Rollins NL MVP

[NYJets]

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http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6944

[Nivek]

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I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks Rollins shouldn't have won is a bloody fool. When your leadoff man can hit 30 homeruns, drive in 94 RBI's, steal 41 bases, lead the league in triples, lead the league in runs scored, maintain an almost .300 average with over 700 plate appearances, and put up over 200 hits?

Remarkable achievement, well worth the contract extension.

[P2K]

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I think saying he's Coors Field created is going a little bit too far since he still had an 859 OPS on the road. He was definitely Coors field aided though.

Holliday was awesome this season. And yes, he was damn good on the road, I apologize. But Coors Field really helped his stats. Any other year, he's the MVP.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Holliday was awesome this season. And yes, he was damn good on the road, I apologize. But Coors Field really helped his stats. Any other year, he's the MVP.

You're too kind. Over 2/3's of his homers are @ Coors. His BA is 70 points lower on the road. Slug % 237 pts lower. He's a slightly above average offensive player outside of Colorado. I'll give him credit for being a good RBI man wherever he is.

[gta95]

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You're too kind. Over 2/3's of his homers are @ Coors. His BA is 70 points lower on the road. Slug % 237 pts lower. He's a slightly above average offensive player outside of Colorado. I'll give him credit for being a good RBI man wherever he is.

AMEN. Denver fans crying "awww East coast bias, awwww its because we play in Denver, awwww Holliday had better stats."

All I got to say is, Barry Bonds won it like 5 times on the west coast, and take a look at the HOME/AWAY splits. Holliday stinks anywere outside of Coors.

[bigfnjoe96]

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When your leadoff man can hit 30 homeruns, drive in 94 RBI's, steal 41 bases, lead the league in triples, lead the league in runs scored, maintain an almost .300 average with over 700 plate appearances, and put up over 200 hits?

Remarkable achievement, well worth the contract extension.

Concur. J-Rol had an incredible year & was steady all year long.

[SPTO]

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Personally i'd have given it to Holliday. I guess the defense argument that some commentators talked about may have been the factor as it IS harder to be a standout SS then LF.

[Kashanova]

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yeah i'd be happy with j-roll or holiday but i was rollin wit some met fans at my job saying wright got robbed LMAO

you dont get robbed when your team chokes like that

[Scottdau]

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Wow. Matt got screwed big time. I guess leading the league in hits, batting average, doubles and RBI's is not good enough anymore...

Playing in Colorado hurt him, but Phillies ball park is a joke too. So I think this was a bad move.

[P2K]

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Playing in Colorado hurt him, but Phillies ball park is a joke too. So I think this was a bad move.

Look up the split numbers, man. Look 'em up.

[Scottdau]

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Look up the split numbers, man. Look 'em up.

Sure he is good, and he hit great on the road, but that ball park is still a joke. When you hit a routine fly ball out and it goes out of the ball park, something is wrong. lol

[Sandman42]

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I don't really have a problem with Rollins winning it over Holliday. Holliday has better numbers, but that is inflated by Coors field. Neither are the best player in the NL though. I personally think Pujols, Hanley Ramirez, or Wright should have won over either of them.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Sure he is good, and he hit great on the road, but that ball park is still a joke. When you hit a routine fly ball out and it goes out of the ball park, something is wrong. lol

Rollins still put up the same numbers outside Citizens that he did in it. I don't expect Holliday to hit outside Coors the same way he does in the thin air. But the drop off shouldn't be astronomical. The splits w/Rollins are negligible. He's the same effective, productive player.

Like I said, I give Matt credit for being a clutch RBI guy. His numbers & his play in the postseason proved that to me. But his all around stats, particularly his power numbers, are Coors aided.

[Scottdau]

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Rollins still put up the same numbers outside Citizens that he did in it. I don't expect Holliday to hit outside Coors the same way he does in the thin air. But the drop off shouldn't be astronomical. The splits w/Rollins are negligible. He's the same effective, productive player.


Like I said, I give Matt credit for being a clutch RBI guy. His numbers & his play in the postseason proved that to me. But his all around stats, particularly his power numbers, are Coors aided.

He hit 12 HR on the road and 18 at home. Sure it is only 6 more HR's, but he definitely hit more Hrs at home.

I am happy for Jimmy he is nice young man and I coached against him and his highschool team, so I am happy he won, but I still think Matt had a better year.

[Shakedowncapo]

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Hahahaha...I love all the hate in this thread. Don't be bitter cause your leadoff hitter cant do it. Suck on those sourgrapes girls.


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