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  • bryanm1982
    MVP
    • Nov 2016
    • 3786

    #1006
    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

    Originally posted by Gabby
    I was using sliders on first page before update. I will try 2/2 for user and 5/5 for CPU. I will also make other changes recommended earlier to increase my batting average. Other than walks and my low batting average great sliders.
    For your hitting, do you feel like you aren’t walking cause you are chasing or is the CPU throwing too many strikes?
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    • Chuid
      Rookie
      • Feb 2022
      • 18

      #1007
      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

      Testing v3 out now with the Phillies
      Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good, too.

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      • bryanm1982
        MVP
        • Nov 2016
        • 3786

        #1008
        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

        We were able to test the hook slider a little more and found that 5 works best. I’ll update the OP.
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        • Gabby
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          • Oct 2013
          • 97

          #1009
          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          For your hitting, do you feel like you aren’t walking cause you are chasing or is the CPU throwing too many strikes?
          I guess it probably is a little of both. I tend to swing at high pitches and breaking balls which start in the zone and end up outside. I guess I need more discipline at the plate. I will try recommendations and see what happens. Thanks

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          • Jayyd11
            Rookie
            • Jan 2023
            • 194

            #1010
            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

            I’ll try the new v3 but I’ll most likely stay with my 7/6/2/5/4 set up with max pitching speed, that plays great to me with the cpu 6/10 pitching. My hitting has a lot of variety, I’ll have games with 10 hits some 3-4 depending who is on the mound.

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            • Chuid
              Rookie
              • Feb 2022
              • 18

              #1011
              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

              Originally posted by Chuid
              Testing v3 out now with the Phillies
              Not a bad game
              Phi(me) 5 Tex(CPU) 2
              PHI: 11 hits 3 HRs: Hoskins, Realmuto (2)
              Tex: 7 hits 0 HRs
              Phi: Nola 7IP 6SO 1BB 2ER 8SO total from relief
              TEX: degrom 1.1IP(injury) 2 SO 9 total from relief 3 walks from relief as well
              Last edited by Chuid; 04-22-2023, 10:38 AM. Reason: Misspell
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              • DarthRambo
                MVP
                • Mar 2008
                • 6630

                #1012
                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                Originally posted by Jayyd11
                I’ll try the new v3 but I’ll most likely stay with my 7/6/2/5/4 set up with max pitching speed, that plays great to me with the cpu 6/10 pitching. My hitting has a lot of variety, I’ll have games with 10 hits some 3-4 depending who is on the mound.
                Yeah that makes sense. If I used max pitch speed I wouldn't hit for crap lol. 5 is perfectly fine for me with timing at 0 to kind of compensate for it.

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                • bryanm1982
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 3786

                  #1013
                  Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                  Originally posted by Chuid
                  Not a bad game
                  Phi(me) 5 Tex(CPU) 2
                  PHI: 11 hits 3 HRs: Hoskins, Realmuto (2)
                  Tex: 7 hits 0 HRs
                  Phi: Nola 7IP 6SO 1BB 2ER 8SO total from relief
                  TEX: degrom 1.1IP(injury) 2 SO 9 total from relief 3 walks from relief as well
                  Not bad. It’s nice to see the CPU offense get only 7 hits once in a while. I do notice that a lot of the strikeouts are from the bullpen.

                  Mariners just beat me (Cubs) 6-3. Wesneski was dealing going 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 7 K before the bullpen blew it giving up 6 runs in the 8th inning. They loaded the bases with no outs and then an error on a would be double play ball. Snowballed into a bad inning.

                  SEA 6 5 1 - 1 HR, 1 2B
                  CHC 3 8 1 - 1 3B, 1 2B
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                  • Lil Worm
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                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1315

                    #1014
                    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                    Just hopping on to do the fan boy thing lol.

                    Loving this years game and y’all’s set is playing perfect for me as usual. Thanks for the time and effort!!!


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                    • HeadCoach2.0
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 713

                      #1015
                      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                      I was up 4-0 on the A's and they came back and won 5-4.

                      It wasn't even entirely the comeback programming. A small mistake led to them being able to chip away at the lead and come back.

                      The next game I was up like 7-1 and had to hold on to win 8-5 with them trying to get back in the game in the 9th inning.

                      The Mets on the game have superior hitting and pitching but have average at best fielding and little team speed. The game plays true to life with as how the Mets really are.

                      I made a defense mistake which led to the A's coming back after being down 4-0.

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                      • dowie
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 1986

                        #1016
                        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                        Everyone still content with cpu bullpen set up?

                        8 RP's (2 worst pitchers with stamina under 40 in the long slots, RP with highest stamina in MID slot #4, and no RP in SU slot #2).

                        I wonder if it would work better if we forced the cpu to only carry 12 pitchers "5P and 7 RP"?

                        That way, no RP is in a long slot and you'd just put the worst rated RP in SU slot #2.

                        For those of us who use 30-team control, do you think the cpu would constantly change back to 13 pitchers if we tried to have them only carry 12?

                        Not gonna obsess over it, but sure would like to find a remedy for the cpu's wonky bullpen usage.


