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  • snepp
    We'll waste him too.
    • Apr 2003
    • 10007

    #136
    Re: The Adrian Gonzalez Saga

    There is zero room for error with a small payroll though, if you screw up, you're ****ed. San Diego can't flush a hundred million down the toilet on scrubs, shrug their shoulders, and just move on to the next big target.
    Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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    • elTodd
      Little Big Puig
      • Feb 2004
      • 1333

      #137
      Re: The Adrian Gonzalez Saga

      Originally posted by CWood2
      The indightment shouldn't be on Major League Baseball if you dislike the direction of your hometown team.

      The point missed is that a deep farm system means you have a nucleus for the future that is cost controlled. You call up a young stud, and you've got 5 or 6 years before you have to pay them. The Pads didn't draft Adrian Gonzalez. And by comparison, if you're a Rays fan, you're letting Crawford, Soriano and Pena walk. But guess what ... Desmond Jennings is ready to be a star, Jeremy Hellickson is already a star, and another group of young talent will offset the free agent losses to a decent extent.

      Teams can win without huge payrolls, as evident by a near playoff appearance last year by your boys in beige. They'll be back, BK.
      But the difference between a deep Red Sox or Yankees farm system, and say a Padres or other small payroll team, is that the prospects for the Red Sox are worth so much more.

      The Red Sox can afford to trade those prospects away when their value is highest for a big time player who they can likely resign. Unlike the Padres who have to bank on them turning into above-average Major League talent (which we know doesn't happen very often). Like BK said, a prospect is just that, a prospect. There is no guarantee that a player will live up to his "potential".

      And if the Red Sox hang on to a prospect and he turns into a superstar, they lose nothing. There really is no risk, unlike a small market team.

      Its easy to say "draft well", but I think we all know thats easier said than done. There is just too much uncertainty and too many variables that affect whether or not a prospect becomes a superstar.

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      • Sportsforever
        NL MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 20368

        #138
        Re: The Adrian Gonzalez Saga

        So I got to hear Casey Kelly on the local San Diego radio show this morning. Let me get this straight: so this is supposed to be the centerpiece of this trade, a future stud pitcher, and he has played more SS than he has pitched as a professional? I looked at his minor league pitching stats and they aren't special. I don't expect for him to become a Latos.
        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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        • EnigmaNemesis
          Animal Liberation
          • Apr 2006
          • 12216

          #139
          Re: The Adrian Gonzalez Saga

          Originally posted by Sportsforever
          So I got to hear Casey Kelly on the local San Diego radio show this morning. Let me get this straight: so this is supposed to be the centerpiece of this trade, a future stud pitcher, and he has played more SS than he has pitched as a professional? I looked at his minor league pitching stats and they aren't special. I don't expect for him to become a Latos.
          That is not unheard of. Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd played SS early on in his minor league career. Good guy too. Had a few drinks with him one time.
          Boston Red Sox | Miami Dolphins

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          • BatsareBugs
            LVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 12553

            #140
            Re: The Adrian Gonzalez Saga

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            So I got to hear Casey Kelly on the local San Diego radio show this morning. Let me get this straight: so this is supposed to be the centerpiece of this trade, a future stud pitcher, and he has played more SS than he has pitched as a professional? I looked at his minor league pitching stats and they aren't special. I don't expect for him to become a Latos.
            Since switching from SS to SP, Kelly's first full pro season as a SP saw him jump through A and advanced A+. Instead of repeating A+ ball, where he posted a 1-4 record witha 3.09 ERA, the Red Sox moved him up to AA. He also had a jump in velocity as well. Instead of looking at how his stats ended up, I think it's better to say that unlike Matt Bush who was made the same transition, Kelly didn't blow out his arm in the process.

            I think his ranking is based purely on his pitching potential rather than the mediocre statistics he accumulated in AA. He's still only 21.

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            • CWood2
              TNA & WWE thanks you
              • May 2004
              • 4356

              #141
              Re: The Adrian Gonzalez Saga

              Originally posted by elTodd
              But the difference between a deep Red Sox or Yankees farm system, and say a Padres or other small payroll team, is that the prospects for the Red Sox are worth so much more.

              The Red Sox can afford to trade those prospects away when their value is highest for a big time player who they can likely resign. Unlike the Padres who have to bank on them turning into above-average Major League talent (which we know doesn't happen very often). Like BK said, a prospect is just that, a prospect. There is no guarantee that a player will live up to his "potential".

              And if the Red Sox hang on to a prospect and he turns into a superstar, they lose nothing. There really is no risk, unlike a small market team.

              Its easy to say "draft well", but I think we all know thats easier said than done. There is just too much uncertainty and too many variables that affect whether or not a prospect becomes a superstar.
              All very fair points el.

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