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  • Stroehms
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    • Jan 2008
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    #1

    Jason LaRue forced to retire..

    After suffering brain trauma during August 10th Reds/Cards 1st inning brawl.

    The culprit: Johnny Cueto

    Farwell, Mr. LaRue. You were a class act and a very very good back up catcher.


    Jason LaRue isn't sure whether he was kicked three times, four times or five. Truth to tell, it probably doesn't matter. Regardless of the count he will never play again.


    "I'm done," he says. "It's a simple decision."


    Speaking from his home outside San Antonio, LaRue related what he has experienced in nearly six weeks since an Aug. 10 incident in which Cincinnati Reds pitcher Johnny Cueto lashed out during a first-inning scrum against the Great American Ball Park backstop.


    Cueto's spikes raked Chris Carpenter's back and found LaRue's face, leaving the Cardinals' backup catcher with a severe concussion that only recently began to abate. When La Rue returned to St. Louis, specialists administered an impact test that revealed significant bruising and ordered the catcher home from the ballpark. Surprised by the level of concern, LaRue thought he was improving. Soon afterward he learned differently.


    "When it first happened I thought it was just another concussion. I felt within a couple days I would be fine," La Rue recalled. "But I didn't feel good. And for a long time nothing progressed."


    Resulting trauma to the brain left LaRue unable to drive or even to cook for himself. Minimal activity created sensations that he likened to seasickness, as LaRue would develop excruciating headaches and nausea.


    Watching television or riding in a car for more than a couple miles brought on symptoms. Eventually doctors ordered him to rejoin his family in Texas since he was in no condition to be left alone here.


    "Riding in a car going to the doctors I'd have to close my eyes," he said. "It's one of the hardest things in the world to explain. You don't feel right. It's been a little more than a month since it happened and I'm finally starting to feel more normal."


    La Rue can now drive himself and watch television but strenuous activity remains a no-no. At 36, he is 11 years into a major-league career that began with the 1999 Cincinnati Reds and brought him to the Cardinals in 2008.


    La Rue could see the end of his career before the Aug. 10 melee in Cincinnati but the incident has made the question of his return moot.
    La Rue estimates he has suffered "close to 20" concussions in his athletic career dating to high school football. Doctors warned him the next one might bring about symptoms at least, if not more, severe than what he now experiences.


    "If I was in a different situation, it wouldn't be anything like this," LaRue said. "But as a catcher you're so vulnerable to getting another (concussion). All it takes a foul ball to the head. Even as a backup that happened 3-5 times last year. It's not a question of if it would happen again, it's when. Nobody can guarantee anything. It'll probably be worse.


    "When I heard all that, I told them, 'You've answered all the questions I

    need answered.'"


    LaRue and his wife Heather have three young sons who often romped through the Cardinals post-game clubhouse. They frequently followed the team to road series, adding to a sense of family that made LaRue so fond of playing for the franchise.


    "They're the most important thing to me," he says. "I'm not going to play the game and get brain-damaged just because I want to play. The game has treated me right. I don't have to work again."


    The club has arranged for LaRue to rejoin the team in Pittsburgh Monday. The trip is two-fold: LaRue gets to share a final road trip with the club, and he will see a concussion specialist at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.


    The game never offered LaRue assurances. He started for the Reds for most of five seasons but never realized 400 at-bats in a single campaign. LaRue's ability to handle a pitching staff extended his career even after his offensive skills started to erode following 2006 right knee surgery. Hip problems surfaced more recently. Yet he still relished handling a pitching staff that included close friend Chris Carpenter and a core of veterans appreciative of the craft's mental side.


    LaRue never allowed himself a lavish lifestyle but takes comfort in the security he has achieved for his family.


    "I'm 36. At this age, you know every year can be your last year," LaRue says. "From Day One I played like it was going to be my last when I walked on the field. I surpassed all my goals playing 11 years. Did I think it might be my last even before what happened? Absolutely. You never really know. But I know now."