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                        • bryanm1982
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 3786

                          #1017
                          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                          Originally posted by dowie
                          Everyone still content with cpu bullpen set up?

                          8 RP's (2 worst pitchers with stamina under 40 in the long slots, RP with highest stamina in MID slot #4, and no RP in SU slot #2).

                          I wonder if it would work better if we forced the cpu to only carry 12 pitchers "5P and 7 RP"?

                          That way, no RP is in a long slot and you'd just put the worst rated RP in SU slot #2.

                          For those of us who use 30-team control, do you think the cpu would constantly change back to 13 pitchers if we tried to have them only carry 12?

                          Not gonna obsess over it, but sure would like to find a remedy for the cpu's wonky bullpen usage.


                          Dowie
                          Good question. I’ll test it out. I’ll start a single control season and set to 12 pitchers and see how it works. I’ll report back.
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                          • Jayyd11
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2023
                            • 194

                            #1018
                            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                            Anybody use meter with these sliders ?

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                            • bryanm1982
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 3786

                              #1019
                              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                              So I used the Cardinals since you would be familiar with them. Keep in mind real life good RP go about 60-70 appearances in a season. Stratton had 60 in 2022 and Gallegos had 54.

                              MR1: Hicks: 88 G, 97 IP, 3.25 ERA
                              MR2: Cabrera: 77 G, 79 IP, 5.01 ERA
                              MR3: Stratton: 78 G, 81 IP, 5.31 era
                              MR4: Thompson: 90 G, 134 IP, 4.35 era
                              SU1: Helsley: 62 G, 65 IP, 2.74 era
                              SU2: Pallante: 28 G, 21 IP, 5.14 era
                              CP: Gallegos: 54 G, 51 IP, 2.82 era

                              You have a bunch of overused pitchers with high eras. The setup and closers look good.

                              This is what they look like with the bullpen setup that we use on the OP.

                              LR1: Stratton 51 G, 88 IP, 3.87 era
                              LR2: Pallante 64 G, 128 IP, 4.34 era
                              MR1: Hicks 62 G, 59 IP, 3.79 era
                              MR2: Cabrera 49 G, 50 IP, 3.78 era
                              MR3: Woodford 44 G, 66 IP, 3.55 era
                              MR4: Thompson 28 G, 35 IP, 2.52 era
                              SU1: Helsley 38 G, 34 IP, 2.34 era
                              CP: Gallegos 44 G, 39 IP, 2.50 era

                              I noticed I had two guys in the bullpen with stamina in the 70’s (Woodford and Thompson) noticed Thompson only had 28 games.

                              So I did another one and put Ver Hagen instead of Woodford and lowered his stamina from 45 to 39.

                              LR1: Ver Hagen 53 G, 98 IP, 5.02 era
                              LR2: Pallante 64 G, 145 IP, 4.16 era
                              MR1: Hicks 49 G, 53 IP, 3.06 era
                              MR2: Cabrera 36 G, 36 IP, 2.48 era
                              MR3: Stratton 24 G, 18 IP, 6.75 era
                              MR4: Thompson 23 G, 28 IP, 2.86 era
                              SU1: Helsley 48 G, 45 IP, 4.37 era
                              CP: Gallegos 54 G, 48 IP, 2.40 era

                              That LR2 spot is killing the innings but Pallante does have stamina at 39. So I did another test and lowered their stamina to 23 to match other RP stamina.

                              LR1: Pallante 41 G, 65 IP, 4.66 era
                              LR2: Ver Hagen 59 G, 93 IP, 3.56 era
                              MR1: Hicks 70 G, 77 IP, 3.62 era
                              MR2: Cabrera 43 G, 38 IP, 3.79 era
                              MR3: Stratton 46 G, 46 IP, 4.89 era
                              MR4: Thompson 35 G, 49 IP, 3.47 era
                              SU1: Helsley 34 G, 29 IP, 2.76 era
                              CP: Gallegos 50 G, 45 IP, 3.20 era

                              That test showed that pitchers with stamina in the 20’s work better in the LR spots. So maybe the limit should be under 30 stamina?


                              Might be better if you have the LR pitchers with stamina in the 20’s or lower. Only have 1 long man in your bullpen.
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                              • bryanm1982
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                                • Nov 2016
                                • 3786

                                #1020
                                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                                Did one more test with only 1 LR spot with stamina in the 20’s. Lowest rated guy in the SU2 spot. If they gave us 5 MR spots it would be perfect.

                                LR1: Ver Hagen 30 G, 67 IP, 5.91 era
                                MR1: Hicks 71 G, 70 IP, 6.14 era
                                MR2: Cabrera 56 G, 55 IP, 4.37 era
                                MR3: Stratton 52 G, 54 IP, 3.46 era
                                MR4: Thompson 50 G, 73 IP, 2.09 era
                                SU1: Helsley 46 G, 41 IP, 4.61 era
                                SU2: Pallante 6 G, 6 IP, 3.00 era
                                CP: Gallegos 56 G, 50 IP, 4.14 era

                                Just shows how much that SU2 spot is broken. 6 games all year????

                                And a quick note, when I push sim season, I really don’t care who wins the Allstar game enough to make the sim stop and tell me.
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