NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

[inkcil]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

BLZER, not everyone is taking offense to your criticism of this game. (Im not choosing sides or hoping this thread becomes a forum for it either) After KUSH's 2K6 offering, I think it's fair for you/us to hold people accountable, too. I DO think that we ALL want this game to excell, however?

Last season was horrible for baseball gaming. I'd jump back & forth between 2K6 (360) & "The Show" all the time. I'd be enjoying one game for it's look, the other for it's substance... It really made it hard for me to complete a full season on either platform.

I know how much time you've put in playing, critiquing, & in most cases DEFENDING the 2K series... Keep it up! All of you... keep it up! Kush is getting closer baseball nirvana I think? But W/O some game play reassurances, I'll reserve judgement...

-GW-

I'll have to agree w/ you on this, especially the part about Blzr. It wasn't too long ago he was defending a game (2k5) that in my mind was close to garbage, especially compared to the competition. Now he's giving constructive criticism when the product is off. The way he defended 2k5, I don't see how anyone could think his rants about the 2k series prove nothing less than a guy who wants a series he desperately enjoyed (to the point of almost delusion at one time, no offense Blzr) to succeed.

[rm217]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

My only gripe thus far:

No active scoreboards for out of town games.... I swear ASB did this, but I could be mistaken. It's petty, I know, but I love looking out there and seeing actually scores from around the league.

That being said, if that is the only thing I have to be worried about I think we are in for a great year of baseball. Did 2k have progressive fatigue last year?

No working scoreboard I beg to differ. Look and pause at the 2min 46sec mark of the sound and art video interview and you'll be pleasantly surprised. They look like they work to me!

[rm217]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

My only gripe thus far:

No active scoreboards for out of town games.... I swear ASB did this, but I could be mistaken. It's petty, I know, but I love looking out there and seeing actually scores from around the league.

That being said, if that is the only thing I have to be worried about I think we are in for a great year of baseball. Did 2k have progressive fatigue last year?

Also look at the beginning of the In-Depth Interview video with Ben Birkman and in the upper right corner when Big Papi is batting you'll notice a working titantron, awesome. This game really has atmosphere and I love it! Next Gen should be all about immersion and I think this is what this game is going to have it in spades. Here you go 2K Sports, I will gladly hand over my 59.99 + tax for what looks like one hell of a game from the videos alone, I can only imagine what it will be like when I finally get my hands on it the day after my birthday. Happy Birthday to me from 2K Sports, thanks guys and yes I'm hella optimistic that this game will own and this is coming from a guy who couldn't get through one game of MLB 2K6! All hail 2K Sports in 2007, MLB 2K7, Legends Football 2K8, The Bigs (hopefully my Baseball Stars of baseball), NBA 2K8, Boxing 2K8, NHL 2K8, and who the hell else knows what. 2K Sports the saviors of videogame sports!!!

[baa7]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

trueblue,

Do me a favor, put the finger wag away.

You didn't say the magic word...

[baa7]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

If you want to make a wishlist thread, create it. Do not make every thread into your own personal complaint thread, especially when you dont even plan to buy the game.

He stated several times he's not complaining. He's discussing, just like everyone else here. Give the guy a break.

[baa7]

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(If anybody decides to say these two stadiums look the same, then I've lost all hope)

Not even close. They took the Yankee stadium template and used it for Busch. Lazy. I pointed that out last year Blzer and got blasted for it. Guess it's your turn to get kicked this year

[baa7]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

I'll have to agree w/ you on this, especially the part about Blzr. It wasn't too long ago he was defending a game (2k5) that in my mind was close to garbage, especially compared to the competition.

Exactly. Sad that people around here jump the guy. The fact is, all we've seen are improved graphics and not much more. Also, the pitching animations are improved. Past that, it's looks like 2K6 - same stilted running/fielding animations; same peculiar swing animations; same laser fly balls to the outfield. Nobody has any idea how it will play or whether we'll be able to get past the third inning without it freezing.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

It looks like people are not happy with the Running Animations. Guys you do know that the the Running Animations are Momentum Based. Also you do know that when fielding last year, as the user you were supposed to allow the Running Animation to begin before you took control of the player, this allowed for some fluidity in the Animation... When you don't allow the player to go into animation on their own, you usually got what you say in the video... Herky Jerky Animation..

It takes some getting use-to, because we were all familar with the Turn-Based Animation, when you could turn on a dime & chase a ball down.

[ericjwm]

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dude im not trying to cause conflict here, i dont get it. did i say stadiums suck? or that they werent good? no I said they didnt appear to be "redone" from last years version and i showed some proof. i mean the basic root of my prob w/this is that shea is untouched which angers me but im not going to not point out what ppl say if i feel they are wrong. nor am i going to turn away from someone who offers up evidence that i am wrong. if theres anything out there showing ppl that stadiums are re done, id like to see it, i will tell you im wrong. im not debating for the sake of it or to be a jerk or to hurt anyones feelings.

