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  • DanSF49
    Pro
    • Feb 2003
    • 936

    #181
    Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

    Originally posted by aj719887
    anyone test these new sliders out yet??
    I just posted them so I doubt anyone has but I'm hoping you will and let me know what you think of them.

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    • The Kid 24
      It's Show Time!
      • Jan 2007
      • 14768

      #182
      Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

      Originally posted by DanSF49
      Okay guys I'm back with a newly updated set. The patch has affected some areas so changes had to be made. One nice thing I am seeing is the AI stealing. Last night I was the White Sox vs the Twins, I was leading 2-1 top 8. I walk Carlos Gomez to start the inning and on the second pitch he takes off and steals second and ends coming home to tie the game on a double down the 1st base line. Now that was nice to see, the AI stealing in a spot that it should with a player that should be doing it and not Frank Thomas or someone. Well anyway these have been playing pretty good, we may need a few tweaks here or there but I think you will enjoy them. Let me know.

      ALL SLIDERS ARE SET FROM THE FAR LEFT


      HUMAN SLIDERS

      Batting Skill: 25
      Batting Contact: 80
      Batting Power: 15
      Foul Ball Frequency: 90
      Batting Influence: 25
      Step Influence: 50
      Pitcher Difficulty: 75
      Batter Bunt Assistance: 50
      Batter Bunt for Hit: 50
      Runner Baserunning Speed: 75
      Runner Stealing Success: 35
      Infielder Errors: 25
      Outfielder Errors: 75
      Throw Meter Difficulty: 80
      Infielder Speed: 20
      Outfielder Speed: 35
      Infielder Reaction Speed: 20
      Outfielder Reaction Speed: 35
      Fielding Aggression: 50
      Pitcher Fatigue: 70
      Total Control Pitching: 85
      Injuries: 50
      Pitch Speed: 60

      AI GENERAL OPTIONS

      AI Infield Errors: 25
      AI Outfield Errors: 75
      AI Infielder Speed: 20
      AI Outfielder Speed: 35
      AI Fielding Aggression: 50
      AI Hit n Run: 100
      AI Sacrifice Bunt: 50
      AI Squeeze: 25
      AI Run Aggression: 60
      AI Stealing Success: 65
      AI Steal 2nd: 100
      AI Steal 3rd: 75
      AI Diveback: 50
      Infielder Reaction Speed: 20
      Outfielder Reaction Speed: 35

      AI BATTING OPTIONS

      Inside Edge: ON
      AI Take Strike Overall: 65
      AI Take Strike Ahead: 70
      AI Take Strike Behind: 35
      AI Take Ball Overall: 40
      AI Take Ball Ahead: 40
      AI Take Ball Behind: 35
      AI Skill: 25
      AI Contact: 80
      AI Power: 15
      AI Foul Ball Frequency: 90
      AI Bunt For Hit: 50


      AI PITCHING OPTIONS

      AI Corner: 60
      AI Change Speed: 40
      AI Throw Strike Overall: 3
      AI Throw Strike Ahead: 1
      AI Throw Strike Behind: 5
      AI Fatigue: 75
      AI Pickoff: 50
      AI Pitchout: 50
      AI Meat Pitch: 10 (but I have the meatball indicator turned OFF)
      Hey Dan... Should I use this set or the pre patch set? What do you recommend cuz remember I'm patch-less... Any help would be appreciated dude!! Thanks so much
      Milwaukee Brewers | Green Bay Packers | North Carolina Tar Heels | Wisconsin Badgers

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      • DanSF49
        Pro
        • Feb 2003
        • 936

        #183
        Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

        Originally posted by Prince of Milwaukee 28
        Hey Dan... Should I use this set or the pre patch set? What do you recommend cuz remember I'm patch-less... Any help would be appreciated dude!! Thanks so much
        LOL "I'm patch-less" that just cracked me up for some reason. As for using these, I would say give them a try and see how they are. The main things to look for I think would be the AI Take Balls and Stikes sliders and the HRs for both the human and cpu. If that feels good to you then you can probably just use the new set. But if they dont feel right let me know and I can make recommedations to you and if that doesn't work you can always go back to the pre-patch sliders and have a great game of baseball.

