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  • daz
    Rookie
    • Jul 2002
    • 398

    #211
    Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

    Originally posted by xxjgbxx
    i must give it to dan these are a damn good sliders to base off of but im having a little trouble with triples, i played the giants and it seemed everything was hit into the gaps a lot and i think there were 6 or 7 triples in 2 games

    btw i was d backs vs giants
    I'm seeing a lot of extra base hits too, for the human settings more than the AI. In my last game, I had 9 hits (2 singles, 4 doubles and 3 HRs). I've been seeing this trend a little. I lowered the human contact by 5, but I might try to lower human skill by 5 or so.

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    • DanSF49
      Pro
      • Feb 2003
      • 936

      #212
      Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

      Originally posted by daz
      I'm seeing a lot of extra base hits too, for the human settings more than the AI. In my last game, I had 9 hits (2 singles, 4 doubles and 3 HRs). I've been seeing this trend a little. I lowered the human contact by 5, but I might try to lower human skill by 5 or so.
      Guys if you start to have problems with getting to many extra base hits or HRs, start by upping the Step Influence by increments of 5 first, then if you still are seeing to many I would start to bring down the Batting Skill by increments of 5. I wouldn't really mess with the Contact slider because in my testing I found that with it at 35 it gave the best balance of swings and misses and also being able to get to some outside pitches but not all of them.

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      • daz
        Rookie
        • Jul 2002
        • 398

        #213
        Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

        Originally posted by DanSF49
        Guys if you start to have problems with getting to many extra base hits or HRs, start by upping the Step Influence by increments of 5 first, then if you still are seeing to many I would start to bring down the Batting Skill by increments of 5. I wouldn't really mess with the Contact slider because in my testing I found that with it at 35 it gave the best balance of swings and misses and also being able to get to some outside pitches but not all of them.
        That's what I was wondering. Thanks

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        • NCComicRelief
          Rookie
          • Dec 2004
          • 6

          #214
          Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

          Been reading this and the other slider threads on here, and I've tried them all, but this one seem to be the most enjoyable. A week ago, I threw a perfect game with Ben Sheets against Pittsburgh, although I was still having trouble hitting. Now with the new slider set, I'm seeing an increase in the realism of hits, and most importantly, a dramatic decrease in the number of pop-ups.

          Good job on sliders, now we just need to start playing with the franchise progression sliders, and this game will rock!

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          • DanSF49
            Pro
            • Feb 2003
            • 936

            #215
            Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

            Originally posted by NCComicRelief
            Been reading this and the other slider threads on here, and I've tried them all, but this one seem to be the most enjoyable. A week ago, I threw a perfect game with Ben Sheets against Pittsburgh, although I was still having trouble hitting. Now with the new slider set, I'm seeing an increase in the realism of hits, and most importantly, a dramatic decrease in the number of pop-ups.

            Good job on sliders, now we just need to start playing with the franchise progression sliders, and this game will rock!
            Glad your enjoying them. I have also seen a increase in realism and fun with this new set. This will be close to my final set, right now I dont see any drastic changes needed to be made.

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            • xxjgbxx
              Pro
              • Apr 2008
              • 694

              #216
              Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

              what should i adjust for the AI just hitting a lot of gappers for about 90% of their hits

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              • DanSF49
                Pro
                • Feb 2003
                • 936

                #217
                Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                Originally posted by xxjgbxx
                what should i adjust for the AI just hitting a lot of gappers for about 90% of their hits
                If you guys are still having problems with the you or the AI hitting alot of gappers you can try switching the Batting Skill and Contact sliders. Now we have it at Skill-50, Contact -35, try Skill-35, Contact 50. I will test this also later today. The higher the skill the more shots that are hit into the gap maybe 50 is leaning a little to much towards gap shots. I'm not seeing anything that is unrealistic now with the current settings but I will try this out.

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                • thegoons21
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 703

                  #218
                  Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                  I'm liking these sliders as well, my one issue is that every outing the CPU is getting 15 hits a game. Now it's a toss up as to what the final score is going to be but 15 hits a game seems too high. I don't think I've had a 1-2-3 inning yet with these sliders in 5 games.

                  Otherwise, excellent job.

                  Oh and HR wise I've had 2 for cpu and 3 for me in 5 games.
                  RIP #21

                  DC United 2008 US Open Cup Champions

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                  • DanSF49
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 936

                    #219
                    Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                    Guys made 3 small changes to the sliders, plus I'm reposting the whole set again here with these changes in it.

