Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

[highheatkingsb]

Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

So highheat do you use zone pitching or zone 2 and do you use the swing stick?

Zone pitching 1, I didn't like Zone 2. And yes, always swing stick, I find classic not realistic at all. To me, pushing a button is so last gen, it's time for that next gen experience.

[highheatkingsb]

Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

i see you're using zone pitching...using payoff pitching allows me put crazy breaks and movement on pitches (i.e., allowing the circle to get really small, then let it open back up just a bit to throw 12/6 curves from the chest to the dirt..anyway, does zone 1 allow for this control?

Once you learn the control of it, yes. Here's how I take zone pitching. After you set your catcher and select your pitch there will be two circles going in a crosshairs motion. The first circle going horzontally is your accuracy and placement of your pitch. The second is your height of your pitch, which travels vertically, sometimes from top to bottom, sometimes bottom to top. Say you want that 12/6 curve ball. You have to hit your accuracy close to the first circle and your second one put it to how much break you want. Each pitch has a different philosophy behind, it the more I've used it, the more I've noticed it. It's totally different for each kind of pitch. And if you miss both the accuracy and break circles, it becomes a meat pitch. If you do use zone pitching however and if your pitcher gets in a jam, the crosshairs become faster and your target becomes smaller, until you make a good play or strike someone out, then it goes back. I can't pitch any other way now.

[highheatkingsb]

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Did you just read high heat's post? He said the 0, 40, 100 hit the nail on the head... 2 people right there, very pleased with the 0, 40, 100 combo. I'm sure there are others out there.

I like the 0, 40, 100 combo better because I can actually get 1-3 strikeouts with my pitchers. The 100, 50, 50 combo it's almost impossible with the staff I use. I mean I can throw a pitch almost in the dugout with the 100, 50, 50 set and they still make contact. I had it at 100, 40, 50 before, but I got too good at pitching and the AI wasn't producing much. At 0, 40, 100, they tend to both strikeout and produce runs.

[mattstl77]

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High Heat, Do you think the 0,40,100 combo will work if you use payoff?

[SportGamer24]

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I like the 0, 40, 100 combo better because I can actually get 1-3 strikeouts with my pitchers. The 100, 50, 50 combo it's almost impossible with the staff I use. I mean I can throw a pitch almost in the dugout with the 100, 50, 50 set and they still make contact. I had it at 100, 40, 50 before, but I got too good at pitching and the AI wasn't producing much. At 0, 40, 100, they tend to both strikeout and produce runs.

Thanks for the feedback. So on average you think the cpu scores more runs with the 0,40,100. That's what I'm looking for. I want the cpu offense to be potent. I would have thought with the cpu skill at 100 it would be more potent but it sounds like you and xcell agree that raising the power is the way to go...I'm also worried that the power at 100 would make the cpu hit a ton of HRs but it doesn't sound that way. I will go ahead and try these settings tonight and compare the difference to my 100,50,50. I hope these turn out great.

[nnng07]

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Guys I really suggest trying 100/45/50 in the AI SKILL/CONTACT/POWER department. This works VERY well. You will get K's, you will give up runs, everything is realistic.

Highheat, your post just above this one hits it right on the nail why 100/45/50 is perfect. You just said that at 100/50/50 it's impossible to strike out the computer. Completely correct. I was getting 2 K's a game, so I went to 100/40/50, just like you did. What happened? Exactly what you said, the pitching was too good and K's shot up to 10 a game.

So I went right in between at 100/45/50. This has truly given me perfect results. 6 K's a game, 4-5 CPU runs a game, truly great results. If you trust the realism of the gameplay provided in the other slider setting suggestions I have posted throughout this thread, I really sugggest you give this recommendation a try. There are others throughout this thread who have backed up that this setting is as close to perfect as we will achieve. Give it a try:

AI SKILL: 100
AI CONTACT: 45
AI POWER: 50

It's imperitive that AI Contact is at 45, not 50 like many of you have suggested in recent posts. 45 gives perfect ammount of strikeouts on the aggregate over a large numbers of user-games played.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Are both these AI Hitting Slider Setting(0-40-100/100-45-50) in conjunction with INSIDE EDGE being -ON for both Pitching & Hitting?

[mattstl77]

Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

I am all about letting the CPU score runs, but I want them to score runs more on singles, doubles, and the occasional triple. Having every single run being scored by a homer is not Sim - results.

