mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

[DonkeyJote]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I looked at your screenshots and they say a hit avg of:
1st game .222/.250 (0 HR/0 HR)
2nd game .257/.250 (0 HR/0 HR)
3rd game .151/.233 (0 HR/1 HR)
4th game .107/.342 (0 HR/0 HR)
5th game .206/.294 (0 HR/1 HR)
6th game .250/.235 (0 HR/0 HR)
7th game .172/.285 (0 HR/1 HR)
8th game .205/.257 (0 HR/1 HR)
9th game .133/.294 (0 HR/0 HR)

I did not want to search for more. I see a general lack of power in there. Not only that the avg seems a little bit low, but like I said, when there are only 4 homeruns overall in 9 games, for me it would be way too low. There should be about 15 IMO. Regardless of who you are playing with, since you switch your home and away teams mostly as far as I have seen.

Not really understanding why you're trying to knock someone else's enjoyment of the game. You want more power, make the necessary changes. Regardless of what the numbers say, if DS or anyone else is enjoying it, let them be. Why does it matter at all to you what kind of numbers he's getting? Who the eff cares? Worry about your game, and let him worry about his.

[wudl83]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Not really understanding why you're trying to knock someone else's enjoyment of the game. You want more power, make the necessary changes. Regardless of what the numbers say, if DS or anyone else is enjoying it, let them be. Why does it matter at all to you what kind of numbers he's getting? Who the eff cares? Worry about your game, and let him worry about his.

Perhaps you should just read my previous posts? And then come here again and think about that BS you are throwing at me lol.

And for the case you don't care (as you imply with your post) then why do you even talk in this thread?

[Vince]

I looked at your screenshots and they say a hit avg of:
1st game .222/.250 (0 HR/0 HR)
2nd game .257/.250 (0 HR/0 HR)
3rd game .151/.233 (0 HR/1 HR)
4th game .107/.342 (0 HR/0 HR)
5th game .206/.294 (0 HR/1 HR)
6th game .250/.235 (0 HR/0 HR)
7th game .172/.285 (0 HR/1 HR)
8th game .205/.257 (0 HR/1 HR)
9th game .133/.294 (0 HR/0 HR)

I did not want to search for more. I see a general lack of power in there. Not only that the avg seems a little bit low, but like I said, when there are only 4 homeruns overall in 9 games, for me it would be way too low. There should be about 15 IMO. Regardless of who you are playing with, since you switch your home and away teams mostly as far as I have seen.

You have too much time on your hands. Let the man enjoy the game if it works for him.

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[wudl83]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

You have too much time on your hands. Let the man enjoy the game if it works for him.

Perhaps you should read, too. I said before that if he likes his games it is okay (this can even be seen at this page lol since he quoted me).

But when someone posts statistics in a sliders thread (!) I don't see any reason why I should not be allowed to note that I find some numbers too low.

Perhaps you have too much time on your hands when you come in here and tell me so pointless things.

To clarify it: if DS is happy with this settings it's absolutely ok. He is the guy that decides if the sliders are good for him or not.

But when we are in a slider thread that wants to give realistic gameplay I think we should be allowed to talk about the stats outcome. Especially when someone posts them, because when he does so I assume that he doesn't mind talking about it - and even more so when I state that I don't want to offend someone.

[DonkeyJote]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Perhaps you should just read my previous posts? And then come here again and think about that BS you are throwing at me lol.

And for the case you don't care (as you imply with your post) then why do you even talk in this thread?

I care about good sliders and coming up with a good set. In this case however, he has said he likes them. You asked if he was satisfied with them, and he said yes. So then you have to come in here with statistics to try and convince him he shouldn't like them? Come on, man, that's BS.

Perhaps you should read, too. I said before that if he likes his games it is okay (this can even be seen at this page lol since he quoted me).

But when someone posts statistics in a sliders thread (!) I don't see any reason why I should not be allowed to note that I find some numbers too low.

Perhaps you have too much time on your hands when you come in here and tell me so pointless things.

To clarify it: if DS is happy with this settings it's absolutely ok. He is the guy that decides if the sliders are good for him or not.

But when we are in a slider thread that wants to give realistic gameplay I think we should be allowed to talk about the stats outcome. Especially when someone posts them, because when he does so I assume that he doesn't mind talking about it - and even more so when I state that I don't want to offend someone.

Oh, well if you say "no offense", then you can just do whatever you want. Good call. Nevermind.


/sarcasm.

[wudl83]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I care about good sliders and coming up with a good set. In this case however, he has said he likes them. You asked if he was satisfied with them, and he said yes. So then you have to come in here with statistics to try and convince him he shouldn't like them? Come on, man, that's BS.



Oh, well if you say "no offense", then you can just do whatever you want. Good call. Nevermind.


/sarcasm.

I think he is old enough to talk for himself, I do not think he needs you. I will stop talking to you saying this.

