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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
Here's a few...
Felix Hernandez
Carlos Beltran
Yadier Molina
Joe Maddon
Theo Epstien
Mark Teixiera
Robby Cano
Roy Halladay
Troy Tulowitzki
Yes, no, maybe on any of these?Green Bay PackersSeattle MarinersNew York Rangers
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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
If Epstien is the architect behind ending the Curse of the Billy Goat, he's a lock imo. Especially since he ended The Curse of the Bambino already. I also think Maddon is the best most progressive manager in baseball, all he has to do is win a WS or 2.Green Bay PackersSeattle MarinersNew York Rangers
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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
For the most part I agree.
The only thing I would change is
Felix --> maybe
Halladay --> maybe
If Felix retired today, I don't think he makes it. If he can put together 5 more years of league average work and not fall apart, then I think he's golden. He already has the peak, he needs some more counting stats (wins) though.
Surprised that Halladay does't get more publicity. 65 fWAR, 203 wins (100 games over .500), 2000+ Ks, 131 ERA+ over 2750 IP, 2 Cy Youngs & 2 runner ups, 2 20-win seasons, 8x All-Star, a 3.5:1 K:BB ratio, a 3.38 ERA pitching in the AL East during the Steroid Era. A no-hitter and 2.37 ERA in the playoffs. Dealing with Canadians on a constant basis. He's a guy I'd consider voting for if I had a vote.Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan WolverinesComment
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Felix is a pretty questionable candidate now that he's hit the wall.
If Mussina and Schilling, two all-time great pitchers, are struggling to get in, I have a hard time seeing Felix getting in.I write things on the Internet.
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My yes vote for Felix is based on the fact that he's 29. His stuff has diminished, but I think he'll adapt and still be solid pitcher for another 6-7 years which should put him in the 200-215 win range and then if he hangs on until he's 40 he might get to 250.
Also, I do believe that Mussina/Schilling will both be in at some point..."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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Going back to Posey for a minute. Looking at his JAWS (a combination of WAR7 [7 best seasons of WAR] and WAR) he needs to improve in all categories. His peak is close to the AVG of 14 HOFers (31.8 to 34.2 respectively). His overall WAR is is 31.7 and the average is 52.7. And JAWs is is 31.8 to 43.4. So as I said earlier he keeps it up at this pace yes he is in. But if his career ended now, no.
Also don't think we have talked about him before but what about Pedroia?Comment
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I think Schilling eventually gets in, but you're still talking about a top 20 pitcher in the game's history with some lights-out October performances barely getting 50%+ of the vote after 4 years on the ballot.
The bar is just insanely high for starting pitchers right now. For a guy who's rapidly declining, Felix has a LOT of work still cut out for him.I write things on the Internet.
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Posey should be a 100% slam dunk. 3 World Series, MVP, Rookie of the Year, batting title, comeback player of the year, face of a franchise, one of the faces of the league post-Jeter, premium position, tons of memories and moments. Like, absolutely no doubt.Comment
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Yea I was pretty much thinking the same thing, I also think Halladay is in at some point too surely not a first ballot but had some dominant years on a ****ty Jays team, especially if Felix is in then he has to be in.
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Felix kinda falls into the Johan Santana level with me. I'm not quite sure it's HOF for either.Comment
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I'd vote for Halladay, but again, I can't see him getting in as long as Mussina and Schilling, two legit all-time greats, are fighting to get over 50% of the vote.I write things on the Internet.
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Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?
They all deserve to get in. Mussina has 270 wins and 200 is kind of the new 300, imo. Halladay I already made a case for. Schilling is also a yes for me, but he's struggling against himself more than anything. His personality is such that he makes it easy to not vote for him. Both Schilling and Mussina are right around 80 fWAR.
In some ways, we have Maddux and Randy Johnson to blame. They towered so far above their peers, it was easy to see these other guys as a tier below. Add to that the backlog of players being kept out due to PEDs/suspicions of PEDs and it's been difficult to fit all the deserving guys onto 1 ballot.Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan WolverinesComment
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