Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
Going back to Posey for a minute. Looking at his JAWS (a combination of WAR7 [7 best seasons of WAR] and WAR) he needs to improve in all categories. His peak is close to the AVG of 14 HOFers (31.8 to 34.2 respectively). His overall WAR is is 31.7 and the average is 52.7. And JAWs is is 31.8 to 43.4. So as I said earlier he keeps it up at this pace yes he is in. But if his career ended now, no.
Also don't think we have talked about him before but what about Pedroia?
There are some milestones that will be important for the Laser Show...his career average is .299. What a difference another point would make. Also, his total of hits will be important. Right now he's at 1606...if he can get comfortably over 2000 (close to 2500 or even 3000), that would help. One thing Pedroia has going for him is there's more emphasis on defensive numbers than ever before and he's always been a UZR darling/Gold Glove candidate.
Age is working against Pedroia a little bit. He'll be 33 next month and will probably lose some more speed and range (possibly be more prone to injuries). I think he needs to be a 3-5 WAR guy for another 3-4 years and then he's probably a lock. That would get him to about 60 fWAR and his star power/postseason success/grittiness/clean record would get him over the hump eventually.Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan WolverinesComment
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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
Schilling was in the news a couple of years ago for alleging that a member of the Red Sox training staff offered to use PEDs on him to help him recover from a shoulder injury in 2008. Like most everything else that comes out of Schilling's pie hole, that allegation was found to be unsubstantiated.Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan WolverinesComment
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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
I'd say C.C just misses the cut, right?
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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
Ooh that's a hard one, I would have to say yes because of his struggles the last few years took him off the projected track he had as the next 300 wins pitcher but IDK he has some postseason success, a few dominant seasons maybe a notch under Halladay and Hernandez overall, no way he should get in if Mussina and Schilling don't though as he is surely below them
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Ooh that's a hard one, I would have to say yes because of his struggles the last few years took him off the projected track he had as the next 300 wins pitcher but IDK he has some postseason success, a few dominant seasons maybe a notch under Halladay and Hernandez overall, no way he should get in if Mussina and Schilling don't though as he is surely below them
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Also, on another note, will Sheffield, Palmiero, Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Clemons ect ever get in?Green Bay PackersSeattle MarinersNew York Rangers
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"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
Birds of a feather, ya know.Talk about things nobody cares.
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Bonds and Clemens were HOF'rs before they ever touched a needle...if they had both retired after the 1998 season they'd have been in for 13 years now.
Palmeiro, Sosa, and McGwire weren't all around great players. McGwire hit homers...that's it...and since he used PED's he won't get the benefit of the doubt for exceeding 500. Sosa, while more of an all around player than McGwire, "enhanced" his HOF resume with the homers. If he doesn't hit the homers he did, he's not in, and just like McGwire it will be looked at as if the PED's helped him get his HR total. Palmeiro was a compiler (some great offensive seasons in the late 1990's not withstanding), but with the finger wag in congress and then popping positive 6 months later he literally lost everything. He's already fallen off the ballot, so he'll need the vets committee to get him on...and that won't happen for a LONG, LONG time, if it ever does."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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I'm not sure Sosa deserves to be in even ignoring the PED issue, honestly.I write things on the Internet.
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I don't think it will happen that way though...
Bonds and Clemens were HOF'rs before they ever touched a needle...if they had both retired after the 1998 season they'd have been in for 13 years now.
Palmeiro, Sosa, and McGwire weren't all around great players. McGwire hit homers...that's it...and since he used PED's he won't get the benefit of the doubt for exceeding 500. Sosa, while more of an all around player than McGwire, "enhanced" his HOF resume with the homers. If he doesn't hit the homers he did, he's not in, and just like McGwire it will be looked at as if the PED's helped him get his HR total. Palmeiro was a compiler (some great offensive seasons in the late 1990's not withstanding), but with the finger wag in congress and then popping positive 6 months later he literally lost everything. He's already fallen off the ballot, so he'll need the vets committee to get him on...and that won't happen for a LONG, LONG time, if it ever does.
then once you let PED0files Bonds & Clemens in, the stigma is gone.Talk about things nobody cares.
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Talk about things nobody cares.
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