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  • wwharton
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2002
    • 26949

    #16
    Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

    Originally posted by Graphik
    Yea, thats true but there were and still are a ton of folks against Bonds. It almost seems like everyone in the world can imagine that Bonds knowingly took roids except him. I'm pretty sure everyone here who has ever had prescribed drugs looks at the list of side effects before you start chuggin. Who in their right mind would put anything on thier body or swallow anything without knowing exactly what it is. What is he, a toddler?

    I cant get enough of laughing at the guy. Its funny how the rest of the roid crew backed out quietly while Bonds persist he didn't know.
    Us getting prescribed drugs are very different than these situations though. On one hand you could have a teammate rubbing something and telling you that you should try it (can see many young athletes just going with it w/o reading anything) and on another you have well paid athletes that hire others to read labels for them. Bonds could fall in either or both, and it'd make perfect sense.

    I personally think he's full of ****, of course, but the excuse isn't as outrageous as it may seem. Also, consider that all of this was in a time where it wasn't taboo to take steroids so you didn't feel the need to have 10 people looking over everything you took to stay out of trouble. The whole idea of coming down on these players is actually pretty ridiculous. The MLB knew roids were being taken and from the top down, nobody cared. Then when someone starts caring, you can't go back in time and punish guys for what they did before that point. I've got no problem with going after Bonds for lying to congress. But as far as his place in baseball history is concerned, it should be a nonfactor. The purists should open their eyes to EVERYTHING that's gone on from the beginning of time and all the people that were using PEDs. It was a part of a game for a good amount of time and should be treated as such.

    People don't like Bonds bc the guy is a dick, and with his arrogance and how obvious it seems that he's lying that just makes it all worse.

    Originally posted by SPTO
    I don't see it as total desperation on the feds' part in that she paints a picture of Bonds and his steroid use. It's pretty graphic and in some ways I don't think it belongs in court but Bonds brought this on by being so bullish so he's gonna have to accept it.

    There's conflicting reports out there that the feds will be able to admit the failed steroid test of '03 though other lawyers say it won't be allowed in court. I guess we'll have to see.
    I disagree. What is the picture she's painting? Her ex is an arrogant ***. She's probably willing to paint whatever picture they tell her to. I don't see anything with sticking power. He told her he used? Well who is she and why should we believe that. His performance in bed declined. Come on now. I just don't see anything that she can offer to help their case without being backed up by others.

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    • LingeringRegime
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2007
      • 17089

      #17
      Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

      Yeah, the feds look desperate imo also. The mistress doesn't haven't any credibility in my eyes.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #18
        Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

        Originally posted by wwharton


        I disagree. What is the picture she's painting? Her ex is an arrogant ***. She's probably willing to paint whatever picture they tell her to. I don't see anything with sticking power. He told her he used? Well who is she and why should we believe that. His performance in bed declined. Come on now. I just don't see anything that she can offer to help their case without being backed up by others.
        Well she did say his hm testicles shrunk....

        You may be right but at least she gave testimony of what can be best described as roid rages and him telling her his elbow injury was caused by roids. I'm sure the prosecution will have an expert on physiology take the stand and talk about the very obvious physical changes that can only be achieved by heavy steroid use.
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        • wwharton
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2002
          • 26949

          #19
          Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

          Originally posted by SPTO
          Well she did say his hm testicles shrunk....

          You may be right but at least she gave testimony of what can be best described as roid rages and him telling her his elbow injury was caused by roids. I'm sure the prosecution will have an expert on physiology take the stand and talk about the very obvious physical changes that can only be achieved by heavy steroid use.
          So his ex who he had an ugly break up with told the court that his testicles shrunk and he had trouble getting it up... ok, lol. Seriously, there's nothing there.

          Common traits of roid rage is also common traits of arrogant star athletes and women they feel are beneath them. It's also just he said she said unless she has proof that he threatened to throw her headless body in a ditch or cut out her implants, but even if he did... would you really be surprised to find out an athlete said this to a woman in an argument?

          Like I said, I don't think the man is innocent. And they may very well have others coming to the stand with a bit more meat to work with but this woman gave nothing... and putting her up there to give nothing but things that would be considered embarrassing to a man seems desperate. I just don't see it.