[nnng07]

Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

I am all about letting the CPU score runs, but I want them to score runs more on singles, doubles, and the occasional triple. Having every single run being scored by a homer is not Sim - results.

Precisely why I do not suggest turning Power up really high. In 57 franchise games, I have averaged giving up 1.2 HR's per game with these settings.

[highheatkingsb]

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Guys I really suggest trying 100/45/50 in the AI SKILL/CONTACT/POWER department. This works VERY well. You will get K's, you will give up runs, everything is realistic.

Highheat, your post just above this one hits it right on the nail why 100/45/50 is perfect. You just said that at 100/50/50 it's impossible to strike out the computer. Completely correct. I was getting 2 K's a game, so I went to 100/40/50, just like you did. What happened? Exactly what you said, the pitching was too good and K's shot up to 10 a game.

So I went right in between at 100/45/50. This has truly given me perfect results. 6 K's a game, 4-5 CPU runs a game, truly great results. If you trust the realism of the gameplay provided in the other slider setting suggestions I have posted throughout this thread, I really sugggest you give this recommendation a try. There are others throughout this thread who have backed up that this setting is as close to perfect as we will achieve. Give it a try:

AI SKILL: 100
AI CONTACT: 45
AI POWER: 50

It's imperitive that AI Contact is at 45, not 50 like many of you have suggested in recent posts. 45 gives perfect ammount of strikeouts on the aggregate over a large numbers of user-games played.

Sounds like a plan. I'll give them a go. I like the 0/40/100 thing, but I'm always open to suggestions. Sooner or later, I think we'll all be able to settle on our comfort levels for opening day. I hope.

[jake44np]

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Precisely why I do not suggest turning Power up really high. In 57 franchise games, I have averaged giving up 1.2 HR's per game with these settings.

What is your team ERA thru 57 games?

[nnng07]

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Are both these AI Hitting Slider Setting(0-40-100/100-45-50) in conjunction with INSIDE EDGE being -ON for both Pitching & Hitting?

Not sure about X-Cell, but yes my versions have always included IE being on on both sides.

[mattstl77]

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I will have to give the AI Batting Sliders another chance.

[highheatkingsb]

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Thanks for the feedback. So on average you think the cpu scores more runs with the 0,40,100. That's what I'm looking for. I want the cpu offense to be potent. I would have thought with the cpu skill at 100 it would be more potent but it sounds like you and xcell agree that raising the power is the way to go...I'm also worried that the power at 100 would make the cpu hit a ton of HRs but it doesn't sound that way. I will go ahead and try these settings tonight and compare the difference to my 100,50,50. I hope these turn out great.

I can tell you this. With using Zone Pitching, if I miss the pitch, 9/10 times it's going to get hit pretty dang hard. Not always over the fence either. Most of the runs I'm seeing are coming off of singles, doubles, and the occasional triple. I'm still giving up 1-2 homers a game, mostly because my Orioles staff sucks. I still miss my mark 5-8 times a game and I pay for it dearly. nnng's idea with the 100/45/50 looks intriguing also, so I'll give that a try later on as well to see which one I prefer, but X-Cell explained it pretty well with having to work the zone and stuff and the AI hitters looking towards that next pitch and being fooled if you throw what they aren't expecting. I like that.

[SportGamer24]

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I can tell you this. With using Zone Pitching, if I miss the pitch, 9/10 times it's going to get hit pretty dang hard. Not always over the fence either. Most of the runs I'm seeing are coming off of singles, doubles, and the occasional triple. I'm still giving up 1-2 homers a game, mostly because my Orioles staff sucks. I still miss my mark 5-8 times a game and I pay for it dearly. nnng's idea with the 100/45/50 looks intriguing also, so I'll give that a try later on as well to see which one I prefer, but X-Cell explained it pretty well with having to work the zone and stuff and the AI hitters looking towards that next pitch and being fooled if you throw what they aren't expecting. I like that.

Sounds like everyone is open to trying both sets...maybe we could post some stats from each slider set and compare.

My latest game using the 100/40/50 was

Phillies (HUM) 2r 10h 1e
Nats (CPU) 5 r 11h 0e

CPU had 0 hr, 2 doubles, 1 triple
I struck out the CPU 5 times.