Best Pitching Rotation Discussion

[brett the jet favre]

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And i find it funny that almost every baseball writer agrees the M's future is very bright but the people sitting around at home, that know nothing about the Mariners except for what they see on ESPN think they know eveything, i know some peoples opions may be wrong, but not every baseball writer can be wrong, and they are obviosly smart, since they get paid and know sports, unlike you people that are sitting at home and think you know eveything.

[TheMatrix31]

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Tone it down a notch, Brett.

Seriously. I skipped from page 4 to page 8 and the same discussion is going.

You have to realize that while the Mariners may have a bright future, right now it's just a future and that nothing has happened yet.

You're running hogwild with prognostications and putting other things down and quite frankly, its absurd.

[Kobalt]

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Is this the same guy that said Pineda will win multiple Cy Young with the Mariners around this time last year?

[brett the jet favre]

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So the Angels won't resign any of those players? So the Mariners are going to retain all their talent, all their prospects will hit their ceiling, they're getting a whopper TV deal, while the Albert will become an average hitter, lose all those players, and none of their prospects like say Cron, Trout or Segura will develop?

Jeez might as well shut the team down.

Im not saying they wont, but i bet they wont be able to offord evey single one, and their system isnt even deep, the Angels that is.

[brett the jet favre]

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Is this the same guy that said Pineda will win multiple Cy Young with the Mariners around this time last year?

No, i believed that Felix would and i still agree with that evey year.

[brett the jet favre]

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Tone it down a notch, Brett.

Seriously. I skipped from page 4 to page 8 and the same discussion is going.

You have to realize that while the Mariners may have a bright future, right now it's just a future and that nothing has happened yet.

You're running hogwild with prognostications and putting other things down and quite frankly, its absurd.

Im arguing to eveyone saying that they dont, they are the ones still arguing, i know that for now the West belongs to the Angels and Rangers, but i believe along with almost every sports writer that will change.

[bkrich83]

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Im not saying they wont, but i bet they wont be able to offord evey single one,.

Why not? Money is really not an issue with that franchise. Never has been.

[brett the jet favre]

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Why not? Money is really not an issue with that franchise. Never has been.

We'll see.

[bkrich83]

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And i find it funny that almost every baseball writer agrees the M's future is very bright

Who can argue with that kind of logic?

Apparently if you don't think the Mariners will win the World Series by 2014 you don't know anything about them.

[brett the jet favre]

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Who can argue with that kind of logic?

Apparently if you don't think the Mariners will win the World Series by 2014 you don't know anything about them.

for gods sake, im saying their future is bright and they will run the West, that is my damn opinion and i have a lot of them the rest about the M's not having a bright future isnt arguable.

[55]

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The Mariners scored a whopping 556 runs in 2011 and an amazing 513 runs in 2010 which was the lowest season total of any MLB team in about 40 years. They've also lost an average of 98 games per year over that span and have finished in last place by a decent margin. Just because they have a few unproven prospects in their farm system (just like 29 other teams) does not mean that they are going to become world beaters any time soon. The fact of the matter is that way more prospects flame out than pan out. Plus, they are trapped in a division with two teams that outclass them in pretty much every way imaginable. Even if they do manage to escape the AL West, there is still the three headed monster in the AL East they will have to get through and that's not going to happen any time soon.

[TheMatrix31]

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Im arguing to eveyone saying that they dont, they are the ones still arguing, i know that for now the West belongs to the Angels and Rangers, but i believe along with almost every sports writer that will change.

You're still arguing too. And quite frankly, I don't blame them for arguing with you. Right now, the points are ridiculous. Who cares about sports writers? If you're pinning your hopes on future successes based on what sports writers think they know, you're in for a world of disappointment. Just look at predictions for any league, any playoffs, any finals, anything over the last God-knows-how-long and you'll see that by and large, the "experts" don't know much more than us.

[TheNumber35]

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The Mariners scored a whopping 556 runs in 2011 and an amazing 513 runs in 2010 which was the lowest season total of any MLB team in about 40 years. They've also lost an average of 98 games per year over that span and have finished in last place by a decent margin. Just because they have a few unproven prospects in their farm system (just like 29 other teams) does not mean that they are going to become world beaters any time soon. The fact of the matter is that way more prospects flame out than pan out. Plus, they are trapped in a division with two teams that outclass them in pretty much every way imaginable. Even if they do manage to escape the AL West, there is still the three headed monster in the AL East they will have to get through and that's not going to happen any time soon.

Don't forget about the AL Central either...I'm scared to death of KC in the next couple years. And Detroit is gonna be right there as well (at least with Verlander at the helm I can hope lol.) And Toronto could make it a 4-headed monster in the East too. Point is, the WS is going to be tough to get to, and when you can't score in the AL...you're in trouble.

[bkrich83]

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for gods sake, im saying their future is bright and they will run the West, that is my damn opinion and i have a lot of them the rest about the M's not having a bright future isnt arguable.

Guaranteeing a WS win by 2014, and saying things like you know for a fact they will be great in the future is more than offering an opinion.

Hell saying them having a bright future is not even arguable, goes beyond simply an opinion.

[brett the jet favre]

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The Mariners scored a whopping 556 runs in 2011 and an amazing 513 runs in 2010 which was the lowest season total of any MLB team in about 40 years. They've also lost an average of 98 games per year over that span and have finished in last place by a decent margin. Just because they have a few unproven prospects in their farm system (just like 29 other teams) does not mean that they are going to become world beaters any time soon. The fact of the matter is that way more prospects flame out than pan out. Plus, they are trapped in a division with two teams that outclass them in pretty much every way imaginable. Even if they do manage to escape the AL West, there is still the three headed monster in the AL East they will have to get through and that's not going to happen any time soon.

obviosuly our offense has gotten better with Ackley, Smoak will hopefully have a full year, Carp will have a full year, and Figgins will be gone most likely, we'll also have a full season from Montero, and we'll see about the "Unproven prospects" go ahead, call me an idiot all you want, but just like baseball writers, our future looks very good, and i believe it.