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  • PatsFan
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    • Feb 2004
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    #181
    Re: IGN Review---8.4

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    Anaxamander said:
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    Leaper said:
    The following is a quote from the review that was presented by Hilary as a potential problem, that I look at as a HUGE positive:

    "I must admit that I've had a bit more of a problem pitching this year than last year, as the pitching effort sometimes too greatly affects location or ball movement, making it a bit more difficult to hit the spots. I'm not really sure if it's intentional or not, but I'm a seasoned veteran of the series and it took me a few games to get accustomed to the sensitivity of this year's pitching system."

    To me, this is beyond excellent (assuming he is correct of course). If this is a true statement, pitchers with a better control rating will become even more important. It won't be all about the fireballers!

    Did anyone else pick up on this little comment and think it was actually a GOOD thing!?!

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    Yes, sounds like a positive to me. Almost every game allows for pin-point pitcher accuracy. The result? You never walk anyone, which we hate.

    At this point, after playing MVP, the "features" I'm looking most foward to are:
    --player progression that works right
    --correct hitting physics for lefties (what a novel concept!)
    --ability to play/watch other teams' franchise games
    --positional fatigue
    --WALKS (although I hardly ever got any last year, I'm hoping to finally find a decent game where the CPU will walk you now and then).

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    Count me amoung those that think inept pitching controls are *NOT* a good thing.

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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42529

      #182
      Re: IGN Review---8.4

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      Pared said:
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      making ESPN Baseball feel like less of a progression and a bit more like a glorified roster update.

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      This is what bugs me b/c it is exactly what I feared. I played WSB 2k3 all last year, and really don't want to be playing it another year.

      You expect change in a game, and change for the better. IMO it seems like this is the game we should have had LAST YEAR.

      Expectations are higher this year than last, and rightfully so.

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      Then dude, I really don't understand it, why did everyone get Madden? I mean, I know that the Owner Mode was a big plus, but come on, ESPN did more than that.
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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42529

        #183
        Re: IGN Review---8.4

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        Pared said:
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        making ESPN Baseball feel like less of a progression and a bit more like a glorified roster update.

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        This is what bugs me b/c it is exactly what I feared. I played WSB 2k3 all last year, and really don't want to be playing it another year.

        You expect change in a game, and change for the better. IMO it seems like this is the game we should have had LAST YEAR.

        Expectations are higher this year than last, and rightfully so.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        Then dude, I really don't understand it, why did everyone get Madden? I mean, I know that the Owner Mode was a big plus, but come on, ESPN did more than that.
        Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42529

          #184
          Re: IGN Review---8.4

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          Pared said:
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          making ESPN Baseball feel like less of a progression and a bit more like a glorified roster update.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          This is what bugs me b/c it is exactly what I feared. I played WSB 2k3 all last year, and really don't want to be playing it another year.

          You expect change in a game, and change for the better. IMO it seems like this is the game we should have had LAST YEAR.

          Expectations are higher this year than last, and rightfully so.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          Then dude, I really don't understand it, why did everyone get Madden? I mean, I know that the Owner Mode was a big plus, but come on, ESPN did more than that.
          Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

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          • PatsFan
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            • Feb 2004
            • 204

            #185
            Re: IGN Review---8.4

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            TIm said:
            Fellas, I am just talking for me..I am not into franchise that much...From all the reviews I read so far, The gameplay is still intact from last year...That's all I need to know and all I want...I was thinking...Why can't baseball games just bring back Plain Home run Derby..It's pissin me off...

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            Because it was never done well, maybe. All the games that had Home Run Derbys basically became who could hit 500 homeruns first. The player that doesn't become bored off his butt first and turn off the console wins.

            I'm not at all enamored with the new forms of Homerun derby or pitching duels. Keep the gimmicks and put the development time into improving gameplay. First Person Baseball/Football (The Crib) are all wastes of time too.

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            • PatsFan
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              • Feb 2004
              • 204

              #186
              Re: IGN Review---8.4

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              TIm said:
              Fellas, I am just talking for me..I am not into franchise that much...From all the reviews I read so far, The gameplay is still intact from last year...That's all I need to know and all I want...I was thinking...Why can't baseball games just bring back Plain Home run Derby..It's pissin me off...

