Official Trade Deadline Thread

[jt45]

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Well, the Rangers just aquired a young catcher from the Indians for Kenny Lofton. Wonder what that does to the Tex to the Braves for Salty et all possibility.

Max Ramirez is very far from the Majors too, so Salty is still very much desired by Texas.

[Easton]

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Max Ramirez is very far from the Majors too, so Salty is still very much desired by Texas.

Yeah, I just realized that. One article I read made it sound like he was close to breaking into the majors. That's what I get for not doing my research.

[eXperiment63]

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Bahahahahahahaha...

Get this... The Rangers demanded Clay Buchholz(#1 pitching prospect in baseball), Jon Lester, AND Jacoby Ellsbury from the Sox for Teixeira...

Yea........ that'll happen....

[daknight]

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I don't know much about the catcher from Cleveland, but the Rangers should've been able to get something more for Lofton. A class-A catcher is not what the Rangers should be after. Especially when you already have a farm system full of young inexperienced catchers with good upside.

That being said I hope that the Rangers go through with the Atlanta trade for Tex. At least Salt.....err..ummm is mlb ready and the other 2 have hreat upside.

I hope I'm wrong about this in the long run, but Rangers got ripped on this one. Not as bad as the other JD trades, but not near what the Rangers need now.

[BunnyHardaway]

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Apparently it was reported on a Baltimore radio station that the Orioles acquired Wily Mo Pena from Boston...I don't know how legit this is, someone posted it on the Orioles Hangout forums, but that'd be great if true.

[ExtremeGamer]

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I don't know much about the catcher from Cleveland, but the Rangers should've been able to get something more for Lofton. A class-A catcher is not what the Rangers should be after. Especially when you already have a farm system full of young inexperienced catchers with good upside.

That being said I hope that the Rangers go through with the Atlanta trade for Tex. At least Salt.....err..ummm is mlb ready and the other 2 have hreat upside.

I hope I'm wrong about this in the long run, but Rangers got ripped on this one. Not as bad as the other JD trades, but not near what the Rangers need now.

Ramirez has a cannon of an arm though, he just couldn't move up the Indians system. He'll be a major leaguer one day.

[dieselboy]

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I don't know much about the catcher from Cleveland, but the Rangers should've been able to get something more for Lofton.

Should of got more for a 40 year old CF, who signs with a new team every off-season and then gets traded to a contender? Thats what Kenny Lofton has become, a half-season rental for a poor club, and a 2nd half player for a contender. You are not going to get much more than a decent A-level prospect for him.

That Max kid looks to be pretty good. According to a few sites, he is actually not that good defensively, (contrary to EG), but he is currently hitting .303 with 12 homers and 62 RBIs. I have heard he will likely play 3B or DH as he gets closer to the bigs. Right now he is an offensive catcher.

Lofton has never even played LF, but I'm sure he can handle it. I like the move for both teams.

[ZM Punk]

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but they use no fore thought to speak of. "We need another hitter in the outfield. Cliff Floyd used to hit. We'll pay him alot." Everything they do is a stopgap. "Barrett is being a jerk, let's trade him. Done. Crap, no catcher, let's trade for Jason Kendell who's done nothing this season. Score!" The Cubs and Athletics are paying 13m together to fund Jason Kendall. He's responded by gettting one hit in 5 games with the Cubbies. He can't hold baserunners either, which gives him addedvalue in the national league where basestealing is at a higher premium than in the AL. If I'm the Cubs I start unloading this older guys who aren't producing, starting with Jones. I bring up Pie and let him take his lumps. Look to deal Floyd in the offseason and probably give up on Prior and Wood ever being productive members of your team again. I just thinkg trading a bunch of prospects to try to "reload" for a playoff push and fill holes doesn't make any sense. I don't think they're in "sell" mode by any means, but more of a "standbye" and play with what you have.

I agree 100%, there is no need to trade what little talent the Cubs have in their minor league system for a guy that you are basically just renting for two months. We just don't have the depth in our minor league system to do that.

We have tried to unload our older guys. The problem is no one in there right mind are going to take on those contracts. We might be able to unload JJ contract in the offseason. Floyds contract isn't really that bad so the FO isn't in that big of hurry to get rid of him.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Should of got more for a 40 year old CF, who signs with a new team every off-season and then gets traded to a contender? Thats what Kenny Lofton has become, a half-season rental for a poor club, and a 2nd half player for a contender. You are not going to get much more than a decent A-level prospect for him.

