Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

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  • PsychoBulk
    Hoping for change...
    • May 2006
    • 4191

    #481
    Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

    Then theres your problem mate. Dont push up, it makes banging homers far too easy. Im hitting realistic homer numbers without ever pushing up, its all coming from the timing and picking the pitch (and having batter influence 100 so they bat like their real life tendencies).

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    • frago
      Rookie
      • Mar 2004
      • 498

      #482
      Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

      Dont know what peoples problems are.
      These work very well for me across the board.

      I think if people try to play the game like an arcade game , then the game plays like that. Try to be realistic in your approach. Dont exploit the AI . Sliders will never work for a gamer that just surpasses them and jacks HR after HR and uses the same pitches to strike out the AI over and over.

      You get what you put in.

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      • Starrtech
        Rookie
        • Jun 2003
        • 376

        #483
        Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

        i feel like these are the most consistant sliders i have used.

        The pitch count is realistic (forces you to throw balls b/c the cpu will crush constant strikes)

        yet, i find that the cpu is only scoring off of HR's. If they dont hit Homers then they just dont score unless I personally mess up.
        Lol, people get enjoyment from their game in different ways. Why they enjoy one thing over another is not really important. --trobinson97
        Amen.

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        • PsychoBulk
          Hoping for change...
          • May 2006
          • 4191

          #484
          Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

          Originally posted by frago
          Dont know what peoples problems are.
          These work very well for me across the board.

          I think if people try to play the game like an arcade game , then the game plays like that. Try to be realistic in your approach. Dont exploit the AI . Sliders will never work for a gamer that just surpasses them and jacks HR after HR and uses the same pitches to strike out the AI over and over.

          You get what you put in.
          This man speaketh sense.

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          • boomboxjon
            Rookie
            • Dec 2004
            • 89

            #485
            Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

            so post-patch is anyone else having issues with the sliders? so far ive noticed that the OF speed is WAAAAY too low and i just gave up 1 run and 7 hits in an entire series. their batters seem to miss everything..including intentional meatballs i threw right down the pipe just to see what the deal was. am i the only one noticing these things?? hehehe i ask because i just got done playing Pittsburgh so i guess 1 and 7 maybe isnt too unrealistic. anyways, these sliders are great and have enjoyed my season up to this point, just hope someone edits them post-patch

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            • PAPERNUT
              Gaming Fool.
              • May 2003
              • 1690

              #486
              Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

              Originally posted by PsychoBulk
              Then theres your problem mate. Dont push up, it makes banging homers far too easy. Im hitting realistic homer numbers without ever pushing up, its all coming from the timing and picking the pitch (and having batter influence 100 so they bat like their real life tendencies).
              I had not tried playing that way and you are right. After adjusting, I am seeing a realistic amount of homers now and the numbers are right where they need to be. The game is no doubt better and more fun to play after the update. Good job on the sliders and thanks.
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              • El_MaYiMbE
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1427

                #487
                Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                Yea i noticed that post update it has been very easy for me to play....is it possible that the update fixed the weight that the sliders carry? Making it actually playable with the default sliders?

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                • frago
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 498

                  #488
                  Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                  Its always been playable.
                  Just small things irk me about default.
                  The AI wont ever swing at anything not a strike for one. They hit ridiculous homers and lots of bionic fielders.
                  Default All Star is pretty tough on me to win , I just use sliders to have a more realistic styler of game.

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                  • Scottdau
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 32580

                    #489
                    Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                    Originally posted by PsychoBulk
                    Then theres your problem mate. Dont push up, it makes banging homers far too easy. Im hitting realistic homer numbers without ever pushing up, its all coming from the timing and picking the pitch (and having batter influence 100 so they bat like their real life tendencies).
                    Sure you do that now when it doesn't matter, but what happens when you are in game seven of the World Series. Do you cheat and use the up button?

