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  • tbuck
    Rookie
    • Jul 2002
    • 352

    #286
    Re: TWINS

    Don't forget that the Twins won the Central last year after down seasons from Koskie, Hunter, Rivas, Guzman & Radke. Not to mention the loss of Milton and Mays, who had no positive impact on the pennant race. You have to believe that a few of those players are going to play better, and those are KEY guys.

    As for the loss of AJ.....he was our #7 hitter. He hit .300, but that's it. Low HR, Low RBI, good defense.....he's a good catcher, not dead weight at all, but he will not be a major loss, as long as the guys mentioned above play better. We'll have Stewart at leadoff all year, Jaque Jones in a power spot, and hopefull LeCroy as the DH for 400 ABs.

    Our rotation and bullpen are really up in the air. Radke, Santana and Lohse are locked in as starters. Silva and Balfour are my choices for 4 & 5. Silva is a good young arm that has already pitched a few years in the majors. It's time to get him into the rotation. Same with Balfour. He's stretched out as a starter now and he's been a tweener for a little while. I'd like to see them give him a legit shot. Helling can go back to North Dakota, or long relief. I'll be fine either way. I have a hunch that Rincon stays as a long man, and Nakamura gets the right-handed set-up spot. Fultz and Pulido are probably battling for the same roster spot, and Romero is locked in as a LH set-up man. Nathan is the closer, but watch out for Jesse Crain THIS YEAR. If he blows people away in spring training, they may give him a look early. Scouting reports list him as the top minor league bullpen prospect. He's got 3 pitches, which is one more than he needs as a closer. One way or the other, i think he wears a Twins jersey at some point this year. I have faith in Nathan, and i honestly believe we won't skip a beat without Eddie. I think it's Latroy's loss that will sting at times. A lot of "ifs" but it should be fun.

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    • Ckhoss29
      MVP
      • Feb 2003
      • 980

      #287
      Re: TWINS

      Mauer is going to flop this year. I am not saying that he won't be good in the future but I think that he is too young to take over as a full time catcher. He is only 20 and has never played an inning over AA. It kind of reminds me of another can't miss prospect who was a favorite for AL Rookie of the Year Brandon Phillips, and you all saw what happened there. Mauer will flop mark my words.

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      • Ckhoss29
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 980

        #288
        Re: TWINS

        Mauer is going to flop this year. I am not saying that he won't be good in the future but I think that he is too young to take over as a full time catcher. He is only 20 and has never played an inning over AA. It kind of reminds me of another can't miss prospect who was a favorite for AL Rookie of the Year Brandon Phillips, and you all saw what happened there. Mauer will flop mark my words.

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        • Ckhoss29
          MVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 980

          #289
          Re: TWINS

          Mauer is going to flop this year. I am not saying that he won't be good in the future but I think that he is too young to take over as a full time catcher. He is only 20 and has never played an inning over AA. It kind of reminds me of another can't miss prospect who was a favorite for AL Rookie of the Year Brandon Phillips, and you all saw what happened there. Mauer will flop mark my words.

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          • bender_over
            Pro
            • Mar 2003
            • 750

            #290
            Re: TWINS

            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            Ckhoss29 said:
            Mauer is going to flop this year. I am not saying that he won't be good in the future but I think that he is too young to take over as a full time catcher. He is only 20 and has never played an inning over AA. It kind of reminds me of another can't miss prospect who was a favorite for AL Rookie of the Year Brandon Phillips, and you all saw what happened there. Mauer will flop mark my words.

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            I've got to disagree with you here.

            His stats throughout his minor league career.

            2001 - Elizabethton Twins

            <font color="red">Avg. - .400</font>
            AB - 110
            Hits - 44
            Runs - 14
            <font color="red">HR - 0</font>
            <font color="red">RBI - 14</font>
            2B - 6
            3B - 2
            BB - 19
            SO - 10

            2002 - Quad City River Bandits

            <font color="red">Avg. - .302</font>
            AB - 411
            Hits - 124
            Runs - 58
            <font color="red">HR - 4</font>
            <font color="red">RBI - 61</font>
            2B - 23
            3B - 1
            BB - 61
            SO - 42

            2003 - Fort Myers Miracle

            <font color="red">Avg. - .335</font>
            AB - 233
            Hits - 78
            Runs - 25
            <font color="red">HR - 1</font>
            <font color="red">RBI - 44</font>
            2B - 13
            3B - 1
            BB - 24
            SO - 24