That Max kid looks to be pretty good. According to a few sites, he is actually not that good defensively, (contrary to EG), but he is currently hitting .303 with 12 homers and 62 RBIs. I have heard he will likely play 3B or DH as he gets closer to the bigs. Right now he is an offensive catcher.

Lofton has never even played LF, but I'm sure he can handle it. I like the move for both teams.

Having seen him play for a 1/2 a year at Lake County, I can assure you he has a cannon. Not sure about the rest of his abilities, but he has a cannon of an arm. All I said. He was a 3rd basemen when he joined Atlanta, converted to catcher. Either way, he was never going to see the field with us, and has been in Class A for 2 1/2 years now.

[dieselboy]

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Having seen him play for a year at Lake County, I can assure you he has a cannon. Not sure about the rest of his abilities, but he has a cannon of an arm. All I said. He was a 3rd basemen when he joined Atlanta, converted to catcher. Either way, he was never going to see the field with us, and has been in Class A for 2 1/2 years now.

Is he blocked at both 3B and C at the next level?

I saw his stats and some prospect reports on him...makes you wonder why he hasn't been moved up.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Is he blocked at both 3B and C at the next level?

I saw his stats and some prospect reports on him...makes you wonder why he hasn't been moved up.

With the Indians he was. We have Marte, had Kouzmanoff, and have Blake at 3rd. Victor and Shoppach are going no where at catcher with us.

With Texas, he could eventually be a catcher. Atlanta moved him from 3rd after one year of rookie ball to catcher, so not sure why there. He only played catcher with the Indians minor leauge system. He's very injury prone I believe, because I think he got hurt with Lake County, and then was hurt earlier this year. I could be wrong & thinking of someone else though.

[dieselboy]

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Phillies acquire Tadihito Iguchi.

"According to WSCR 670 out of Chicago, the Phillies have acquired second baseman Tadahito Iguchi from the White Sox for 21 year-old Low A ball reliever Mike Dubee. Dubee, son of Phillies pitching coach Rich Dubee, was originally drafted by the White Sox in 2004 but did not sign. Here's the press release for the trade, if you're interested. You really can't fault the Phils for making the move; they had to bring someone in to man second base. They didn't give up much in Dubee, and they could snag some draft picks for Iguchi after the season."

http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20070727&content_id=2112873&vkey=pr_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi

Second baseman Tadahito Iguchi was acquired by the Phillies from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for minor league righthander Michael Dubee, Senior Vice President & General Manager Pat Gillick announced today. Iguchi, 32, was hitting .251 with 17 doubles, four triples, six home runs and 31 RBI in 90 games for the White Sox this season. In 16 games against National League teams this season, he hit .311 (19-61). A native of Tokyo, Japan, Iguchi batted .281 last season with 18 home runs and 67 RBI in 138 games and appeared in 12 playoff games for Chicago in 2005.
Prior to coming to the United States, Iguchi spent eight seasons with the Fukuoka Daiei Hawks of the Japanese Pacific League, where he was a four-time All-Star and won three Gold Gloves as a second baseman. With Fukuoka, Iguchi hit .271 with 149 home runs, 507 RBI and 159 stolen bases.
In 363 career games in the U.S. -- all with the White Sox -- Iguchi has a .273 average with 39 home runs and 169 RBI.
Dubee, 22, was 4-4 with one save and a 3.88 ERA in 30 relief appearances for single-A Lakewood. He is the son of Phillies pitching coach Rich Dubee.

[dieselboy]

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With the Indians he was. We have Marte, had Kouzmanoff, and have Blake at 3rd. Victor and Shoppach are going no where at catcher with us.

With Texas, he could eventually be a catcher. Atlanta moved him from 3rd after one year of rookie ball to catcher, so not sure why there. He only played catcher with the Indians minor leauge system. He's very injury prone I believe, because I think he got hurt with Lake County, and then was hurt earlier this year. I could be wrong & thinking of someone else though.

Hmmm...interesting. I wonder why he never got moved up another minor league level?

[chippered]

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Hmmm...interesting. I wonder why he never got moved up another minor league level?

Not to mention he's now with his third major league team and still hasnt reached double A. But overall, BA has always spoken of him as a hit first catcher, but definetly a guy that could thrive in the AL.

[franch1se]

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another trade is in

Padres Acquire OF Scott Hairston from Arizona for AAA RP Leo Rosales