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  • CWood2
    TNA & WWE thanks you
    • May 2004
    • 4356

    #61
    Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

    Originally posted by bkrich83
    They aren't great young players. They are prospects nothing, more. The odds of of even two of them panning out are slim.

    Besides why does it matter? Even if they do develop SD will just end up trading them back to you for prospects.
    Rangers fans could have said the same thing about the Texiera deal from Atlanta, but they fleeced the Braves getting all the star young players they did that helped them get to the WS.

    Don't give up hope bk.

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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52920

      #62
      Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

      Meh, for every prospect that turns out good, there are so many that are utterly worthless. Saltalamacchia was the centerpiece of that deal and he's pretty worthless. They were lucky Andrus and Feliz came through, though.

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      • BatsareBugs
        LVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 12553

        #63
        Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

        So the deal fell through because they couldn't agree to an extension. Yet, I'm not surprised at all.

        Situation in San Diego sucks, but hey, it's all good with MLB that they agreed that Moorad could buy the team over the course of several years. As long as it's a small, meaningless organization like the Padres it's perfectly fine.

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        • CWood2
          TNA & WWE thanks you
          • May 2004
          • 4356

          #64
          I don't think this thing is dead, personally. Theo knows that he'll have to pay more next year, and he needs Adrian NOW. Werth is rumored to have signed with Washington, and you need to act before Beltre gets gobbled up even though Oakland could be out.

          Plus, the Boston media will eat Theo alive if he doesn't land him.

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          • Chrisksaint
            $$$
            • Apr 2010
            • 19127

            #65
            Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

            Originally posted by TheMatrix31
            Meh, for every prospect that turns out good, there are so many that are utterly worthless. Saltalamacchia was the centerpiece of that deal and he's pretty worthless. They were lucky Andrus and Feliz came through, though.
            Exactly, look at the Cabrera trade now and you think how bad of a trade it was but it's opposite when you look at the Beckett/Hanley trade
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            • Kobalt
              All Star
              • May 2010
              • 9674

              #66
              Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

              The deal is done. A-Gon to Red Sox.

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              • osubeavs721
                Banned
                • Dec 2008
                • 1577

                #67
                Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                Originally posted by Kobalt
                The deal is done. A-Gon to Red Sox.
                link? everything i have seen is that we dont know if the deal is done yet.

                And to the SD fans complaining about big market teams getting the big name players. Guess what they spend money and usually smartly. Guess what, your owner probably pockets the luxury tax share that he gets instead of spending it on your team. Thats not the Red Sox or Yankees fault. All these owner have money to spend and choose not to. The disparity is there because you're billionaire owners dont want to spend cash and ours do. I mean if you dont spend it smartly then you dont win, like the yankees in the 2000's up til 2009.

                Do the smaller market teams have as much money to spend. No, but they have enough to compete and choose not to. Not the big market teams fault

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                • Kobalt
                  All Star
                  • May 2010
                  • 9674

                  #68
                  Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                  Originally posted by osubeavs721
                  link? everything i have seen is that we dont know if the deal is done yet.

                  And to the SD fans complaining about big market teams getting the big name players. Guess what they spend money and usually smartly. Guess what, your owner probably pockets the luxury tax share that he gets instead of spending it on your team. Thats not the Red Sox or Yankees fault. All these owner have money to spend and choose not to. The disparity is there because you're billionaire owners dont want to spend cash and ours do. I mean if you dont spend it smartly then you dont win, like the yankees in the 2000's up til 2009.

                  Do the smaller market teams have as much money to spend. No, but they have enough to compete and choose not to. Not the big market teams fault
                  After being the subject of trade rumors for close to two years, Adrian Gonzalez is finally on his way out …


                  There you go

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                  • osubeavs721
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1577

                    #69
                    Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                    Originally posted by Kobalt
                    NICE!!!! Makes my weekend a little better

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                    • CWood2
                      TNA & WWE thanks you
                      • May 2004
                      • 4356

                      #70
                      Re: The Adrian Gonzalez Saga

                      ESPN also now reporting. Knew this had to get done.