            2003 - New Britain Rock Cats

            <font color="red">Avg. - .341</font>
            AB - 276
            Hits - 94
            Runs - 48
            <font color="red">HR - 4</font>
            <font color="red">RBI - 41</font>
            2B - 17
            3B - 1
            BB - 25
            SO - 25

            Totals

            <font color="red">Avg. - .330</font>
            AB - 1030
            Hits - 340
            Runs - 145
            <font color="red">HR - 9</font>
            <font color="red">RBI - 160</font>
            2B - 59
            3B - 5
            BB - 129
            SO - 101
            ************************************************** ***********
            I like his progress. In Mauer's four different minor league stints he hasn't hit below .302 while Phillips has hit above .300 only once in his eight minor league stints. Mauer's .330 career minor league average is 59 points higher than Phillips' .271. As for power, that will come with time. Most players his age haven't developed power yet so I'm not concerned. The only thing I'd like to see improve from his minor league numbers is his BB/SO ratio. But it's still better than Phillips' who has had more K's than walks in every single one of his minor league stints.

            I think Mauer will hit .270-.280 and will be a perennial .300+ hitter thereafter.
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            • bender_over
              Pro
              • Mar 2003
              • 750

              #291
              Re: TWINS

              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              Ckhoss29 said:
              Mauer is going to flop this year. I am not saying that he won't be good in the future but I think that he is too young to take over as a full time catcher. He is only 20 and has never played an inning over AA. It kind of reminds me of another can't miss prospect who was a favorite for AL Rookie of the Year Brandon Phillips, and you all saw what happened there. Mauer will flop mark my words.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              I've got to disagree with you here.

              His stats throughout his minor league career.

              2001 - Elizabethton Twins

              <font color="red">Avg. - .400</font>
              AB - 110
              Hits - 44
              Runs - 14
              <font color="red">HR - 0</font>
              <font color="red">RBI - 14</font>
              2B - 6
              3B - 2
              BB - 19
              SO - 10

              2002 - Quad City River Bandits

              <font color="red">Avg. - .302</font>
              AB - 411
              Hits - 124
              Runs - 58
              <font color="red">HR - 4</font>
              <font color="red">RBI - 61</font>
              2B - 23
              3B - 1
              BB - 61
              SO - 42

              2003 - Fort Myers Miracle

              <font color="red">Avg. - .335</font>
              AB - 233
              Hits - 78
              Runs - 25
              <font color="red">HR - 1</font>
              <font color="red">RBI - 44</font>
              2B - 13
              3B - 1
              BB - 24
              SO - 24

              2003 - New Britain Rock Cats

              <font color="red">Avg. - .341</font>
              AB - 276
              Hits - 94
              Runs - 48
              <font color="red">HR - 4</font>
              <font color="red">RBI - 41</font>
              2B - 17
              3B - 1
              BB - 25
              SO - 25

              Totals

              <font color="red">Avg. - .330</font>
              AB - 1030
              Hits - 340
              Runs - 145
              <font color="red">HR - 9</font>
              <font color="red">RBI - 160</font>
              2B - 59
              3B - 5
              BB - 129
              SO - 101
              ************************************************** ***********
              I like his progress. In Mauer's four different minor league stints he hasn't hit below .302 while Phillips has hit above .300 only once in his eight minor league stints. Mauer's .330 career minor league average is 59 points higher than Phillips' .271. As for power, that will come with time. Most players his age haven't developed power yet so I'm not concerned. The only thing I'd like to see improve from his minor league numbers is his BB/SO ratio. But it's still better than Phillips' who has had more K's than walks in every single one of his minor league stints.

              I think Mauer will hit .270-.280 and will be a perennial .300+ hitter thereafter.
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              • bender_over
                Pro
                • Mar 2003
                • 750

                #292
                Re: TWINS

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                Ckhoss29 said:
                Mauer is going to flop this year. I am not saying that he won't be good in the future but I think that he is too young to take over as a full time catcher. He is only 20 and has never played an inning over AA. It kind of reminds me of another can't miss prospect who was a favorite for AL Rookie of the Year Brandon Phillips, and you all saw what happened there. Mauer will flop mark my words.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                I've got to disagree with you here.

                His stats throughout his minor league career.