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                    • PsychoBulk
                      Hoping for change...
                      • May 2006
                      • 4191

                      #490
                      Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                      Originally posted by Scottd
                      Sure you do that now when it doesn't matter, but what happens when you are in game seven of the World Series. Do you cheat and use the up button?
                      No.

                      The only time i push up is when i want a sac fly to score a runner on 3rd, and even then i dont push up all the way, about halfway, and that usuall does the trick. I dont see that as cheating as thats exactly what a real life batter tries to do, get one in the air into the outfield.

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                      • kumala
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 599

                        #491
                        Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                        To me until 2k incorporates a true zone hitting interface, than this game is not going to be truly a sim. Sliders make the game worth playing but when you have to handicap yourself by not doing certain things such as push up to swing is crazy. MVP and High heat had the perfect interface for hitting. But with that , you just have to make due with what we got. By the way love the sliders.

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                        • I_Love_Piazza
                          Rookie
                          • May 2003
                          • 147

                          #492
                          Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                          Originally posted by kumala
                          To me until 2k incorporates a true zone hitting interface, than this game is not going to be truly a sim. Sliders make the game worth playing but when you have to handicap yourself by not doing certain things such as push up to swing is crazy. MVP and High heat had the perfect interface for hitting. But with that , you just have to make due with what we got. By the way love the sliders.
                          MVP had the same hitting interface as this one. Pushing up resulted in a lot of homeruns in that game, especially when they had the lefty HR bug and only righties hit them. I think my brother and I hit about 60 homeruns in the minors with our best righty hitters.

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                          • kumala
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 599

                            #493
                            Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                            I don't think its as bad as 2k. At least in mvp, if I swing low and in or away I can hit homers. With 2k, I hit only ground balls, but it could be only with me in 2k. Well, lets say zone hitting like high heat baseball.

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                            • PsychoBulk
                              Hoping for change...
                              • May 2006
                              • 4191

                              #494
                              Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                              Right chaps, im having wonderful games with this slider set, just a few tweaks to the latest from nnng since the patch toned down power a lot.

                              Ive won 15-4, 4-2, 2-1, 6-4, 5-3 with these and ive lost 10-2, 3-2, 7-4 so im getting a wonderful variety of games, i am hitting realistic homer totals, so is the CPU, as are strikeouts/pitch counts the lot. Im now settled on these until 2K8, at last, after months of trying, ive found what i consider to be as close to perfection/sim baseball as possible with this game.

                              Give these a whirl and report back.

                              p.s. i use payoff pitching and classic hitting, results may vary if you use any other settings!

                              Human Options
                              Batter Contact: 30
                              Batter Power: 50
                              Batter Influence: 100
                              Power Swing: 0
                              Step Influence: 100
                              Pitcher Difficulty: 100
                              Bunt Assistance: 25
                              Bunt for Hit: 15
                              Baserunner Speed: 100
                              Runner Steal Success: 55
                              Infielder Errors: 75
                              Outfielder Errors: 80
                              Infielder Speed: 20
                              Outfielder Speed: 40
                              Catcher Throw Speed: 5
                              Infielder Throw Speed: 0
                              Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
                              Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
                              Outfielder Reaction Speed: 25
                              Speed Burst Length: 0
                              Speed Burst Power: 0
                              Fielder Aggression: 0
                              Pitcher Fatigue: 35
                              Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
                              Injuries: 50
                              Pitch Speed: 65


                              A.I. General Options
                              Infielder Errors: 75
                              Outfielder Errors: 80
                              Infielder Speed: 20
                              Outfielder Speed: 40
                              Catcher Throw Speed: 5
                              Infielder Throw Speed: 0
                              Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
                              Fielder Aggression: 0
                              Throwing Aggression: 65
                              Hit and Run: 100
                              Sacrifice Bunt: 60
                              Squeeze Bunt: 35
                              Runner Aggression: 55
                              Steal Success: 60
                              Steal Second: 60
                              Steal Third: 20
                              Steal Home: 0
                              Diveback: 100