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        • aj719887
          Rookie
          • Mar 2008
          • 61

          #184
          Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

          hey dan just curious about the OF reaction time.... having it at 0 doesnt work anymore or what, i havent been able to test the new ones out yet hopefully will do soon!
          "Why do they bother putting age restrictions on these things when all you have to do is click "yes, I am 18"? Even a 17 year old can figure it out." - Dr. House

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          • DanSF49
            Pro
            • Feb 2003
            • 936

            #185
            Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

            Originally posted by aj719887
            hey dan just curious about the OF reaction time.... having it at 0 doesnt work anymore or what, i havent been able to test the new ones out yet hopefully will do soon!
            Well it seems that they made adjustments to this also in the patch. Right now what I'm seeing looks good, but I was going to give it a try again at 0 for the OF Reaction this weekend and see how it looks. It seems they have eliminated that stutter that the OFs would do before they actually started running. But give it a try with the new reaction sliders and let me know what you think is better.

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            • SportGamer24
              Pro
              • Dec 2002
              • 783

              #186
              Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

              So does that mean the experiment with

              Skill (100)
              Contact (0)
              Power (5)

              failed?


              Anyone else ever try those?

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              • DanSF49
                Pro
                • Feb 2003
                • 936

                #187
                Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                Originally posted by SportGamer24
                So does that mean the experiment with

                Skill (100)
                Contact (0)
                Power (5)

                failed?


                Anyone else ever try those?
                Not really I'm just trying something different.

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                • DonkeyJote
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 9192

                  #188
                  Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                  So I've played 5 games with these. Three as the Braves vs. Nationals, and two as the Braves AAA and AA teams. In the minor league games, I won the AA game 3-2 and lost the AAA game 4-1. The triple A game went 16 innings. That's all I can really recall about those.

                  In the three games against the big club, I lost the first game 12-1, won the second game 3-2, and lost the rubber game 7-2. My offense has been pretty anemic. I'm batting .189 as a team with 1 hr and 5 doubles and 6 runs scored. I've walked 3 times and struck out 15 - neither too bad - I'd like to see more walks, but that's on me being more patient. I'm hitting .455 with runners in scoring position, and that is the only reason I have done anything on offense.

                  Pitching wise, I'm inconsistent, but I think the sliders are pretty good. My starters (Smoltz, Hudson, and Glavine) have been great. They have a combined 21 innings with 14 k's and 2.14 era. My bullpen, however, has been horrible. In 6 innings, they have 3 walks, 2 k's, and an ERA of 21.00. It's weird though, that my starters are dominant, but my pen is weak. Smoltz only gave up 4 baserunners in 6 innings (although two of them scored), Hudson only gave up 1 run in eight innings, and Glavine struck out 7 in 7 innings. So I have had very varying performances. Hudson got a ton of groundballs, which I was very pleased to see.

                  All in all, I think I'm going to lower step difficulty a bit (probably to 40), since I think that is where the difficulty lies for me. I think that slider is more dependent on player skill - I think we could leave the rest of them alone, and adjust that based on your individual skill and be okay.

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                  • nyisles16
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8317

                    #189
                    Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                    I've tried these sliders out, and so far I liked what I see.. Now mind you, I've only played a couple of games with these. First of all, I never thought I'd see this one, but as far as hits go, I was shocked when (Mets/Marlins) Ramirez hit a triple over Beltran's head into the "no man's land" area of CF at Dolphins Stadium. I've also hit banged some doubles off the Green Monster, as well as the computer crushing one into the triangle area of CF at Fenway. I haven't seen any SB at all, but that is due to the fact that either "non- stealers" got singles, or that there were guys already on 2nd. HR's? Only one in 3 games so far -Big Papi smacking one that I left too far out over the plate..

                    Just seeing more hit varieties. Looking good!

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                    • Bahnzo
                      Can't spell antetokounmpo
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 2809

                      #190
                      Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                      Hey Dan, just wanted to say I've given the 0 Skill concept you posted in bigjoes's thread a few more games, this time in franchise, and the result is a 180 turn from playing with exhibition. Not sure I like it for user batting, but for the AI it's not bad, a good amount of mostly singles with the odd extra base here and there. Gonna give it a few series worth of playing and see how it goes...ya might be onto something there.
                      Steam: Bahnzo

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                      • SportGamer24
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 783

                        #191
                        Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                        Not to bring it up again, but i really think the experiment with skill up high (100) and contact low (0) made the game play really well.