                2001 - Elizabethton Twins

                <font color="red">Avg. - .400</font>
                AB - 110
                Hits - 44
                Runs - 14
                <font color="red">HR - 0</font>
                <font color="red">RBI - 14</font>
                2B - 6
                3B - 2
                BB - 19
                SO - 10

                2002 - Quad City River Bandits

                <font color="red">Avg. - .302</font>
                AB - 411
                Hits - 124
                Runs - 58
                <font color="red">HR - 4</font>
                <font color="red">RBI - 61</font>
                2B - 23
                3B - 1
                BB - 61
                SO - 42

                2003 - Fort Myers Miracle

                <font color="red">Avg. - .335</font>
                AB - 233
                Hits - 78
                Runs - 25
                <font color="red">HR - 1</font>
                <font color="red">RBI - 44</font>
                2B - 13
                3B - 1
                BB - 24
                SO - 24

                2003 - New Britain Rock Cats

                <font color="red">Avg. - .341</font>
                AB - 276
                Hits - 94
                Runs - 48
                <font color="red">HR - 4</font>
                <font color="red">RBI - 41</font>
                2B - 17
                3B - 1
                BB - 25
                SO - 25

                Totals

                <font color="red">Avg. - .330</font>
                AB - 1030
                Hits - 340
                Runs - 145
                <font color="red">HR - 9</font>
                <font color="red">RBI - 160</font>
                2B - 59
                3B - 5
                BB - 129
                SO - 101
                ************************************************** ***********
                I like his progress. In Mauer's four different minor league stints he hasn't hit below .302 while Phillips has hit above .300 only once in his eight minor league stints. Mauer's .330 career minor league average is 59 points higher than Phillips' .271. As for power, that will come with time. Most players his age haven't developed power yet so I'm not concerned. The only thing I'd like to see improve from his minor league numbers is his BB/SO ratio. But it's still better than Phillips' who has had more K's than walks in every single one of his minor league stints.

                I think Mauer will hit .270-.280 and will be a perennial .300+ hitter thereafter.
                Minnesota Vikings
                Minnesota Twins
                Chicago Bulls
                UNC Tar Heels

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                • snepp
                  We'll waste him too.
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 10007

                  #293
                  Re: TWINS

                  Joe's BB/SO ratio is excellent and doesn't really require any improvement IMO. I don't think we'll be seeing much power from him for a while, but it's not like AJ was a homerun machine either. He's got an excellent eye at the plate and has show plenty of gap power, all he needs are the AB's. As for this year, I'm going to hold off on any expectations. If he shows enough in spring training to make the major league roster I'll be happy. It'll be fun watching him develop (and god forbid we let him get away in the future).

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                  • snepp
                    We'll waste him too.
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 10007

                    #294
                    Re: TWINS

                    Joe's BB/SO ratio is excellent and doesn't really require any improvement IMO. I don't think we'll be seeing much power from him for a while, but it's not like AJ was a homerun machine either. He's got an excellent eye at the plate and has show plenty of gap power, all he needs are the AB's. As for this year, I'm going to hold off on any expectations. If he shows enough in spring training to make the major league roster I'll be happy. It'll be fun watching him develop (and god forbid we let him get away in the future).

                    Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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                    • snepp
                      We'll waste him too.
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 10007

                      #295
                      Re: TWINS

                      Joe's BB/SO ratio is excellent and doesn't really require any improvement IMO. I don't think we'll be seeing much power from him for a while, but it's not like AJ was a homerun machine either. He's got an excellent eye at the plate and has show plenty of gap power, all he needs are the AB's. As for this year, I'm going to hold off on any expectations. If he shows enough in spring training to make the major league roster I'll be happy. It'll be fun watching him develop (and god forbid we let him get away in the future).

                      Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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                      • bender_over
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 750

                        #296
                        Re: TWINS

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        snepp said:
                        Joe's BB/SO ratio is excellent and doesn't really require any improvement IMO. I don't think we'll be seeing much power from him for a while, but it's not like AJ was a homerun machine either. He's got an excellent eye at the plate and has show plenty of gap power, all he needs are the AB's. As for this year, I'm going to hold off on any expectations. If he shows enough in spring training to make the major league roster I'll be happy. It'll be fun watching him develop (and god forbid we let him get away in the future).