Someone posts pictures of his stats (doesn't that indicate that he is somehow agreeing to talking about it?). After that I say there obviously lacks power (which goes hand in hand with the relatively low scoring). Then another person comes in his defense (although he doesn't even need defense). Well okay, it shall be so. Although I said that this wasn't meant as an offense I am the person that made something wrong.

Perhaps his gameplay experience could become even better when this hole was darned, but "nevermind" - I know it is very difficult to think thus far.

I learned: it is absolutely rude to talk about statistics that are slider related in a slider forum/slider thread. Cool.

[DonkeyJote]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I think he is old enough to talk for himself, I do not think he needs you. I will stop talking to you saying this.

Someone posts pictures of his stats (doesn't that indicate that he is somehow agreeing to talking about it?). After that I say there obviously lacks power (which goes hand in hand with the relatively low scoring). Then another person comes in his defense (although he doesn't even need defense). Well okay, it shall be so. Although I said that this wasn't meant as an offense I am the person that made something wrong.

Perhaps his gameplay experience could become even better when this hole was darned, but "nevermind" - I know it is very difficult to think thus far.

I learned: it is absolutely rude to talk about statistics that are slider related in a slider forum/slider thread. Cool.

There was nothing wrong with your initial question to him. It was a fair question to ask if he was satisfied with those results. It's when, after he said he was, you came back trying to convince him he was wrong.

[Blazzen]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

You might be right about that. In two games since I raised both the CPU put up a lot of runs on me. Then again, it was the Reds and Marlins who have pretty good offenses. I'll give it 6 or 8 games and see how it plays out and hopefully that should tell me which one I need to lower a tick.

And Wud you were right, I should've just raised one slider or the other. I'm really just seeing too much offense but on the bright side these couple of games determined that power needs to come down, not contact. I actually struck out a few more batters at 75 than I did at 70 which I'm sure is coincidence but it also tells me that I can leave contact at 75 to raise cpu offense without lowering CPU strike out numbers too much. With all the HR's COLD teams hit on me in the few games I played with 75/90 CPU batting power was the obvious choice to come down.

I'm really hoping this will be my final set - version 3 on the spreadsheet. I'll post game results as I have time to get games in.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1M3FJcGc#gid=4

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Appreciate the ideas / feedback presented here...

Small updates today:

- lowered user batting contact from 25 to 20 (my thanks to Blazzen for his spreadsheet that I had time to review and compare). Will require patience on your end, but a nice blend. User strikeouts will increase slightly, but you'll still be able to foul off pitches and drive the ball. (I brought in Eldred as a pinch-hitter - 68 power as RH batter vs. LH pitcher - and hit a pinch-hit 3-run HR on a 2-0 count). I also had 10 hits using the Tigers vs. the Royals (today's matchup).

- raised cpu batting contact from 75 to 80. Felt I was getting way too many user K's. I still get a good amount, but this also forces me to throw more pitches outside the strike-zone. I like this setting...but be warned - you gotta pitch smart.

- lowered cpu batting power from 90 to 85. I believe this is the balance. I fear leaving the cpu power at 90 as I think it could really get out of hand.

But, you have the option of leaving user contact at 25 (BUT I think you'll see too many extra base hits) and you can also use the cpu batting combination of 75 contact / 90 power (but I don't you'll see enough cpu base hits, especially singles, if you do this). Thanks!

[DetroitStyle]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Ya'll need to chill.

You can't compare my box scores though. All of them, except the last 3 I posted were done with a completely different slider set. I've made tweaks since then, so they are null and void.

I am having trouble with power though in general (in terms of HR's). Like MK said, he's killing the ball with the same settings I'm using. So maybe it's just me. It could be that I just don't sit on the right pitches, or have bad timing. I don't know, and don't really care at this point. I already went over this point with MK (read my above sentence) so I thought we were past this. Don't worry about what I'm getting so much, and focus on what you're getting. I post the boxes so you can compare to your own results.

[av0930]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Do these apply to pc version??

[DonkeyJote]

Do these apply to pc version??

Yes

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[AKain]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Mk, these in particular feel great...took a game to get redialed to CPU pitching, and was about back on avg. Especially for battng...and I use total control for Peter's sake!

[niharjhatn]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

As has been suggested with some of the 'pre-determination' that goes on in the game - I just think that a lot of hitting is based on a wide variety of variables, including runners on base, the count, etc. rather than simply pitcher ability vs batter ability.

I just played a series of games again Angels as Orioles and one game Jerome williams went through 8 innings allowing 1 run, and another I got Dan Haren out in the 1st inning (scoring 4 runs)...

But these sliders are awesome, thanks a lot mkharsh!

[Fiddy]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

i had a sweet game last night, Bucos and Braves. Livan gave up 7 runs to me the Bucos, in first 3 innings. beat him up, took pitches for once etc. he stayed in the whole game. he even batted in the bottom of the 8th when down 2 runs and runners on 1st and 2nd with 1 out. he hit into a double play lol. top 9th, i got a hit, they finally pulled him. hilarious. obviously 2k game issue, not sliders. frustrating to say the least.