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  • Altimus
    Chelsea, Assemble!
    • Nov 2004
    • 27283

    #436
    Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

    Originally posted by nemesis04
    Hopefully that wasn't the demo!
    From what I know the beta versions game reviewers get and demos put to the public are different beta versions. Usually the demo is the updated one.

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    • Artman22
      MVP
      • Jul 2006
      • 4985

      #437
      Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

      Originally posted by Spectre
      The audio is the biggest beef I have with the game. It hasn't changed a bit- I swear they said that they redid crowd interaction.

      I hope they're ironing it out. The on-field stuff is more important to me though but it'd be nice if the presentation and other stuff would see improvements.
      thats one thing I agree with u as well. I really hope they can get a new set of guys for next years game. It sounds to much like last years game.
      NBA2K is the standard of sports games period.

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      • michaeldu
        Banned
        • Feb 2004
        • 762

        #438
        Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

        Originally posted by FootballForever
        I'm not going back and reading this whole thread, but whats all the complaining about, I mean I see people who don't like the game abd are complaining, and people who do like the game complaining about the people who don't like it, bottom line is who cares, if you like it buy the game when it drops and you don't like it, then don't buy. People have opinions and other may not like them, Oh well.
        I hate that advice. "If you like it, buy it, if you don't like it, don't buy it. This is a forum to express your opinion. I love playing video game Baseball. I have a 360 only and I am NOT shelling out $400 for the show. At this point in next gen, I expect 2k8 to make me say wow, that's cool. Those videos did not do that for alot of us 360 owners. I will buy it because it's my only choice. There will be enough good to make a purchase, but come on, those videos did not do justice to what we have been reading or told.

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        • spankdatazz22
          All Star
          • May 2003
          • 6219

          #439
          Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

          Originally posted by mjb2124
          True. Although I guess I don't invest myself as much as some others in some of those things. Out of all the things you listed, the only one I care about is the Steelers since I'm a born and raised Pittsburgher. I believe that's in my blood. The rest....who cares? I'll just buy the best or multiple of all of the above.

          I respectfully disagree about 2K fans being overly defensive (not in general, but in certain instances/circumstances). This isn't something new either. Some of us on this board have been noticing it more frequently the last year or so and has been discussed behind closed doors and via PM. With that said, I think it goes both ways. Some have been very finicky and others have been overly sensitive. It's all a matter of opinion and I think both sides need to be respectful of the other instead of telling them they're wrong.

          Regarding the videos...so much depends on what you're looking for. I know you mentioned you aren't a big baseball fan and maybe that's why some things don't jump out at you or bother you (and most of these things don't have to do with what IGN was doing). For me, I saw things in those videos that have bothered me for 2 years now and still aren't fixed. The fact that those things are still there upsets me and is why I won't purchase this game unless the demo is a lot better. I guess one could say this was the straw that broke the camels back for me.
          And I can definitely respect and understand the "straw that breaks the camel's back" mentality - I've been at that point with the EA football games. Still, even with my distaste for what Tiburon has done since Madden 2003, I was mildly impressed with what they were saying in the dev blogs last year. Until the actual game(s) turned out to be almost completely different when gameplay video was shown. I guess since I'm not the baseball fanatic many of you are there are things I don't see in the short videos some of you are seeing. When people say Madden's a "beautiful game", I only see flaws, stiff movement, and areas where the game is sorely lacking.

          As far as 2K fans being overly defensive... I do think for some reason some 2K games are held to different standards and not judged fairly. IGN seemed to go out of their way to directly compare Madden and APF, despite the fact they're clearly not on level playing field because of NFL exclusivity. NBA2K seems to be held to a ridiculously high standard while people generally bear Live until it gets better. I've never felt that way regarding MLB2K, but if you look at the posts last night there was an AWFUL lot of "and that's why I got a PS3 for The Show" type points trying to be made.

          Either way, it's neither here nor there. I too was born and bred in Pittsburgh (McKeesport & Duquesne, now live in southern Maryland) and am a devoted Steeler fan. But I can understand when non-sports fans ask "why do you care if the Steelers lose?". Because I've invested myself personally so that I feel good when they win. It's something to care about. I understand when people say they can't care about a game unless they have money riding on it. I don't think it's any better or worse than people that get into "my pet is better" arguments, or prefer this operating system to that operating system. That people care if "their" game is better than a competitor's is maybe not the same as being a fan of a particular team, and may get labeled as fanboy wars, but imo it's not all that different.