                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        Yeah, I was nitpicking with his BB/SO ratio because there's not much to complain about. That's the only thing I could think that CC Sabathia up here could point out. Plus I wanted to use that to point out Phillips' horrible BB/SO ratio. It's just that he had the same amount of strike outs as walks (49) last year between 'A' and 'AA'. Ideally, with players with low HR totals you want more walks than strike outs, but again that's nitpicking. Also, I'm really not concerned with his lack of power, it'll develop down the road. I think he'll hit .270-.280 this year which would be pretty solid considering he'll hit 7th or 8th in the lineup.
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                        • bender_over
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 750

                          #297
                          Re: TWINS

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          snepp said:
                          Joe's BB/SO ratio is excellent and doesn't really require any improvement IMO. I don't think we'll be seeing much power from him for a while, but it's not like AJ was a homerun machine either. He's got an excellent eye at the plate and has show plenty of gap power, all he needs are the AB's. As for this year, I'm going to hold off on any expectations. If he shows enough in spring training to make the major league roster I'll be happy. It'll be fun watching him develop (and god forbid we let him get away in the future).



                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          Yeah, I was nitpicking with his BB/SO ratio because there's not much to complain about. That's the only thing I could think that CC Sabathia up here could point out. Plus I wanted to use that to point out Phillips' horrible BB/SO ratio. It's just that he had the same amount of strike outs as walks (49) last year between 'A' and 'AA'. Ideally, with players with low HR totals you want more walks than strike outs, but again that's nitpicking. Also, I'm really not concerned with his lack of power, it'll develop down the road. I think he'll hit .270-.280 this year which would be pretty solid considering he'll hit 7th or 8th in the lineup.
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                          • bender_over
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 750

                            #298
                            Re: TWINS

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            snepp said:
                            Joe's BB/SO ratio is excellent and doesn't really require any improvement IMO. I don't think we'll be seeing much power from him for a while, but it's not like AJ was a homerun machine either. He's got an excellent eye at the plate and has show plenty of gap power, all he needs are the AB's. As for this year, I'm going to hold off on any expectations. If he shows enough in spring training to make the major league roster I'll be happy. It'll be fun watching him develop (and god forbid we let him get away in the future).



                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Yeah, I was nitpicking with his BB/SO ratio because there's not much to complain about. That's the only thing I could think that CC Sabathia up here could point out. Plus I wanted to use that to point out Phillips' horrible BB/SO ratio. It's just that he had the same amount of strike outs as walks (49) last year between 'A' and 'AA'. Ideally, with players with low HR totals you want more walks than strike outs, but again that's nitpicking. Also, I'm really not concerned with his lack of power, it'll develop down the road. I think he'll hit .270-.280 this year which would be pretty solid considering he'll hit 7th or 8th in the lineup.
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                            • snepp
                              We'll waste him too.
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 10007

                              #299
                              Re: TWINS

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              bender_over said:
                              Yeah, I was nitpicking with his BB/SO ratio because there's not much to complain about. That's the only thing I could think that CC Sabathia up here could point out. Plus I wanted to use that to point out Phillips' horrible BB/SO ratio. It's just that he had the same amount of strike outs as walks (49) last year between 'A' and 'AA'. Ideally, with players with low HR totals you want more walks than strike outs, but again that's nitpicking. Also, I'm really not concerned with his lack of power, it'll develop down the road. I think he'll hit .270-.280 this year which would be pretty solid considering he'll hit 7th or 8th in the lineup.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              I hear ya. It's not bad thing when all you've got to nitpick about is someone having a 1:1 BB:SO ratio.

                              It'll be interesting to see how well he does against major league pitching. Given that he does have a good eye at the plate and doesn't strike out alot he'll be less likely to run into any serious issues. I don't doubt that he would be able to hit .270+ this year, but I'm going to hold off until after spring training to give my own projection for him.

                              The season can't start soon enough...
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                              • snepp
                                We'll waste him too.
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 10007

                                #300
                                Re: TWINS

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                bender_over said:
                                Yeah, I was nitpicking with his BB/SO ratio because there's not much to complain about. That's the only thing I could think that CC Sabathia up here could point out. Plus I wanted to use that to point out Phillips' horrible BB/SO ratio. It's just that he had the same amount of strike outs as walks (49) last year between 'A' and 'AA'. Ideally, with players with low HR totals you want more walks than strike outs, but again that's nitpicking. Also, I'm really not concerned with his lack of power, it'll develop down the road. I think he'll hit .270-.280 this year which would be pretty solid considering he'll hit 7th or 8th in the lineup.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                I hear ya. It's not bad thing when all you've got to nitpick about is someone having a 1:1 BB:SO ratio.

                                It'll be interesting to see how well he does against major league pitching. Given that he does have a good eye at the plate and doesn't strike out alot he'll be less likely to run into any serious issues. I don't doubt that he would be able to hit .270+ this year, but I'm going to hold off until after spring training to give my own projection for him.

                                The season can't start soon enough...
                                Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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