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Because it was never done well, maybe. All the games that had Home Run Derbys basically became who could hit 500 homeruns first. The player that doesn't become bored off his butt first and turn off the console wins.

              I'm not at all enamored with the new forms of Homerun derby or pitching duels. Keep the gimmicks and put the development time into improving gameplay. First Person Baseball/Football (The Crib) are all wastes of time too.

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              • PatsFan
                Banned
                • Feb 2004
                • 204

                #187
                Re: IGN Review---8.4

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                TIm said:
                Fellas, I am just talking for me..I am not into franchise that much...From all the reviews I read so far, The gameplay is still intact from last year...That's all I need to know and all I want...I was thinking...Why can't baseball games just bring back Plain Home run Derby..It's pissin me off...

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Because it was never done well, maybe. All the games that had Home Run Derbys basically became who could hit 500 homeruns first. The player that doesn't become bored off his butt first and turn off the console wins.

                I'm not at all enamored with the new forms of Homerun derby or pitching duels. Keep the gimmicks and put the development time into improving gameplay. First Person Baseball/Football (The Crib) are all wastes of time too.

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                • PatsFan
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 204

                  #188
                  Re: IGN Review---8.4

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                  Blzer said:
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                  Pared said:
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                  making ESPN Baseball feel like less of a progression and a bit more like a glorified roster update.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  This is what bugs me b/c it is exactly what I feared. I played WSB 2k3 all last year, and really don't want to be playing it another year.

                  You expect change in a game, and change for the better. IMO it seems like this is the game we should have had LAST YEAR.

                  Expectations are higher this year than last, and rightfully so.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Then dude, I really don't understand it, why did everyone get Madden? I mean, I know that the Owner Mode was a big plus, but come on, ESPN did more than that.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Madden added Dynasty Mode and added tons of depth to its controls (playmaker controls). Sounds like ESPN added first person baseball, which is being roundly laughed at and despised in almost every single review. And likewise nearly every review is unimpressed with Sega's baseball offering this year. I'm sure the conspiracy theorists among us have an opinion why, but the rest of know better. I've cancelled my pre-order at EB, and will instead give ESPN a 5 day rental to see if it's worth a full purchase. Sega didn't help their case by delaying it for weeks, giving me a chance to really get deep into MVP.

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                  • PatsFan
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 204

                    #189
                    Re: IGN Review---8.4

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                    Blzer said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    Pared said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    making ESPN Baseball feel like less of a progression and a bit more like a glorified roster update.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    This is what bugs me b/c it is exactly what I feared. I played WSB 2k3 all last year, and really don't want to be playing it another year.

                    You expect change in a game, and change for the better. IMO it seems like this is the game we should have had LAST YEAR.

                    Expectations are higher this year than last, and rightfully so.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Then dude, I really don't understand it, why did everyone get Madden? I mean, I know that the Owner Mode was a big plus, but come on, ESPN did more than that.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Madden added Dynasty Mode and added tons of depth to its controls (playmaker controls). Sounds like ESPN added first person baseball, which is being roundly laughed at and despised in almost every single review. And likewise nearly every review is unimpressed with Sega's baseball offering this year. I'm sure the conspiracy theorists among us have an opinion why, but the rest of know better. I've cancelled my pre-order at EB, and will instead give ESPN a 5 day rental to see if it's worth a full purchase. Sega didn't help their case by delaying it for weeks, giving me a chance to really get deep into MVP.

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                    • PatsFan
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 204

                      #190
                      Re: IGN Review---8.4

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                      Blzer said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Pared said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      making ESPN Baseball feel like less of a progression and a bit more like a glorified roster update.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      This is what bugs me b/c it is exactly what I feared. I played WSB 2k3 all last year, and really don't want to be playing it another year.

                      You expect change in a game, and change for the better. IMO it seems like this is the game we should have had LAST YEAR.