                              A.I. Batting Options
                              AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
                              Take Strike Overall: 70
                              Take Strike Ahead: 75
                              Take Strike Behind: 45
                              Take Ball Overall: 80
                              Take Ball Ahead: 85
                              Take Ball Behind: 75
                              Skill: 100
                              Contact: 45
                              Power: 55
                              Bunt for Hit: 40
                              Pitcher Difficulty: 0
                              Pitcher Effectiveness Mod: 100


                              AI Pitching Options
                              Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
                              Corner: 10
                              Change Speed: 100
                              Throw Strike Overall: 40
                              Throw Strike Ahead: 30
                              Throw Strike Behind: 35
                              Pitcher Fatigue: 45
                              Pickoff: 30
                              Pitchout: 55
                              Meat Pitch: 0
                              Last edited by PsychoBulk; 07-11-2007, 03:01 PM.

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                              • MizzouRah
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 8539

                                #495
                                Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                                Originally posted by PsychoBulk
                                Right chaps, im having wonderful games with this slider set, just a few tweaks to the latest from nnng since the patch toned down power a lot.

                                Ive won 15-4, 4-2, 2-1, 6-4, 5-3 with these and ive lost 10-2, 3-2, 7-4 so im getting a wonderful variety of games, i am hitting realistic homer totals, so is the CPU, as are strikeouts/pitch counts the lot. Im now settled on these until 2K8, at last, after months of trying, ive found what i consider to be as close to perfection/sim baseball as possible with this game.

                                Give these a whirl and report back.

                                p.s. i use payoff pitching and classic hitting, results may vary if you use any other settings!

                                Human Options
                                Batter Contact: 30
                                Batter Power: 50
                                Batter Influence: 100
                                Power Swing: 0
                                Step Influence: 100
                                Pitcher Difficulty: 100
                                Bunt Assistance: 25
                                Bunt for Hit: 15
                                Baserunner Speed: 100
                                Runner Steal Success: 55
                                Infielder Errors: 75
                                Outfielder Errors: 80
                                Infielder Speed: 20
                                Outfielder Speed: 40
                                Catcher Throw Speed: 5
                                Infielder Throw Speed: 0
                                Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
                                Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
                                Outfielder Reaction Speed: 25
                                Speed Burst Length: 0
                                Speed Burst Power: 0
                                Fielder Aggression: 0
                                Pitcher Fatigue: 35
                                Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
                                Injuries: 50
                                Pitch Speed: 65


                                A.I. General Options
                                Infielder Errors: 75
                                Outfielder Errors: 80
                                Infielder Speed: 20
                                Outfielder Speed: 40
                                Catcher Throw Speed: 5
                                Infielder Throw Speed: 0
                                Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
                                Fielder Aggression: 0
                                Throwing Aggression: 65
                                Hit and Run: 100
                                Sacrifice Bunt: 60
                                Squeeze Bunt: 35
                                Runner Aggression: 55
                                Steal Success: 60
                                Steal Second: 60
                                Steal Third: 20
                                Steal Home: 0
                                Diveback: 100


                                A.I. Batting Options
                                AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
                                Take Strike Overall: 70
                                Take Strike Ahead: 75
                                Take Strike Behind: 45
                                Take Ball Overall: 80
                                Take Ball Ahead: 85
                                Take Ball Behind: 75
                                Skill: 100
                                Contact: 45
                                Power: 55
                                Bunt for Hit: 40
                                Pitcher Difficulty: 0
                                Pitcher Effectiveness Mod: 100


                                AI Pitching Options
                                Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
                                Corner: 10
                                Change Speed: 100
                                Throw Strike Overall: 40
                                Throw Strike Ahead: 30
                                Throw Strike Behind: 35
                                Pitcher Fatigue: 45
                                Pickoff: 30
                                Pitchout: 55
                                Meat Pitch: 0
                                I'm going to give these a whirl this weekend.

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