                    Baserunning Speed - 65 (was 50) I started to notice not enough close plays at 1st.
                    AI Stealing Success - 65 (was 50) The handfuls of times they have stolen I nailed them by a mile.
                    AI Pitcher Fatigue - 75 (was 70) AI pitchers were tiring much slower then the my pitchers.


                    ALL SLIDERS ARE SET FROM THE FAR LEFT

                    HUMAN SLIDERS
                    Batting Skill: 50
                    Batting Contact: 35
                    Batting Power: 15
                    Foul Ball Frequency: 50
                    Batting Influence: 50
                    Step Influence: 0
                    Pitcher Difficulty: 65
                    Batter Bunt Assistance: 50
                    Batter Bunt for Hit: 50
                    Runner Baserunning Speed: 65
                    Runner Stealing Success: 35
                    Infielder Errors: 50
                    Outfielder Errors: 50
                    Throw Meter Difficulty: 80
                    Infielder Speed: 25
                    Outfielder Speed: 40
                    Infielder Reaction Speed: 25
                    Outfielder Reaction Speed: 0
                    Fielding Aggression: 50
                    Pitcher Fatigue: 65
                    Total Control Pitching: 80
                    Injuries: 50
                    Pitch Speed: 60

                    AI GENERAL OPTIONS
                    AI Infield Errors: 50
                    AI Outfield Errors: 50
                    AI Infielder Speed: 25
                    AI Outfielder Speed: 40
                    AI Fielding Aggression: 50
                    AI Hit n Run: 100
                    AI Sacrifice Bunt: 50
                    AI Squeeze: 25
                    AI Run Aggression: 100
                    AI Stealing Success: 65
                    AI Steal 2nd: 100
                    AI Steal 3rd: 50
                    AI Diveback: 50
                    Infielder Reaction Speed: 25
                    Outfielder Reaction Speed: 0

                    AI BATTING OPTIONS
                    Inside Edge: ON
                    AI Take Strike Overall: 100
                    AI Take Strike Ahead: 65
                    AI Take Strike Behind: 35
                    AI Take Ball Overall: 100
                    AI Take Ball Ahead: 65
                    AI Take Ball Behind: 35
                    AI Skill: 50
                    AI Contact: 35
                    AI Power: 0
                    AI Foul Ball Frequency: 50
                    AI Bunt For Hit: 50

                    AI PITCHING OPTIONS
                    AI Corner: 50
                    AI Change Speed: 50
                    AI Throw Strike Overall: 0
                    AI Throw Strike Ahead: 0
                    AI Throw Strike Behind: 0
                    AI Fatigue: 75
                    AI Pickoff: 50
                    AI Pitchout: 50
                    AI Meat Pitch: 0
                    Last edited by DanSF49; 04-22-2008, 01:25 PM.

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                    • DanSF49
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 936

                      #220
                      Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                      Originally posted by thegoons21
                      I'm liking these sliders as well, my one issue is that every outing the CPU is getting 15 hits a game. Now it's a toss up as to what the final score is going to be but 15 hits a game seems too high. I don't think I've had a 1-2-3 inning yet with these sliders in 5 games.

                      Otherwise, excellent job.

                      Oh and HR wise I've had 2 for cpu and 3 for me in 5 games.

                      Goons, keep playing with these and that will change. I had that happening to me for the first few games I played with this new set and I was about to change things, then all of the sudden I started to be able to hold the AI down pretty well. You will see those type of games pop up here and there but thats what makes this slider set so good. The randomness of each game is great.

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                      • The Kid 24
                        It's Show Time!
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 14765

                        #221
                        Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                        Originally posted by DanSF49
                        Guys made 3 small changes to the sliders, plus I'm reposting the whole set again here with these changes in it.

                        Baserunning Speed - 65 (was 50) I started to notice not enough close plays at 1st.
                        AI Stealing Success - 65 (was 50) The handfuls of times they have stolen I nailed them by a mile.
                        AI Pitcher Fatigue - 75 (was 70) AI pitchers were tiring much slower then the my pitchers.