                      Looks like there's no ink on the paper, but the parameters are agreed to.

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                      • BatsareBugs
                        LVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12553

                        #71
                        Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                        Originally posted by osubeavs721
                        link? everything i have seen is that we dont know if the deal is done yet.

                        And to the SD fans complaining about big market teams getting the big name players. Guess what they spend money and usually smartly. Guess what, your owner probably pockets the luxury tax share that he gets instead of spending it on your team. Thats not the Red Sox or Yankees fault. All these owner have money to spend and choose not to. The disparity is there because you're billionaire owners dont want to spend cash and ours do. I mean if you dont spend it smartly then you dont win, like the yankees in the 2000's up til 2009.

                        Do the smaller market teams have as much money to spend. No, but they have enough to compete and choose not to. Not the big market teams fault
                        Sounds like you have an axe to grind with Padre fans. Who exactly is complaining? I certainly am not. The problem isn't Moorad but the whole situation with the "buying the portions of team over a period of time." That is solely on MLB for approving such a type of sale. It has nothing to do with New York, Boston, or any other ballclub. Now if the sale is finally completed and Moorad still has the payroll this low, then he should be criticized.

                        Adrian was going to be gone by 2012 whether it was by a trade or free agency. Obviously Hoyer did the right thing by not waiting until the trade deadline, obviously learning from how Towers handled Peavy's situation which not surprisingly led to what is so far a better return. Even if he were to stay, it really does not help a small market team like the Padres to lock up Adrian with a $15+ million a year contract (which is why Peavy ended up having to go). Unless the Padres bring up their payroll to at $90 million in the next couple of years (again unlikely), there is not much room to improve the team and Adrian's years would be wasted.

                        Instead the Padres are better served by focusing on their farm system and developing players.

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                        • Dispatch
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 2339

                          #72
                          Re: The Adrian Gonzalez Saga

                          Pretty excited about this deal now that it has been confirmed. Sox get a stud and only give up prospects. I mean the prospects were all highly rated but the chances of them ever making the big league club were slim.

                          Kelly has great potential but the Sox rotation is all set for the next few years with Lester, Buchholz, Beckett, Lackey, and Dice-K. In my eyes Kelly was always just a trading chip.

                          Not to mention the fact that the Sox will end up with 5 selections within the first 50 picks in this years draft to help add to our prospect depth.

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                          • bkrich83
                            Has Been
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71582

                            #73
                            Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                            Originally posted by osubeavs721
                            link? everything i have seen is that we dont know if the deal is done yet.

                            And to the SD fans complaining about big market teams getting the big name players. Guess what they spend money and usually smartly. Guess what, your owner probably pockets the luxury tax share that he gets instead of spending it on your team. Thats not the Red Sox or Yankees fault. All these owner have money to spend and choose not to. The disparity is there because you're billionaire owners dont want to spend cash and ours do. I mean if you dont spend it smartly then you dont win, like the yankees in the 2000's up til 2009.

                            Do the smaller market teams have as much money to spend. No, but they have enough to compete and choose not to. Not the big market teams fault
                            Errr Wrong, and besides you missed the point. Not surprised though fans of big market teams usually spew this BS to defend their competitive advantage... The MLB has become a complete joke.
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                            • bkrich83
                              Has Been
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71582

                              #74
                              Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                              Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                              Instead the Padres are better served by focusing on their farm system and developing players.
                              Why? So they can trade them to New York or Boston as soon as they do develop?
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                              • BatsareBugs
                                LVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 12553

                                #75
                                Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                                Originally posted by bkrich83
                                Why? So they can trade them to New York or Boston as soon as they do develop?
                                What other way can they build a team? Free agency? Pssh, either the Cubs would win a World Series or hell would freeze over if the Padres ever decide to do so.

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