    Friends say that LaRue contemplated taking legal action against Cueto for the on-field assault that led to his condition but has since discarded the idea. La Rue says that he has no interest in pursuing the matter. However, he remains peeved over the actions of a player Carpenter described as 'some idiot."
    "
    I was going to retire on my own terms," LaRue says. "It's unfortunate that the blow that decided it came from someone kicking me in the head with spikes. I wouldn't say I would change things if you could rewrite history. They say things happen for certain reasons. In this case, I couldn't tell you why. Does it suck that my career is over because Johnny Cueto started kicking me in the head? Yes, it sucks.


    "I expected to walk away when I felt it was right. The bottom line: it's unfortunate."

  • Blzer
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    • Mar 2004
    • 42520

    #2
    Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

    It's not just because of what happened here, but I still don't approve of Cueto's "self-defense" tactics. The way I saw it, he was up against a net, not about to be trampled over. His kicking was pretty offensive if you ask me. Not only that, but look what it has caused.

    Don't know what else LaRue had in him anyway, but he has just woken up from his life-long dream.

    EDIT: I do want to note to everybody that we shouldn't suddenly hate Cueto more now because of this. We know what he did, we know what it could have caused. Now that we know what it did cause, does it make things worse? I personally disagree. It's like in football or hockey when there's a big injury because of some big hit. If he isn't hurt, it's a cool looking hit (maybe a little unethical, but cool nonetheless). If someone injures their neck and requires a stretcher, the violator is suddenly a jerk with a helmet on.

    That said, if you thought what Cueto did was worthy of being called self-defense before, stand by that. I feel more than awful for LaRue, but Cueto shouldn't suddenly be scrutinized or penalized any further because of this. That doesn't mean he shouldn't feel worse on his end, though. He is now forever in debt to LaRue whether he agrees with it or not.
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    • 24
      Forever A Legend
      • Sep 2008
      • 2809

      #3
      Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

      LaRue had this great ability to communicate with pitchers through out his career. he might be done with playing but i don't think we have seen the last of him in the sport


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      • SlimKibbles
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        • Apr 2004
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        #4
        Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

        Originally posted by Stroehms
        After suffering brain trauma during August 10th Reds/Cards 1st inning brawl.

        The culprit: Johnny Cueto

        Farwell, Mr. LaRue. You were a class act and a very very good back up catcher.
        Originally posted by From the article
        ...La Rue estimates he has suffered "close to 20" concussions in his athletic career dating to high school football. Doctors warned him the next one might bring about symptoms at least, if not more, severe than what he now experiences. ...
        I always like Jason when he played for the Reds. He was a decent hitter, played hard, and seemed like a good teammate. It's unfortunate that he is going out this way. However, I quoted the excerpt from the article because I think it's important and it's the first time I've seen any information about Jason's past with concussions. The way you worded your post, Stroehms, was that he's retiring solely because of Cueto. If Jason thinks he suffered close to 20 concussions over the course of his athletic career, whose to say the next player that plowed into him in a play at the plate and gave him a concussion wouldn't have done the same thing, which resulted in him retiring? Would people hate that guy? I don't condone what Johnny did with kicking using his spikes, but from the very beginning I've been in the "I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing" camp if I were pinned like he was during that whole incident. I've never been in a situation like that so I don't know what I would have done.
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        • TheMatrix31
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          • Jul 2002
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          #5
          Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

          Goodness...**** Johnny Cueto.

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          • steelcurtain311
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            • Feb 2009
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            #6
            Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

            I still remember Carpenter's interview after the fight when asked about Cueto he was like "It was completely unprofessional, I don't know where he learned to fight like that." I was cracking up, since he wasn't calling fighting in baseball unprofessional, but kicking at people the way he did.

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            • SlimKibbles
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              • Apr 2004
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              Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
              Goodness...**** Johnny Cueto.
              Whatever. Johnny caused those other 19 or 20 concussions that Jason sustained over the last 20 years.

              Originally posted by steelcurtain311
              I still remember Carpenter's interview after the fight when asked about Cueto he was like "It was completely unprofessional, I don't know where he learned to fight like that." I was cracking up, since he wasn't calling fighting in baseball unprofessional, but kicking at people the way he did.
              It's ironic isn't it? Besides, that scrum was dying down until Carpenter started saying crap, that I imagine wasn't very professional, to Dusty Baker and then it all started up again.
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              • CWood2
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                • May 2004
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                #8
                Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                What an underrated receiver. This guy was always an all star defender at the toughest position.

