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  • FedEx227
    Pro
    • Feb 2007
    • 568

    #91
    Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

    Originally posted by YankeePride
    How is that an excellent point?

    It's rather silly to argue that someone isn't worth their contract because everyone makes so much money. The market allows for that money so comparing MLB salaries to regular working job salaries is ridiculous. It's not the same.

    You can only compare salaries to each other. Alex Rios, in comparison to other right fielders in the game, is not worth his salary. Throwing the "everyone is overpaid" card is side stepping the discussion.
    Is he market value for Center Fielders though?

    He's only a right fielder by virtue of Vernon Wells, he'll be a regular CFer for us by the end of this year or next year and in my mind he's definitely worth his value as a CF.
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    • steelcurtain311
      Banned
      • Feb 2009
      • 2087

      #92
      Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

      Originally posted by YankeePride
      How is that an excellent point?

      It's rather silly to argue that someone isn't worth their contract because everyone makes so much money. The market allows for that money so comparing MLB salaries to regular working job salaries is ridiculous. It's not the same.

      You can only compare salaries to each other. Alex Rios, in comparison to other right fielders in the game, is not worth his salary. Throwing the "everyone is overpaid" card is side stepping the discussion.
      It's doing no such thing.

      The fact of the matter is that the market is ridiculous. Selig should be embarrassed for letting it get to this point, but that's another story. Something like 10 million dollars a season is becoming an average salary, so I don't see why people keep bringing it up as if it's so awful, when it's for a guy who has been a solid player before and there's still a good chance that he isn't "done".

      It just seems like people are trying to blast Rios to appear like smart little insiders for pointing out where his WAR dropped to and how overpaid he is, when there's tons of worse contracts in the MLB than his. I don't understand it.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #93
        Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

        For those in Chicagoland how is Rios doing?
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        • NYJets
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 18637

          #94
          Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

          Originally posted by steelcurtain311

          It just seems like people are trying to blast Rios to appear like smart little insiders for pointing out where his WAR dropped to and how overpaid he is, when there's tons of worse contracts in the MLB than his. I don't understand it.

          All these worse contracts like Barry Zito and Vernon Wells get bashed all the time too so I don't know what your point is.

          It's not the worst contract in the league, but it is bad.
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          • carterjt47
            Banned
            • Aug 2009
            • 150

            #95
            Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

            It's not a surprise to see players getting overpayed these days,Wasn't A-Rod alittle overpayed?CC?Manny?Burnett?Kevin Brown?Carl Pavano? that's an example of bad contracts in MLB.

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #96
              Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

              Originally posted by steelcurtain311
              Something like 10 million dollars a season is becoming an average salary, so I don't see why people keep bringing it up as if it's so awful, when it's for a guy who has been a solid player before and there's still a good chance that he isn't "done".
              Average salary is $3.15 MM.

              And it gets brought up with Rios because he hasn't been a decent player recently. You can keep looking at one year and talk about the guy being amazing, but the stats don't show it. You keep bringing up WAR (which I never did) and yet, you still haven't brought up what stats of his actually warrant his contract.

              Your only argument is: everyone is overpaid or he isn't that overpaid. If that's how you want to defend your stance, then so be it. I won't get into a longer discussion with you over it because my belief is that your stance is ridiculous. I'm using stats to prove a point and your using nothing. Not sure how that makes a valuable discussion. So I'll exit it because it makes little sense to argue that stance.
              Last edited by CMH; 08-16-2009, 04:12 PM.
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              • carterjt47
                Banned
                • Aug 2009
                • 150

                #97
                Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

                Originally posted by YankeePride
                Average salary is $3.15 MM.
                Even bench warmers make decent cash

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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #98
                  Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

                  Originally posted by YankeePride
                  D'oh! I meant Rios.


                  That being said, how many times do the stats have to show that the guy isn't that good before people stop saying, "He's not great, but he's not that bad."

                  No, he is that bad. Look at the stats. At 28 years old, he's well into the area that he should have shown progression. Stop looking at his body and hearing what people say and look at the stats. They say he's not a good baseball player.

                  Alex Rios is not a good baseball player.
                  Code:
                  Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
                  2009	28	CHW	AL	29	106	102	4	15	4	0	1	3	1	1	2	25	.147	.162	.216	.378	-4	22	4	0	1	1	0	8/9
                  I was right. Enjoy him, Chicago; it's not going to get much better.
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                  "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                  • Ewing
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 863

                    #99
                    Re: Waiver claim placed on Alex Rios

                    Originally posted by YankeePride
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