Uhhhhhh.... You do realize that the footage of Shea Stadium in the new in-depth interview is from last yrs 2K6 game, right? It would seem you don't, so I think you better watch again & turn up the volume so you can hear what he's talking about. What they were doing was a comparison of the old throwing animations, by showing a clip of 2K6.

I'm not saying that Shea is going to be drastically improved in 2K7. Heck, maybe it'll be exactly the same, but that IS a clip form last yrs game. So your whole stadium rant was seemingly over inconclusive evidence.

[K_GUN]

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I can't wait 'till this game comes out...imagine the nitpicking and the glitches that'll be posted all over the board...just to hear fans say "c'mon guys, it's the first year.." Except WSB 2K dates back to the Dreamcast days! 2k2 looks largerly the same as today's game..what does that say?

WOW, then blue shift then KUSH

3 diff developers

madden plays the same since oh i say 98

[HealyMonster]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

Uhhhhhh.... You do realize that the footage of Shea Stadium in the new in-depth interview is from last yrs 2K6 game, right? It would seem you don't, so I think you better watch again & turn up the volume so you can hear what he's talking about. What they were doing was a comparison of the old throwing animations, by showing a clip of 2K6.

I'm not saying that Shea is going to be drastically improved in 2K7. Heck, maybe it'll be exactly the same, but that IS a clip form last yrs game. So your whole stadium rant was seemingly over inconclusive evidence.

actually the only clip that i have seen that shows shea stadium is the trailer where noone is talking.so i have no clue what your talking about. it shows a double play with the "new animations" and then it shows beltran sliding in the OF making a catch. which looked darn good, just the stadium didnt change from 2k6. i dont understand why this is so hard to grasp. nooone here worked on the game so i cant understand why ppl get so offended when i critisize something. it makes no sense

[green94]

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No working scoreboard I beg to differ. Look and pause at the 2min 46sec mark of the sound and art video interview and you'll be pleasantly surprised. They look like they work to me!

Damn.... you had me excited for a second there! Look at the 1:21 mark in the video... St. Louis is playing the Dodgers in the video but on the scoreboard they are trailing Philly 7-4. The scoreboard appears to have teams and scores on it, it's just that none of them are right. Oh well.

[K_GUN]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

Oh, no doubt. Stadiums look damn right gorgeous! But, you know... it's things like when Busch Stadium looks like this in real life:









But in the game looks like this:











The stadium can look beautiful... but when there's that whole "authenticity" feel of the stadium that people crave... sometimes it's just not there like other games have it.

(If anybody decides to say these two stadiums look the same, then I've lost all hope)

blzr-


LAST YEAR called..they want your post back

seriously, it's what's wrong with madden....they actually had DEV's say "We even have EVERY SEAT down in EVERY stadium, row ZZ, SEC 99, seat 25 is in the game"

hey EA, who gives an "F-bomb"...you wasted all that time/energy into a part of the stadium i'll never see when throwing my 88 yard pass off my back foot

so KUSH...DO NOT spend any more time on stadiums...they're fine..focus on gameplay

[Sedihawk2K5]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

blzr-


LAST YEAR called..they want your post back

seriously, it's what's wrong with madden....they actually had DEV's say "We even have EVERY SEAT down in EVERY stadium, row ZZ, SEC 99, seat 25 is in the game"

hey EA, who gives an "F-bomb"...you wasted all that time/energy into a part of the stadium i'll never see when throwing my 88 yard pass off my back foot

so KUSH...DO NOT spend any more time on stadiums...they're fine..focus on gameplay

They certainly have re-done the Busch for this year. Look at the very first trailer released this year, about 10-15 seconds in you'll see a panning shot of the outfield towards the right-field line. Much better than last year, especially where the foul pole is in relation to the stands.

[silver540i]

Re: NEW GAMETRAILERS IN DEPTH INTERVIEW...not real realism...in depth jus posted

blzr-


LAST YEAR called..they want your post back

seriously, it's what's wrong with madden....they actually had DEV's say "We even have EVERY SEAT down in EVERY stadium, row ZZ, SEC 99, seat 25 is in the game"

hey EA, who gives an "F-bomb"...you wasted all that time/energy into a part of the stadium i'll never see when throwing my 88 yard pass off my back foot

so KUSH...DO NOT spend any more time on stadiums...they're fine..focus on gameplay

I'm taking the moderate stance on the stadium issue. Youre both right to be honest. It is a massive waste of time for devs to spend so much time on stadiums that I can find my exact seat, the fire extinguishers, peanut shells, etc. I agree that its a diminishing return. Make it as accurate as you can, and I can suspend my disbelief (so to speak) enough to enjoy myself.

That said, unlike football, baseball stadiums play a part in the game. The ball interacts with the field and often leaves the field. In Blazers example of the Cards stadium, I kind of agree that they could put a bit more detail into it, but I dont want them 100% perfect if it means spending a shiz load of time to do it, and there are still gameplay issues afoot. Unlike stadium accuracy, there is no diminishing return on improving gameplay. Ever step taken towards making it PLAY LIKE BASEBALL, is an important event.