                      Expectations are higher this year than last, and rightfully so.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Then dude, I really don't understand it, why did everyone get Madden? I mean, I know that the Owner Mode was a big plus, but come on, ESPN did more than that.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Madden added Dynasty Mode and added tons of depth to its controls (playmaker controls). Sounds like ESPN added first person baseball, which is being roundly laughed at and despised in almost every single review. And likewise nearly every review is unimpressed with Sega's baseball offering this year. I'm sure the conspiracy theorists among us have an opinion why, but the rest of know better. I've cancelled my pre-order at EB, and will instead give ESPN a 5 day rental to see if it's worth a full purchase. Sega didn't help their case by delaying it for weeks, giving me a chance to really get deep into MVP.

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                      • NICK5
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 67

                        #191
                        Re: IGN Review---8.4

                        Madden did not make any significant improvements. Playmakers was a gimmick and most people did not use it much except to switch directions before the ball was snapped. In all the reviews for Madden people would say "if it ain't broke". ESPN was not broke either so it did not need a major overhaul like MVP.

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                        • NICK5
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 67

                          #192
                          Re: IGN Review---8.4

                          Madden did not make any significant improvements. Playmakers was a gimmick and most people did not use it much except to switch directions before the ball was snapped. In all the reviews for Madden people would say "if it ain't broke". ESPN was not broke either so it did not need a major overhaul like MVP.

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                          • NICK5
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 67

                            #193
                            Re: IGN Review---8.4

                            Madden did not make any significant improvements. Playmakers was a gimmick and most people did not use it much except to switch directions before the ball was snapped. In all the reviews for Madden people would say "if it ain't broke". ESPN was not broke either so it did not need a major overhaul like MVP.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #194
                              Re: IGN Review---8.4

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                              Blzer said:
                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              Pared said:
                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              making ESPN Baseball feel like less of a progression and a bit more like a glorified roster update.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              This is what bugs me b/c it is exactly what I feared. I played WSB 2k3 all last year, and really don't want to be playing it another year.

                              You expect change in a game, and change for the better. IMO it seems like this is the game we should have had LAST YEAR.

                              Expectations are higher this year than last, and rightfully so.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Then dude, I really don't understand it, why did everyone get Madden? I mean, I know that the Owner Mode was a big plus, but come on, ESPN did more than that.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              How do you even know they did more than that? Have you played the game??

                              The point is it will STILL feel like you're playing the same thing as last year from what I've been reading all over the 'net. There are plenty of WSB fans who already jumped ship b/c of it, and this review seems to be confirming it.

                              And PLEASE, leave the Madden comparisons at the door when ya walk in. Madden added Owner mode, ESPN added... First Person Baseball...??? WSB is not up to Madden's standards to be simply "modifying" it's game engine like that. As good as it was last year, there's still SO MUCH to be improved.

                              Sega didn't do as much as they could have, if you look at the leaps and bounds a developer like 989 made.
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                              • Pared
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                                • Feb 2003
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                                #195
                                Re: IGN Review---8.4

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                                Blzer said:
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                                making ESPN Baseball feel like less of a progression and a bit more like a glorified roster update.

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                                This is what bugs me b/c it is exactly what I feared. I played WSB 2k3 all last year, and really don't want to be playing it another year.

                                You expect change in a game, and change for the better. IMO it seems like this is the game we should have had LAST YEAR.

                                Expectations are higher this year than last, and rightfully so.

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                                Then dude, I really don't understand it, why did everyone get Madden? I mean, I know that the Owner Mode was a big plus, but come on, ESPN did more than that.

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                                How do you even know they did more than that? Have you played the game??

                                The point is it will STILL feel like you're playing the same thing as last year from what I've been reading all over the 'net. There are plenty of WSB fans who already jumped ship b/c of it, and this review seems to be confirming it.

                                And PLEASE, leave the Madden comparisons at the door when ya walk in. Madden added Owner mode, ESPN added... First Person Baseball...??? WSB is not up to Madden's standards to be simply "modifying" it's game engine like that. As good as it was last year, there's still SO MUCH to be improved.

                                Sega didn't do as much as they could have, if you look at the leaps and bounds a developer like 989 made.
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