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          • ImTellinTim
            YNWA
            • Sep 2006
            • 33028

            #20
            Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

            Originally posted by wwharton
            I disagree. What is the picture she's painting? Her ex is an arrogant ***. She's probably willing to paint whatever picture they tell her to. I don't see anything with sticking power. He told her he used? Well who is she and why should we believe that. His performance in bed declined. Come on now. I just don't see anything that she can offer to help their case without being backed up by others.
            The picture the Feds are painting is "don't **** with the Feds. We will destroy you in court." Like I said before, they did not appreciate the way he went around and lied (in their opinion) to everyone he talked to. Even if he wins the case, his character is destroyed even further in the court of public opinion.

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            • wwharton
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2002
              • 26949

              #21
              Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

              Originally posted by ImTellinTim
              The picture the Feds are painting is "don't **** with the Feds". We will destroy your character in court.
              Two things we know about Barry Bonds:

              1) whether he gets off or not, his character is forever destroyed

              2) he really doesn't care

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #22
                Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
                Anderson is either...

                A) A die-hard Bonds "fanboy" and is sticking up for his idol.

                or, the most likely scenario

                B) Going to get paid something serious whenever he gets out.

                I just wish I had one "friend" like Anderson.
                Ain't enough money in the world to make me spend more than a year(or even a month)in Jail. Dude is one loyal dude and he's actually gained some respect from me personally.
                #RespectTheCulture

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                • ImTellinTim
                  YNWA
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 33028

                  #23
                  Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                  Originally posted by wwharton
                  Two things we know about Barry Bonds:

                  1) whether he gets off or not, his character is forever destroyed

                  2) he really doesn't care
                  You make a great point there.

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                  • ImTellinTim
                    YNWA
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 33028

                    #24
                    Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Ain't enough money in the world to make me spend more than a year(or even a month)in Jail. Dude is one loyal dude and he's actually gained some respect from me personally.
                    I mean, it's gotta be a lot of money, right? I just shake my head at that guy. Why jail for Barry Bonds? Hell, I wouldn't spend a day in jail for most of my friends if I thought they were wrong. Messing with the Feds? No thank you, sir.

                    EDIT:

                    I just read an article on ESPN and it described the debate over Bell's exaggeration that Barry's testicles shrunk by half. The judge is now going to rule on whether or not the jury will be told to ignore any testimony from her about Barry's testicles. Unbelievable.
                    Last edited by ImTellinTim; 03-29-2011, 10:07 PM.

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                    • Jeffx
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3045

                      #25
                      Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                      Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                      The picture the Feds are painting is "don't **** with the Feds. We will destroy you in court." Like I said before, they did not appreciate the way he went around and lied (in their opinion) to everyone he talked to. Even if he wins the case, his character is destroyed even further in the court of public opinion.
                      Exactly, and we've seen this with other celebrities. The Feds will make an example of your ***.

                      I agree with Professa, I respect Anderson for not snitching. Most of us would sing like a canary(even against our friends) if we were threatened with hard time. Not this cat.

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                      • Scottdau
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 32580

                        #26
                        Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                        Bonds is to egotistic to care.

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                        • OSUFan_88
                          Outback Jesus
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 25642

                          #27
                          Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          I completely trust my doctor who I see twice a year.
                          You are not a professional athlete who is under constant drug testing.
                          Too Old To Game Club

                          Urban Meyer is lol.

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                          • wwharton
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 26949

                            #28
                            Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                            Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                            You are not a professional athlete who is under constant drug testing.
                            Honestly though, neither was Bonds when he was supposed to be juicing. That's the problem... nobody cared about players taking roids back when all these guys were said to have been dirty. That's why I can't even call them cheaters. Guys that get caught today are cheaters. Back then? They were taking advantage of what was available and allowed.

                            And there will be something that's considered ok today that will be banned years from now. In 2021, should we go back to 2011 and find out who was doing it back then so we can burn them at the stake and campaign against them?

                            Guess I got on a soap box there... sorry OSU.

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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42525

                              #29
                              Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                              Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                              You are not a professional athlete who is under constant drug testing.
                              There wasn't any drug testing until 2003, well before he allegedly began taking steroids.
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                              • SPTO
                                binging
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 68046

                                #30
                                Re: The Barry Bonds Trial

                                Originally posted by Blzer
                                There wasn't any drug testing until 2003, well before he allegedly began taking steroids.
                                Er....Didn't he start taking roids around 2000-2001?
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