to literally hit 50+ with a .280+ average.



Currently in my 22 franchise, Stanton leads the Majors with 12 bombs in the first week of May and a .310 avg. Judge has 4 homers, a .218 average and a .386 SLG. Again, not unique to this year or this game and it's a problem that seems to follow me every year. Anyone else???

Absolutely. I am in the same boat as you. I crush with Stanton and Judge is hit and miss. The 2 guys I hit the best with are Andujar and Higoshioka. Miggy is a pretty good hitter but Higoshioka is not but I seem to do well with him.


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[PhlliesPhan6]

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I've gotta ask and see if it's just me...

Does anyone else, for no particular reason, feel like you either consistently struggle badly or hit phenomenally with any particular players?

No idea why, but year after year, I can NOT hit with Aaron Judge and I absolutely MASH with Stanton. I can't even think of a reason besides maybe I psych myself out that Judge is a modern-day super star so I feel like I need to be great with him, therefore chase bad pitches and get too in my head when batting with him.

This goes back at least 3-4 years... since Stanton has been with the Yankees. Regardless of in game ratings or sliders, I can play all 162 and consistently land with Judge hitting 20-25 homers with a .230-.250 average, and can consistently count on Stanton to literally hit 50+ with a .280+ average.

Currently in my 22 franchise, Stanton leads the Majors with 12 bombs in the first week of May and a .310 avg. Judge has 4 homers, a .218 average and a .386 SLG. Again, not unique to this year or this game and it's a problem that seems to follow me every year. Anyone else???

I don't know about hitting in general with different players but I definitely struggle with Home Run Disparities. I hit too many HRs with my sluggers and hit no HRs with others. I just finished April witb the Phillies and have 11 HRs with Castellanos but 0 with Jean Segura or Alec Bohm. I'll see how it plays out over May.

[jcar0725]

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I’m using this set up and sliders with my Reds franchise and so far it’s been a real grind. ( the good kind)

Have a record of 6-9 through the first 15 games. I’ve been hanging tough most games win or lose.

Really finding it playing more realistic than previous years. Braves and Dodgers were tough,tough, tough. Pirates and Cubs not so much.

I’ve got to say though that playing with a pretty bad team is a commitment. You’re basically playing every game looking for those small successes. But when you get them it’s so satisfying.


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This is me, with my Guardians rebuild. The payoff in the end will be great, but getting there is going to be a GRINDDDDDD.

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