                        Now maybe it might require some minor tweaking, but I saw a great hit variety with those settings. I was leaning towards turning the skill down just a little (maybe 80ish). I left all the other settings the same.

                        Anyone still using or working on this approach?

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                        • DanSF49
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 936

                          #192
                          Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                          Hey guys I'm back my son gave me a nasty stomach virus and I have been on the couch for that last 2 days, but I had a chance to work on some things and I have a revamped slider set that I should have posted some time this afternoon. I just want to check out a few different things before I post them, but it will be worth it I believe.

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                          • DanSF49
                            Pro
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 936

                            #193
                            Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                            Okay guys hot off the press the newest slider update. Enjoy!!

                            ALL SLIDERS ARE SET FROM THE FAR LEFT

                            HUMAN SLIDERS
                            Batting Skill: 50
                            Batting Contact: 35
                            Batting Power: 15
                            Foul Ball Frequency: 50
                            Batting Influence: 50
                            Step Influence: 0
                            Pitcher Difficulty: 50
                            Batter Bunt Assistance: 50
                            Batter Bunt for Hit: 50
                            Runner Baserunning Speed: 65
                            Runner Stealing Success: 35
                            Infielder Errors: 50
                            Outfielder Errors: 50
                            Throw Meter Difficulty: 80
                            Infielder Speed: 25
                            Outfielder Speed: 40
                            Infielder Reaction Speed: 25
                            Outfielder Reaction Speed: 0
                            Fielding Aggression: 50
                            Pitcher Fatigue: 65
                            Total Control Pitching: 80
                            Injuries: 50
                            Pitch Speed: 60

                            AI GENERAL OPTIONS
                            AI Infield Errors: 50
                            AI Outfield Errors: 50
                            AI Infielder Speed: 25
                            AI Outfielder Speed: 40
                            AI Fielding Aggression: 50
                            AI Hit n Run: 100
                            AI Sacrifice Bunt: 50
                            AI Squeeze: 25
                            AI Run Aggression: 100
                            AI Stealing Success: 65
                            AI Steal 2nd: 100
                            AI Steal 3rd: 50
                            AI Diveback: 50
                            Infielder Reaction Speed: 25
                            Outfielder Reaction Speed: 0

                            AI BATTING OPTIONS
                            Inside Edge: ON
                            AI Take Strike Overall: 100 (Thanks to SFG for these AI Take Sliders)
                            AI Take Strike Ahead: 65
                            AI Take Strike Behind: 35
                            AI Take Ball Overall: 100
                            AI Take Ball Ahead: 65
                            AI Take Ball Behind: 35
                            AI Skill: 50
                            AI Contact: 35
                            AI Power: 0
                            AI Foul Ball Frequency: 50
                            AI Bunt For Hit: 50


                            AI PITCHING OPTIONS
                            AI Corner: 50
                            AI Change Speed: 50
                            AI Throw Strike Overall: 0
                            AI Throw Strike Ahead: 0
                            AI Throw Strike Behind: 0
                            AI Fatigue: 75
                            AI Pickoff: 50
                            AI Pitchout: 50
                            AI Meat Pitch: 0
                            Last edited by DanSF49; 04-21-2008, 12:16 PM.

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                            • DonkeyJote
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 9192

                              #194
                              Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                              So for those of us that we using the last set, these are the adjustments from that set.

                              ALL SLIDERS ARE SET FROM THE FAR LEFT

                              HUMAN SLIDERS
                              Batting Skill: +25
                              Batting Contact: -45
                              Batting Power: +/- 0
                              Foul Ball Frequency: -40
                              Batting Influence: +25
                              Step Influence: -50
                              Pitcher Difficulty: -25
                              Batter Bunt Assistance: +/- 0
                              Batter Bunt for Hit: +/- 0
                              Runner Baserunning Speed: -25
                              Runner Stealing Success: +/- 0
                              Infielder Errors: +25
                              Outfielder Errors: -25
                              Throw Meter Difficulty: +/- 0
                              Infielder Speed: +5
                              Outfielder Speed: +5
                              Infielder Reaction Speed: +5
                              Outfielder Reaction Speed: -35
                              Fielding Aggression: +/- 0
                              Pitcher Fatigue: -5
                              Total Control Pitching: -5
                              Injuries: +/- 0
                              Pitch Speed: +/- 0