                        ALL SLIDERS ARE SET FROM THE FAR LEFT

                        HUMAN SLIDERS
                        Batting Skill: 50
                        Batting Contact: 35
                        Batting Power: 15
                        Foul Ball Frequency: 50
                        Batting Influence: 50
                        Step Influence: 0
                        Pitcher Difficulty: 50
                        Batter Bunt Assistance: 50
                        Batter Bunt for Hit: 50
                        Runner Baserunning Speed: 65
                        Runner Stealing Success: 35
                        Infielder Errors: 50
                        Outfielder Errors: 50
                        Throw Meter Difficulty: 80
                        Infielder Speed: 25
                        Outfielder Speed: 40
                        Infielder Reaction Speed: 25
                        Outfielder Reaction Speed: 0
                        Fielding Aggression: 50
                        Pitcher Fatigue: 65
                        Total Control Pitching: 80
                        Injuries: 50
                        Pitch Speed: 60

                        AI GENERAL OPTIONS
                        AI Infield Errors: 50
                        AI Outfield Errors: 50
                        AI Infielder Speed: 25
                        AI Outfielder Speed: 40
                        AI Fielding Aggression: 50
                        AI Hit n Run: 100
                        AI Sacrifice Bunt: 50
                        AI Squeeze: 25
                        AI Run Aggression: 100
                        AI Stealing Success: 65
                        AI Steal 2nd: 100
                        AI Steal 3rd: 50
                        AI Diveback: 50
                        Infielder Reaction Speed: 25
                        Outfielder Reaction Speed: 0

                        AI BATTING OPTIONS
                        Inside Edge: ON
                        AI Take Strike Overall: 100
                        AI Take Strike Ahead: 65
                        AI Take Strike Behind: 35
                        AI Take Ball Overall: 100
                        AI Take Ball Ahead: 65
                        AI Take Ball Behind: 35
                        AI Skill: 50
                        AI Contact: 35
                        AI Power: 0
                        AI Foul Ball Frequency: 50
                        AI Bunt For Hit: 50

                        AI PITCHING OPTIONS
                        AI Corner: 50
                        AI Change Speed: 50
                        AI Throw Strike Overall: 0
                        AI Throw Strike Ahead: 0
                        AI Throw Strike Behind: 0
                        AI Fatigue: 75
                        AI Pickoff: 50
                        AI Pitchout: 50
                        AI Meat Pitch: 0
                        Hey dan... Its me again.. patchless prince and I'm gonna give these sliders a shot... Any suggestions with these sliders?
                        Milwaukee Brewers | Green Bay Packers | North Carolina Tar Heels | Wisconsin Badgers

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                        • DanSF49
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 936

                          #222
                          Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                          Originally posted by Prince of Milwaukee 28
                          Hey dan... Its me again.. patchless prince and I'm gonna give these sliders a shot... Any suggestions with these sliders?
                          Well I'm going to need you to give me some feedback with these new ones and then I can tell you what you might have to change since you are patchless.

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                          • The Kid 24
                            It's Show Time!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 14765

                            #223
                            Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                            Originally posted by DanSF49
                            Well I'm going to need you to give me some feedback with these new ones and then I can tell you what you might have to change since you are patchless.
                            I gonna use these sliders and some of your older ones and see what I come up with? Im just curious to see the results
                            Milwaukee Brewers | Green Bay Packers | North Carolina Tar Heels | Wisconsin Badgers

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                            • thegoons21
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 703

                              #224
                              Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                              Originally posted by DanSF49
                              Goons, keep playing with these and that will change. I had that happening to me for the first few games I played with this new set and I was about to change things, then all of the sudden I started to be able to hold the AI down pretty well. You will see those type of games pop up here and there but thats what makes this slider set so good. The randomness of each game is great.
                              I shall. I forgot to mention part of it is probably my own pitching....you're right though the different types of games have been great.

                              How much of an impact do you think the new baserunning changes will have? I ask because in a game last night I had a grounder hit to Zimm playing 3rd with a runner on 3rd, he threw a strike to homeplate and it was still a fairly close play but I got him out. In the same game Austin Kearns threw a strike (one hop) to home from right field on a tagging runner and it was still a close play (as it should be it was Jim Edmonds). I'd never had either of these happen before your 2nd sliders and am hoping changing the baserunning speed to 65 won't negate these plays....
                              RIP #21

                              DC United 2008 US Open Cup Champions

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                              • DanSF49
                                Pro
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 936

                                #225
                                Re: DanSF49's Bad Back Opening Day Sliders

                                Originally posted by thegoons21
                                I shall. I forgot to mention part of it is probably my own pitching....you're right though the different types of games have been great.

                                How much of an impact do you think the new baserunning changes will have? I ask because in a game last night I had a grounder hit to Zimm playing 3rd with a runner on 3rd, he threw a strike to homeplate and it was still a fairly close play but I got him out. In the same game Austin Kearns threw a strike (one hop) to home from right field on a tagging runner and it was still a close play (as it should be it was Jim Edmonds). I'd never had either of these happen before your 2nd sliders and am hoping changing the baserunning speed to 65 won't negate these plays....
                                Well let me know if you see anything that changes now with the new speed at 65, I havent seen anything specfically like that, that I can remember right now though.

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