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          • RoyalBoyle78
            Aka."Footballforever"
            • May 2003
            • 23918

            #440
            Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

            Originally posted by michaeldu
            I hate that advice. "If you like it, buy it, if you don't like it, don't buy it. This is a forum to express your opinion. I love playing video game Baseball. I have a 360 only and I am NOT shelling out $400 for the show. At this point in next gen, I expect 2k8 to make me say wow, that's cool. Those videos did not do that for alot of us 360 owners. I will buy it because it's my only choice. There will be enough good to make a purchase, but come on, those videos did not do justice to what we have been reading or told.
            thats was my point, I didn't think the vids looked that great.
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            • Blzer
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              • Mar 2004
              • 42525

              #441
              Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

              Originally posted by Altimus GTR
              From what I know the beta versions game reviewers get and demos put to the public are different beta versions. Usually the demo is the updated one.
              While it's the most updated, they also have to compress it so much just so it can fit in the marketplace. They probably have to dumb down a lot, like the blandness we saw in the DEMO IMPRESSIONS thread with the screenshots. So in a way, the demo still won't give the game the justice it deserves.
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              • jim416
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 10606

                #442
                Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                Yes, a short vid, but there were some telltale things for me.

                1. The pitcher covering 3rd. Looked at where the 3rd baseman is standing, six feet from the bag, erect, his legs shuffling back and forth, staring into the stands behind firstbase. I'm just concerned about the coding and will it affect more plays like that.

                2. Cutoff man with his hands up looking for cutoff on homer.
                3. Ball not being cutoff and rolling all the way to third.

                Yes, the game is gorgeous, stadiums look fantastic to me, but I, myself am just a little concerned with some of the AI logic on this early (not that early) release. I hope 2k takes steps to show their game off more and that these types of things are not in the logic this year, or that this one particular play (#1) was just a temp glitch.

                I know when I did a full roster set for this game a couple years ago I tried every thing conceivable (with attributes) to make the 3rd baseman charge bunts, but nothing really worked. They fixed it last year, but is it raising its ugly head again? I just hope this bug (#1 above) is not common place on plays at third.

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                • bdseed316
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 330

                  #443
                  Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                  Are they going to release any Wii media? I haven't seen Brinkman talk about how they're going to handle the Wii control system yet. There's such great possiblities there.

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                  • Rob_NYY
                    Jedi Master
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 2495

                    #444
                    Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                    Originally posted by jim416
                    1. The pitcher covering 3rd. Looked at where the 3rd baseman is standing, six feet from the bag, erect, his legs shuffling back and forth, staring into the stands behind firstbase.
                    2K has to work on this for next year. Pretty ridiculous how he just stood there like that staring into space.


                    2. Cutoff man with his hands up looking for cutoff on homer.
                    He was clearly waving at his family members in the stands. If you watch the video again, watch after he waves, his family members stand up and wave back. Awesome detail! Go 2K!!!

                    3. Ball not being cutoff and rolling all the way to third.
                    That was human error. The moron playing threw the ball to 3B instead of the cutoff man. Even after his stupid mistake, he had the choice of pressing the cutoff button, and he didn't. I doubt any of us are going to throw the ball from RF to 3B and then just sit there like jerks watching the ball roll to 3B.

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                    • a4reak
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 1093

                      #445
                      Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                      jim the ball was not cutoff by the user. Just look in the thread I made called MY MLB 2K8 thoughts and you will see what I mean. I hear you on the other gripes

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                      • jim416
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 10606

                        #446
                        Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                        Cool, but know the devs read the threads and give a look see to the third base thingy.

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                        • Scooter3
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2680

                          #447
                          Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                          Originally posted by jim416
                          Yes, a short vid, but there were some telltale things for me.

                          1. The pitcher covering 3rd. Looked at where the 3rd baseman is standing, six feet from the bag, erect, his legs shuffling back and forth, staring into the stands behind firstbase.

                          Jim,
                          I used to play Short and the Hot Corner and from what I remember first of all the 3rd baseman would fake the runner back then fire to first then the Short Stop would cover the bag the pitcher would backup the play...
                          The first baseman took too long with a hitch, he instinkfully would have thrown the ball right away...I don't believe this play would have happened in High School Varsity...

                          2. Cutoff man with his hands up looking for cutoff on homer.
                          Was this programed in the game or did the human controller push the cut-off button?..

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                          • K_GUN
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3891

                            #448
                            Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                            plus...


                            i thought BB specifically said they re-wrote the AI fielding for this year so they could be in the right places


                            doesn't look like it based on that clip
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                            • jim416
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 10606

                              #449
                              Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                              Originally posted by Scooter3
                              Was this programed in the game or did the human controller push the cut-off button?..

                              Scooter...

                              Pretty sure the ball was well out of the park by then.

                              Another one is the "errant pitch" remark setting up the batter with a meat pitch ("smashing it out of the park). Fingers are crossed that this new batting system does NOT include this.

                              These are a few important issues to have clarified through release of more stuff.

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                              • a4reak
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 1093

                                #450
                                Re: IGN MEDIA THREAD!

                                Originally posted by K_GUN
                                plus...


                                i thought BB specifically said they re-wrote the AI fielding for this year so they could be in the right places


                                doesn't look like it based on that clip
                                Indeed you are correct

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