The Barry Bonds Trial

[EnigmaNemesis]

No, for perjury. He testified to a grand jury that he didn't knowingly take steroids. They are trying to prove that he knew exactly what he was taking. It's a tough thing to prove, really, since he's denied the whole time that he didn't know "the cream" and "the clear" were steroids.

Which is complete bull****, if you ask me.

Personally I think this is a big waste of time and money. When it can be better served elsewhere. But also understand that lying to the grand jury is also a big deal. No matter how hypocritical our justice system can be.

But for one to believe that a man as big (not size but fame and worth) as Barry Bonds, being one of the most prized athletes does NOT know what he puts in his body (which is his money maker), then you are very naive, ignorant, or just plain in denial.

[tvman]

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I'm not so sure about that. I wouldn't doubt that a lot of athletes simply take whatever their personal trainer tells them to take.

[EnigmaNemesis]

I'm not so sure about that. I wouldn't doubt that a lot of athletes simply take whatever their personal trainer tells them to take.

Give me a break man. I am so sure the trainer that "won't open his mouth" was slipping Bonds roid micky's without him knowing.

These guys know what they put in their body. They dont just shut up and take it.

Especially when Bonds is supposedly the only one that "didnt know", yet all others that admitted did know.

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I disagree. I dont think it speaks volumes about our society. It's what you get when you lie to the Federal government. It's against the law and I would assume most people would get in trouble for lying under oath.

I think Bonds lied. You think Bonds lied. Most everyone believes the man lied.

My point is that taxpayer dollars are being WASTED on this trial. They will not be able to *prove* that he lied. Anderson was the man who could have nailed Bonds, but he won't testify.

I believe he should be punished but I think this trial is a waste of time and resources. It won't lead to punishment. Do you believe otherwise bro? If so, I admire the optimism, but I just don't see it.

There are people starving and losing their homes in this country... I just think that our taxpayer dollars could be better used elsewhere.

If it wasn't a burden on the taxpayer, sure, try him. But the bottom line is that Bonds won't lose here. In the court of public opinion, he's done.

That's enough for me. It doesn't mean that I think he shouldn't get punished. I just don't think the punishment will ever come.

[SPTO]

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My point is that taxpayer dollars are being WASTED on this trial. They will not be able to *prove* that he lied. Anderson was the man who could have nailed Bonds, but he won't testify.

First, This is perjury to a federal grand jury. ANYONE who lies to a grand jury like that is going to be charged. Some folks are smart enough to cop a plea and get it over with but Bonds has decided to take it to the ultimate course and thus they're in court.

As for waste of taxpayers money? This is such a tiny drop in the bucket compared to other far more wasteful spending. It's like complaining about having a pimple when you're suffering from cancer of the cyst. Do I think that we should be having this trial? Not really, but Bonds has made his bed and will have to live with the consequences.

[tvman]

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Give me a break man. I am so sure the trainer that "won't open his mouth" was slipping Bonds roid micky's without him knowing.

These guys know what they put in their body. They dont just shut up and take it.

Especially when Bonds is supposedly the only one that "didnt know", yet all others that admitted did know.

Pro athletes hire personal trainers to look after them. While i'm sure they have a pretty good idea what they're taking if the trainer says here is an excellent supplement that will help why should the athlete question someone they supposedly must trust?

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Pro athletes hire personal trainers to look after them. While i'm sure they have a pretty good idea what they're taking if the trainer says here is an excellent supplement that will help why should the athlete question someone they supposedly must trust?

Okay, but now the question becomes, why would a trainer give their client steroids without their knowledge? That makes no sense, either.

I just don't buy it. If a trainer makes a recommendation, I'd think that a player would still research it on some level. After all, it's not the trainer who will necessarily have to serve a lengthy suspension and have their reputation destroyed.

If a player blindly takes a supplement without knowing the consequences, then they deserve whatever comes at them. That kind of recklessness just can't be explained away by "I didn't know."

[EnigmaNemesis]

Your everyday nobody reads labels on drug boxes and foods. I doubt these high prized athletes who know their bodies are their salary, blindly take things without asking.

After the McGwire/Sosa thing, it makes perfect sense that Bonds would want the same limelight. And ask how he can achieve it. Has been reported by many that know and knew him.

Gee my head and feet are getting bigger at 35 years old. Must be some good flaxseed.

His trainer is mum, because he is "taken care of" by buddy Bonds. A blind man can see that.

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Another thing... With the delicate state that the game is in, and the drug testing, and the fact that getting popped for steroids is heavily tarnishing careers, it's absolutely ridiculous to think that any player would blindly take something on a consistent basis without knowing exactly what it is.

There's just no way.

People trying to sell that story should honestly just stop. It's ridiculous.

[ProSkillsBaseball3]

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Don't worry, I am sure he will get out of it.

He'll will because the jury has no idea who he is that's why it took 4 years to get this trial started

[snepp]

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I agree with Professa, I respect Anderson for not snitching. Most of us would sing like a canary(even against our friends) if we were threatened with hard time. Not this cat.

Hell yeah, we should celebrate every scumbag that doesn't snitch on one of their cheating douchebag friends. Anderson's a real role model.

[ImTellinTim]

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As for waste of taxpayers money? This is such a tiny drop in the bucket compared to other far more wasteful spending. It's like complaining about having a pimple when you're suffering from cancer of the cyst. Do I think that we should be having this trial? Not really, but Bonds has made his bed and will have to live with the consequences.

I agree with this. This is a less than miniscule blip on the spending of the Federal government. There are much bigger fish to fry in the argument of bad governmental spending.

[RandyMoss84]

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I agree with this. This is a less than miniscule blip on the spending of the Federal government. There are much bigger fish to fry in the argument of bad governmental spending.

go dogs!!!

[IlliniM1ke]

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this witch hunt is ridiculous

you would think the govt would find something else to waste taxpayers money on....but I digress

Agreed this is ridiculous, if anything blame the owners and Selig for turning a blind eye to it when they obviously had to see something was going on with the jump in numbers, but they didn't care because ultimately it helped bring back fans after the strike and then by the time they wanted to put an end to it things were so far out of control.

Uh...witch hunt?

Oooooookay! I won't get into the govt thing but...I totally disagree with you. Lying to a grand jury is a very big deal.

Yeah perjury is a big deal, its a joke that it came to this in the first place, congress never should have interjected into this. They have more important things to worry about than steroid use in sports, sure Bonds lied but the fact he (and any other pro athlete who has lied under oath) were ever put in that position is ridiculous.

I couldn't stand Bonds towards the end when he was going for the all time record but this is insane.

[travis72]

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While I feel are government has better things to be doing than this trial, I do hope they throw this cheating ******* in prison. While I have lost respect for guys that cheated this great game atleast alot of them admitted it when they got caught. I use to be a huge fan of Roger Clemens but have lost all respect for that man. I sure hope none of these cheaters ever see the HOF.