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Re: Zito to...Giants!?
And I would also like to point out that I've never said Zito was a bad pitcher or even sub-par pitcher. I'm just making a case for WHIP as a better indicator of a pitcher's abilities rather than wins.Comment
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No I got it, but the bottom line is baseball is a team sports. And you look at the great pitchers they play for some great teams. You need both to be a great pitcher. And the Giants do have a solid infield which will help him alot. Now the OUtfield is a different story! I just think wins is what matters to a pitcher and making the big bucks. I still think ERA is the most important thing!Comment
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ok, here it is. wins is obviously important for the HOF because historically there's been that "magical" mark of 300 wins. There's never been a magical WHIP mark. I agree with that. I also agree that pitchers pitch for the win. That's a no brainer. And nothing I've said earlier refutes that or disagrees with either point. My point is simple... WHIP shows how well a pitcher pitches, and what's important? Preventing the other team from scoring runs. The easiest way to do that is to keep them off base. Follow me so far? Therefore, keep the WHIP low is a great indication of a pitcher's ability to keep runners off base (and in a smaller fashion, k/9). However, no matter how low the WHIP is, if the offense can't score, the pitcher doesn't win. Therefore, wins is a team effort. Both on the pitching and defense to prevent runs, and the offense to score runs. Very few times during the course of 35 starts, will a pitcher completely dominates the game, and will rely on the team performance for that win. Most other times, the win will be a product of an entire team's effort.
And I would also like to point out that I've never said Zito was a bad pitcher or even sub-par pitcher. I'm just making a case for WHIP as a better indicator of a pitcher's abilities rather than wins.Comment
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NO I got you, I just disagree! Wins are what matter. I am sure you can break everything down, but at the end of a career what gets you in the hall! Wins! I will take Zito winning 20 games a year for the next 5 years over so pitcher that has a great WHIP, but only wins 10 games a year!
17,23,14, 11, 14, 16.
He's more likely to win 10 games a year, than 20 for 5 years straight.Comment
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The way it stands right now on paper, I think Boston got the best deal out of the entire league...I guess we'll how true that is when the season starts.Comment
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yeah, with the potential advertising bucks they'll make in japan, they'll easily make back that 51 mil posting fee.Comment
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