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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52784

    #16
    Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

    Originally posted by jake44np
    Well if he doesnt run his mouth the scrum would have been over and LaRue would never have been kicked.
    But then again he is a Cardinal so of course he is going to run his mouth and bitch and moan about everything.
    See you guys are ok with the getting back at Phillips for running his mouth and then the Cards going after him but you arent ok with Carpenter running his mouth and the Reds coming after him.
    What are you talking about? I never brought up anything about Phillips. I never said it was ok for Carp to run his mouth. I said that Cueto was a bitch, which he is, for kicking at the players. Hell he could've easily kicked one of his own guys because the only two Cardinals around him were Carpenter, who had his back to him and LaRue who was trying to stop the Reds players from pushing him back.

    See this is the problem. You are going out of your way to condone and justify something that cannot be justified and condoned. It was a malicious, gutless act that Cueto did. I don't care what started the brawl, I don't care if Carpenter said he had sex with all the Reds' players wives...you don't kick at players. Its completely uncalled for. Can you honestly watch that video and say it was ok for Cueto to kick at Carp and LaRue?

    But continue to justify it by taking shots at the Cardinal players and saying its Carps fault for talking smack. Maybe you'll convince yourself that all of that was worth Cueto kicking at players and eventually injuring one to the point where he can no longer play the game and worse than that, is having trouble living out his daily activities.

    The fact that you are going out of your way to justify this is amazing. But hey, if you makes you feel better about the incident, knock yourself out. Just don't expect anyone, outside of Reds' faithful, to follow your thought process.
    Last edited by countryboy; 09-19-2010, 08:07 PM.
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    • SlimKibbles
      Supporter
      • Apr 2004
      • 7276

      #17
      Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

      Originally posted by countryboy
      What are you talking about? I never brought up anything about Phillips. I never said it was ok for Carp to run his mouth. I said that Cueto was a bitch, which he is, for kicking at the players. Hell he could've easily kicked one of his own guys because the only two Cardinals around him were Carpenter, who had his back to him and LaRue who was trying to stop the Reds players from pushing him back.

      See this is the problem. You are going out of your way to condone and justify something that cannot be justified and condoned. It was a malicious, gutless act that Cueto did. I don't care what started the brawl, I don't care if Carpenter said he had sex with all the Reds' players wives...you don't kick at players. Its completely uncalled for. Can you honestly watch that video and say it was ok for Cueto to kick at Carp and LaRue?

      But continue to justify it by taking shots at the Cardinal players and saying its Carps fault for talking smack. Maybe you'll convince yourself that all of that was worth Cueto kicking at players and eventually injuring one to the point where he can no longer play the game and worse than that, is having trouble living out his daily activities.

      The fact that you are going out of your way to justify this is amazing. But hey, if you makes you feel better about the incident, knock yourself out. Just don't expect anyone, outside of Reds' faithful, to follow your thought process.
      Maybe the 19 other concussions he's had played a part in that? What would your opinion be if Cueto punched LaRue, weakened by an average of 1 concussion per year over the last 20 years, and caused his 20th concussion which forced his retirement? Would you not feel as bad about it then?

      What I find laughable is that you find no fault whatsoever with that punk, Carpenter. He keeps his mouth shut and that brawl doesn't get any worse. Then he has the gall the next day to say, poor guy, he had to explain to his son what happened during the game the previous day. I wonder if he told his son what he said to Dusty Baker which escalated the whole thing after it had died down. I'm sure it wasn't something he'd like his son saying.

      CB, I don't think any of us are condoning what Cueto's brain instructed him to do was right. I wish he had handled it differently and that LaRue was still playing. I do think some of us are saying, "Can you blame him?" Right or wrong, it all puts him in a bad light. I've never been in a situation like that and have no idea what I would do. I have tried to put myself in his shoes and think about how I would react in a situation like that.
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52784

        #18
        Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

        Originally posted by SlimKibbles
        Maybe the 19 other concussions he's had played a part in that? What would your opinion be if Cueto punched LaRue, weakened by an average of 1 concussion per year over the last 20 years, and caused his 20th concussion which forced his retirement? Would you not feel as bad about it then?
        I made that comment to illustrate a point, which is I find it repulsive that anyone would try to justify the actions of Cueto by continuing to say that Carpenter escalated the brawl.

        What I find laughable is that you find no fault whatsoever with that punk, Carpenter. He keeps his mouth shut and that brawl doesn't get any worse. Then he has the gall the next day to say, poor guy, he had to explain to his son what happened during the game the previous day. I wonder if he told his son what he said to Dusty Baker which escalated the whole thing after it had died down. I'm sure it wasn't something he'd like his son saying.
        Please point out where I stated that I found no fault in Carpenter's actions? Go ahead I'll wait. Done? I never said anything in this thread about who was wrong with what. The thread talked about how LaRue was retiring due to the kick in the face that received from Cueto. Nobody was innocent in that brawl, not Carp, Molina, Phillips, Cueto, not a single person.

        But if you're going to place blame at the feet of Carp for what happened to LaRue, then how in the hell can you not place blame at Cueto, you know the guy who actually kicked him? Hell, if Phillips shuts his damn mouth none of this would've started.

        And to speculate the conversation between Carp and his son is silly. No one knows what comments were made.