                Nice to hear that he took care of his money, which lightens the blow a little.

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                • countryboy
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                  • Sep 2003
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                  Say what you want...kicking a guy with your spikes is a bitch move. I don't care what anyone said...kicking a guy with spikes is a bitch move. Cueto is a bitch. He didn't cause the other concussions, but he did kick a guy in the head who now is suffering from having yet another concussion caused by, you guessed it..a kick to the head.

                  Cueto is a bitch. We can move on.
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                  • jake44np
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #10
                    Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    Say what you want...kicking a guy with your spikes is a bitch move. I don't care what anyone said...kicking a guy with spikes is a bitch move. Cueto is a bitch. He didn't cause the other concussions, but he did kick a guy in the head who now is suffering from having yet another concussion caused by, you guessed it..a kick to the head.

                    Cueto is a bitch. We can move on.
                    Then Carpenter is also a bitch!
                    The scrum was over until Carpenter started cussing at the whole Reds team.
                    Maybe next time he will think twice before running his mouth.
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                    • SlimKibbles
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                      • Apr 2004
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                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      Say what you want...kicking a guy with your spikes is a bitch move. I don't care what anyone said...kicking a guy with spikes is a bitch move. Cueto is a bitch. He didn't cause the other concussions, but he did kick a guy in the head who now is suffering from having yet another concussion caused by, you guessed it..a kick to the head.

                      Cueto is a bitch. We can move on.
                      What the hell would you do in that situation then? The guy was the starting pitcher for the game and was pinned up against the net. Right or wrong, Cueto's brain told him to kick, instead of using his hands risking injury, in order to stay safe.
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                      • Blzer
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                        Originally posted by SlimKibbles
                        What the hell would you do in that situation then? The guy was the starting pitcher for the game and was pinned up against the net. Right or wrong, Cueto's brain told him to kick, instead of using his hands risking injury, in order to stay safe.
                        I still feel like he wasn't in enough imminent danger to start attacking head-high with his 9-spike cleats. Again, he was pinned against the netting. As far as I'm concerned, he was the most protected guy in that scrap.

                        I'm not saying what I would have done in that situation, I just hope I don't ever fall into anything like that. But I know for a fact that my reactionary subconscious does not function like that. He reacted instinctively, and my instincts aren't quite as "provocative" as his are.
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                        • countryboy
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                          Originally posted by jake44np
                          Then Carpenter is also a bitch!
                          The scrum was over until Carpenter started cussing at the whole Reds team.
                          Maybe next time he will think twice before running his mouth.
                          yes because running your mouth is equal to kicking someone in the face with spikes. Are you serious?
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                          • countryboy
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                            • Sep 2003
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                            Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                            Originally posted by SlimKibbles
                            What the hell would you do in that situation then? The guy was the starting pitcher for the game and was pinned up against the net. Right or wrong, Cueto's brain told him to kick, instead of using his hands risking injury, in order to stay safe.
                            you push back. You under no circumstances kick someone with spikes. NONE. It has nothing to do with being a Reds player vs a Cardinals player, I don't care if it was the O's and Nats...you don't kick a player with spikes.

                            If he doesn't want to risk injury then stay out of it. Period.


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                            Watch the video...Carpenter has his back to him and he's surrounded by his own players. He puts his hands on the railing, lifts himself up and kicks with his feet. He's a bitch.

                            EDIT: Attached is a pic of Carpenter in the same situation..does he kick? The answer is no.
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                            Last edited by countryboy; 09-19-2010, 04:47 PM.
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                            • jake44np
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                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              yes because running your mouth is equal to kicking someone in the face with spikes. Are you serious?
                              Well if he doesnt run his mouth the scrum would have been over and LaRue would never have been kicked.
                              But then again he is a Cardinal so of course he is going to run his mouth and bitch and moan about everything.
                              See you guys are ok with the getting back at Phillips for running his mouth and then the Cards going after him but you arent ok with Carpenter running his mouth and the Reds coming after him.
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