                              AI GENERAL OPTIONS
                              AI Infield Errors: +25
                              AI Outfield Errors: -25
                              AI Infielder Speed: +5
                              AI Outfielder Speed: +5
                              AI Fielding Aggression: +/- 0
                              AI Hit n Run: +/- 0
                              AI Sacrifice Bunt: +/- 0
                              AI Squeeze: +/- 0
                              AI Run Aggression: +40
                              AI Stealing Success: +15
                              AI Steal 2nd: +/- 0
                              AI Steal 3rd: -25
                              AI Diveback: +/- 0
                              Infielder Reaction Speed: +5
                              Outfielder Reaction Speed: -35

                              AI BATTING OPTIONS
                              Inside Edge: ON
                              AI Take Strike Overall: +35
                              AI Take Strike Ahead: -5
                              AI Take Strike Behind: +/- 0
                              AI Take Ball Overall: +60
                              AI Take Ball Ahead: +25
                              AI Take Ball Behind: +/- 0
                              AI Skill: +25
                              AI Contact: -45
                              AI Power: -15
                              AI Foul Ball Frequency: -40
                              AI Bunt For Hit: +/- 0


                              AI PITCHING OPTIONS
                              AI Corner: -10
                              AI Change Speed: +10
                              AI Throw Strike Overall: -3
                              AI Throw Strike Ahead: -1
                              AI Throw Strike Behind: -5
                              AI Fatigue: -5
                              AI Pickoff: +/- 0
                              AI Pitchout: +/- 0
                              AI Meat Pitch: -10
                              Last edited by DonkeyJote; 04-17-2008, 04:55 PM.

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                              • DonkeyJote
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 9192

                                #195
                                Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                                Originally posted by DanSF49
                                Okay guys hot off the press the newest slider update. Enjoy!!

                                ALL SLIDERS ARE SET FROM THE FAR LEFT

                                HUMAN SLIDERS
                                Batting Skill: 50
                                Batting Contact: 35
                                Batting Power: 15
                                Foul Ball Frequency: 50
                                Batting Influence: 50
                                Step Influence: 0
                                Pitcher Difficulty: 50
                                Batter Bunt Assistance: 50
                                Batter Bunt for Hit: 50
                                Runner Baserunning Speed: 50
                                Runner Stealing Success: 35
                                Infielder Errors: 50
                                Outfielder Errors: 50
                                Throw Meter Difficulty: 80
                                Infielder Speed: 25
                                Outfielder Speed: 40
                                Infielder Reaction Speed: 25
                                Outfielder Reaction Speed: 0
                                Fielding Aggression: 50
                                Pitcher Fatigue: 65
                                Total Control Pitching: 80
                                Injuries: 50
                                Pitch Speed: 60

                                AI GENERAL OPTIONS
                                AI Infield Errors: 50
                                AI Outfield Errors: 50
                                AI Infielder Speed: 25
                                AI Outfielder Speed: 40
                                AI Fielding Aggression: 50
                                AI Hit n Run: 100
                                AI Sacrifice Bunt: 50
                                AI Squeeze: 25
                                AI Run Aggression: 100
                                AI Stealing Success: 50
                                AI Steal 2nd: 100
                                AI Steal 3rd: 50
                                AI Diveback: 50
                                Infielder Reaction Speed: 25
                                Outfielder Reaction Speed: 0

                                AI BATTING OPTIONS
                                Inside Edge: ON
                                AI Take Strike Overall: 100 (Thanks to SFG for these AI Take Sliders)
                                AI Take Strike Ahead: 65
                                AI Take Strike Behind: 35
                                AI Take Ball Overall: 100
                                AI Take Ball Ahead: 65
                                AI Take Ball Behind: 35
                                AI Skill: 50
                                AI Contact: 35
                                AI Power: 0
                                AI Foul Ball Frequency: 50
                                AI Bunt For Hit: 50


                                AI PITCHING OPTIONS
                                AI Corner: 50
                                AI Change Speed: 50
                                AI Throw Strike Overall: 0
                                AI Throw Strike Ahead: 0
                                AI Throw Strike Behind: 0
                                AI Fatigue: 70
                                AI Pickoff: 50
                                AI Pitchout: 50
                                AI Meat Pitch: 0
                                These look good, but there is one thing that concerns me. You lowered baserunning speed and left steal success alone. I already was struggling to steal bases (1 for 7 in about 6 games).

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