Who's your nl mvp

**SportsTop** · 09-12-2005, 06:13 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by RattDaddee

Everyone in the NL East currently has a shot at a spot in the playoffs. The same can't be said of the Central, even if you drop the odd-team out, Pittsburgh.

Here's how the W-L records of the two divisions matchup:

NL East: 378-338 (.528)

NL Central: 375-339 (.525) Without Pittsburgh

NL Central: 432-424 (.505) With Pittsburgh

Good enough for a two game lead for the NL East with an even amount of teams, and sixteen game lead when factoring in the entire division.

Damnit. It is .528 for the east. That's what I get for adding it up and trying to remember it while I added the central.

**BGarrett7** · 09-12-2005, 06:14 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by Squint

Damnit. It is .528 for the east. That's what I get for adding it up and trying to remember it while I added the central.

Notepad is your friend.

**SportsTop** · 09-12-2005, 06:18 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by RattDaddee

Notepad is your friend.

Meh.....I work with numbers all day long. It may be the two rum and cokes I've had already.

**LiquidCrash** · 09-12-2005, 06:24 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Also, the Braves are 28-14 against the NL Central, while the Cards are just 18-14 against the NL East.

Andruw gets my vote for the MVP. I've watched a ton of Braves games this year, and he's just come up huge time after time.

**SportsTop** · 09-12-2005, 06:25 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by LiquidCrash

Also, the Braves are 28-14 against the NL Central, while the Cards are just 18-14 against the NL East.

Andruw gets my vote for the MVP. I've watched a ton of Braves games this year, and he's just come up huge time after time.

But, but, but.....he doesn't hit well with RISP and two outs on games played on Thursdays against division rivals so Pujols has to be the MVP.

**ZM Punk** · 09-12-2005, 06:40 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

I vote squint for Homer of the year. Do you not look at the numbers Puljols is playing for the team with the best record in baseball and look at how many players that team is missing (Rolen, Sanders,and Walker hasn't played most of the year either). Also if your saying they should count defense when judging the MVP race Puljols is one of the best defensive first basemen in the majors. Bar none if the race was is between Puljols and Jones Puljols wins the award and this is coming from somebody who hates the cardinals and not some homer who probably doesn't watch anybody other than the braves.

**Tmacattack** · 09-12-2005, 06:47 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by zitomulder

I vote squint for Homer of the year. Do you not look at the numbers Puljols is playing for the team with the best record in baseball and look at how many players that team is missing (Rolen, Sanders,and Walker hasn't played most of the year either). Also if your saying they should count defense when judging the MVP race Puljols is one of the best defensive first basemen in the majors. Bar none if the race was is between Puljols and Jones Puljols wins the award and this is coming from somebody who hates the cardinals and not some homer who probably doesn't watch anybody other than the braves.

man, talking about defence, andrew is a gold glover, so he definately has the bigger edge in that department. the problem is, i don't see someone with a .270 average being mvp of the league, but we'll see

**BGarrett7** · 09-12-2005, 06:49 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by zitomulder

I vote squint for Homer of the year. Do you not look at the numbers Puljols is playing for the team with the best record in baseball and look at how many players that team is missing (Rolen, Sanders,and Walker hasn't played most of the year either). Also if your saying they should count defense when judging the MVP race Puljols is one of the best defensive first basemen in the majors. Bar none if the race was is between Puljols and Jones Puljols wins the award and this is coming from somebody who hates the cardinals and not some homer who probably doesn't watch anybody other than the braves.

I believe we should disallow the opinions of those who can't even spell the name of one of the subjects.

**ZM Punk** · 09-12-2005, 06:53 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by RattDaddee

I believe we should disallow the opinions of those who can't even spell the name of one of the subjects.

yup and I think we should disallow opinions of people who do not know anything about baseball as well. I'll quit posting if you will.

**BGarrett7** · 09-12-2005, 06:54 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by zitomulder

yup and I think we should disallow opinions of people who do not know anything about baseball as well. I'll quit posting if you will.

Brilliant!

**BGarrett7** · 09-12-2005, 07:04 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Andruw currently has a sick 6.2 AB/HR ratio for September.

**ZM Punk** · 09-12-2005, 07:16 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by RattDaddee

Andruw currently has a sick 6.2 AB/HR ratio for September.

He is having a great September I give him credit but the overall numbers are just to overwhelming in Pujols favor.

**dkgojackets** · 09-12-2005, 07:28 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Zito I dont think youre helping the Pujols argument much here...

I still think it should be Albert followed by Andruw right now, .270 just doesnt say MVP to me, and you cant ignore how many more chances he has had to drive in runs, plus the fact the Bobby Cox is what makes that team go.

Still there is a month of baseball left. I cant remember if MVP is given before or after the playoffs, but a lot of stuff can still happen. It is obviously a very close race now.

**SportsTop** · 09-12-2005, 09:08 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by zitomulder

I vote squint for Homer of the year. Do you not look at the numbers Puljols is playing for the team with the best record in baseball and look at how many players that team is missing (Rolen, Sanders,and Walker hasn't played most of the year either). Also if your saying they should count defense when judging the MVP race Puljols is one of the best defensive first basemen in the majors. Bar none if the race was is between Puljols and Jones Puljols wins the award and this is coming from somebody who hates the cardinals and not some homer who probably doesn't watch anybody other than the braves.

Don't you have to actually root for the team in question to be considered a homer? Sorry, bub....but I'm a Padre fan and you don't see me screaming to vote Brian Giles MVP.

In case you haven't been paying attention all season, Jones has been playing with a bunch of rookies and second year players and with an injured Chipper Jones during a key stretch of the season when the rest of the N.L. East was all over Atlanta.

Nice try, but try again.....

**Braindo67** · 09-13-2005, 03:00 PM

Re: Who's your nl mvp

Originally posted by zitomulder

He is having a great September I give him credit but the overall numbers are just to overwhelming in Pujols favor.

Pujols has better numbers clearly, but it's not an award for best player. It's who is more valuable to there team. Pujols has a better surrounding cast than Andruw. Plus, don't forget how many plays AJ makes in the OF that saves games. I don't know, I'll take either one.

Who's your nl mvp

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