        CB, I don't think any of us are condoning what Cueto's brain instructed him to do was right. I wish he had handled it differently and that LaRue was still playing. I do think some of us are saying, "Can you blame him?" Right or wrong, it all puts him in a bad light. I've never been in a situation like that and have no idea what I would do. I have tried to put myself in his shoes and think about how I would react in a situation like that.
        Can I blame a guy for deliberately kicking another player in the back and then in the face? Hell yes I can. I simply cannot believe that anyone, ANYONE, would try to cast blame for Cueto's actions at anyone else's feet. We can "if" this thing to death, but the bottom line is that Cueto kicked LaRue in the head. He was deliberately kicking with the intent to harm. It was repulsive and to try and spin it any differently is absolutely ridiculous.
        Last edited by countryboy; 09-19-2010, 08:57 PM.
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        • daflyboys
          Banned
          • May 2003
          • 18238

          #19
          Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

          The point is is that other things didn't happen. Exactly what happened, happened. You can propose all kinds of scenarios. Running your mouth doesn't equate to purposely kicking someone with spikes and it didn't cause it. The Dodgers/Giants brush backs and subsequent **** slinging didn't CAUSE Marichal to hit Roseboro over the head.... he did that on his own.

          And no one, no matter how long they've been around here, should tell other people how to react emotionally about this. That's out of bounds.

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          • Scottdau
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 32580

            #20
            Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

            Both teams are bitches. Sucks for Jason. He was a beast on the Reds when he first came up. I remember some of the HR's he hit against the Giants like it was yesterday. The bottom line it is a fight and **** happens in a fight, sucks for Jason, but it is what it is.

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            • jake44np
              Post Like a Champion!
              • Jul 2002
              • 9563

              #21
              Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

              Originally posted by Scottdau
              Both teams are bitches. Sucks for Jason. He was a beast on the Reds when he first came up. I remember some of the HR's he hit against the Giants like it was yesterday. The bottom line it is a fight and **** happens in a fight, sucks for Jason, but it is what it is.
              Best post of the thread!
              Great point it was a fight (that the Cards started by the way) and **** happens in a fight.
              If you dont want to be hurnt in a fight dont start one.
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              • daflyboys
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 18238

                #22
                Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                Originally posted by jake44np
                Best post of the thread!
                Great point it was a fight (that the Cards started by the way) and **** happens in a fight.
                If you dont want to be hurnt in a fight dont start one.
                No....it's not the best post of the thread (I mean, really, have you ever read some of his other postings?)

                Verbal fights do not equal getting kicked in the face with spikes.

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                • Knight165
                  *ll St*r
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 24964

                  #23
                  Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                  Kickin' with spikes on....
                  hmmmm...
                  slightly effeminate I would say.
                  Johnny....you forgot your purse and your lipstick is a bit smeared.

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                  • Stroehms
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2640

                    #24
                    Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                    Originally posted by daflyboys
                    The point is is that other things didn't happen. Exactly what happened, happened. You can propose all kinds of scenarios. Running your mouth doesn't equate to purposely kicking someone with spikes and it didn't cause it. The Dodgers/Giants brush backs and subsequent **** slinging didn't CAUSE Marichal to hit Roseboro over the head.... he did that on his own.

                    And no one, no matter how long they've been around here, should tell other people how to react emotionally about this. That's out of bounds.
                    That's what I'm saying!

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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52784

                      #25
                      Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                      Originally posted by jake44np
                      Best post of the thread!
                      Great point it was a fight (that the Cards started by the way) and **** happens in a fight.
                      If you dont want to be hurnt in a fight dont start one.
                      LMAO! I swear man, you can't see the forest for the trees.

                      Your too caught up in the Cards vs Reds nonsense, that you are completely overlooking what is actually being talked about here.

                      A player purposely kicked a player in the back and one in the face. Remove the uniforms, forget its the Cardinals and the Reds, you are actually going to set there and tell me that its ok? What if the roles were reversed and LaRue kicked Cueto in the face...would you just blow it off as.."well **** happens in a fight"

                      As for your "don't wanna get hurt in a fight, don't start one" maybe you should tell Brandon Phillips to be a ballplayer and not a thug. Because when you get down to it my friend, non of this happens, if he isn't a tough guy behind the print of the media.
                      Last edited by countryboy; 09-20-2010, 05:13 PM.
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                      • Scottdau
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 32580

                        #26
                        Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                        Originally posted by daflyboys
                        No....it's not the best post of the thread (I mean, really, have you ever read some of his other postings?)

                        Verbal fights do not equal getting kicked in the face with spikes.
                        Ouch you are off my Christmas card list and yes it is a fight when teams go out like that so one is going to get hurt. That is what happens in fights the only difference is usually it doesn't go that far.

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                        • Scottdau
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 32580

                          #27
                          Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          LMAO! I swear man, you can't see the forest for the trees.

                          Your too caught up in the Cards vs Reds nonsense, that you are completely overlooking what is actually being talked about here.

                          A player purposely kicked a player in the back and one in the face. Remove the uniforms, forget its the Cardinals and the Reds, you are actually going to set there and tell me that its ok? What if the roles were reversed and LaRue kicked Cueto in the face...would you just blow it off as.."well **** happens in a fight"

                          As for your "don't wanna get hurt in a fight, don't start one" maybe you should tell Brandon Phillips to be a ballplayer and not a thug. Because when you get down to it my friend, non of this happens, if he isn't a tough guy behind the print of the media.
                          It is not right, but it happens and when you go out in a fight you have to be worried of crazy people. Maybe I just see it different because I see gang fights in my class a lot.

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #28
                            Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                            I will say this this guy should be kick out of baseball though. You can't do what he did. But in a fight like they had you don't really have a good sense of what it is right and wrong at the moment. But he should pay for what he did.

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                            • daflyboys
                              Banned
                              • May 2003
                              • 18238

                              #29
                              Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                              I'm pretty sure I can rest my case.

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                              • Scottdau
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 32580

                                #30
                                Re: Jason LaRue forced to retire..

                                You care to share what you disagree with instead of always having a smart *** remark about me?

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